This video is ironic!
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Posted on September 28, 2007 · Filed Under Lessons
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Interesting that It’s been used so wrong, but I think the confusion came from things like “I hate TV” meanwhile you watch it.
Most Irony I see is done as follows: (are they correcT?)
Somebody tries to do something to you, such as harassing you. They then accuse you of harassing them.
Another form is in a cartoon I saw: Kim Possible
-kim possible gets sick, and tries to guard a top secret device for scientists
-Bad guys steal it, one of them catching the cold from Kim
-Cold spreads throughout the layer, making it difficult to do anything
-After lots of ordeals with this cold virus, Kim finally returns the device to the scientists and asks them what it is for, exactly
-the Scientists state “it cures the common cold” (which could have made everything a whole lot easier)
I like both the new and classic use of ‘ironic’ though Marina is right, it is used incorrectly given any definition. What’s passed off as irony is more bad luck or poor dramatic writing.
The Oxford English dictionary shows both meanings as correct!
How ironic is that?
x for the teacher x
They told me about the misuse of “ironic” in like 6th grade or something, and I have never been able to keep it straight. Frankly, I still think I will not be able to keep it straight because I am not old, lazy, and set in my ways.
But if I were younger, I would remember it always because Marina is so acute.
Like, an angle.
(No, I did not mean angel)
Although, she is sort of angelic too, in a twisted and mischievous sort of way.
But I babble.
Blither is a word too. Someone who I thought of as quite intelligent acted today as if I meant babble when I said blither. I totally meant blither. I mean, who hasn’t heard of a blithering idiot?
No comments from the peanut gallery.
*sigh*
not=now above.
Where’s the edit button???
They way you describe the proper use of the word irony sounds very much like what most people call sarcasm. Could you explain the difference and how the irony became the new sarcasm?
Ok, i am confused.
Now i know the true meaning of irony.
Then what is sarcasm?
Is that just an upgraded version of irony?
wait. is irony just for unfortunate things?
like” oh great ” when the man’s
wife said ” honey i crashed the car. ”
soo… is irony just for bad things?
and sarcasm for better things?
kind of like the opposite?
idk may i request the word Sarcasm. like the origin of it please
Finally someone teaching the American people about irony!
I was watching 2 and a half guy, and the fat lil kid ends some sentence with “ironic, huh?” and I was totally confused.
Basically you guys just have no idea what Irony and Sarcasm means… Learn2Speak!
Here is a great analysis of the ironic issue in the song Ironic from wikipedia.com:
The song’s usage of the word “ironic” attracted attention for what many feel is an improper application of the term. Some situations that Morissette describes in the song are arguably examples of cosmic irony: events that, as the Oxford English Dictionary puts it, appear “as if in mockery of the fitness or rightness of things”, such as “a death row pardon/two minutes too late”. Others appear to be merely unfortunate (not even improbable or coincidental), such as “a black fly/in your Chardonnay” or “A traffic jam/when you’re already late.” If one discounts cosmic irony, however, it is arguable that the song is ironic in and of itself - there is a fundamental incongruity in a song titled “Ironic” which ultimately contains no irony, an interpretation that Morissette herself has supported.
An analysis of the ironic lack of irony in “Ironic” by Irish comedian Ed Byrne includes:
“There’s nothing ironic about being stuck in a traffic jam when you’re late for something. Unless you’re a town planner. If you were a town planner and you were on your way to a seminar of town planners at which you were giving a talk on how you solved the problem of traffic congestion in your area, couldn’t get to it because you were stuck in a traffic jam, that’d be well ironic.”
“Rain on your wedding day is ironic only if marrying a weatherman and he set the date.”
“A no-smoking sign on your cigarette break, that’s inconsiderate office management. A no-smoking sign in a cigarette factory - irony.”
“Ten thousand spoons? How big is your sink, Alanis? What do you need this knife for - to stab the bloke who keeps leaving spoons all over your house?”
The song and video were discussed at length in VH1’s I Love the ’90s. Mo Rocca commented in the broadcast, “Irony is the disparity between what you expect will happen and what does happen. So raining on your wedding day isn’t ironic; it’s just crappy. It would have been ironic if she had lived in a place like Seattle and traveled to the desert of Mexico for a wedding, and it ended up raining there, but not in Seattle. Alanis always gets the last laugh though. We all sit here, saying her song isn’t ironic, but in fact, that’s pretty ironic that she wrote a song called ‘Ironic’ that wasn’t really ironic. Those Canadians are pretty crafty.”
“Ironic” was parodied in an MTV television commercial featuring Donal Logue as a cab-driver with his quadruplicate counterparts spouting similarly un-ironic ideas. (One sample: “It’s like meeting the girl of your dreams and finding out she’s five.”)
The video clip of “Ironic” is mentioned in the novel “Naiv Super” of Norwegian writer Erlend Loe.
Morissette herself does in fact acknowledge that “Ironic” is not filled with ironies and this in itself is what makes it ironic. Additionally, she confirms that she is a self-dubbed “malapropism queen” and that the song was lighthearted and not taken too seriously at the time it was written.
“ “For me the great debate on whether what I was saying in ‘Ironic’ was ironic wasn’t a traumatic debate. I’d always embraced the fact that every once in a while I’d be the malapropism queen. And when Glen and I were writing it, we definitely were not doggedly making sure that everything was technically ironic. It’s a testament to the fact that we didn’t think it was going to be put under the microscope by 30 million people. For me the sweetest moment came in New York when a woman came up to me in a record store and said, ‘So all those things in the ‘Ironic’ aren’t ironic.’ And then she said, ‘And that’s the irony.” I said, ‘Yup.’ To me it’s a real snapshot of a nineteen-year-old’s definition and version of how life worked at the time. All that ‘Ironic’ touches on spawned all my future inquiries into and current understandings of the mysteries of life.”
I really like this one. ITs basicly simple and told me something that I really had no idea about.
Thanks