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Hi Billy
I am not sure if you can see my profile, it says that my beliefs are probably closest to that of the Greek Orthodox church, and the reason is , I have read the early Church Fathers, and agree with them, at least the first and second century Church Fathers, as does the Greek Orthodox Church. The problem is that even the Greek Orthodox would consider me a heretic :neutral: but they would also have to consider one of my favorite Church Fathers a heretic too, as he not only asserts that Jesus is God, he also proves, from scripture, that he is created by the un-begotten God, something people today consider heresy. http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/ecf/001/0010522.htm
But I try to keep my doctrines inline with the Scriptures, (which includes the Apocrypha) rather than inline with what large groups of people impose, and some of my beliefs may align with various other denominations, and some my not. I guess you could call me a Generic Christian :grin: (see Luke 9:49-50)
I do not have a problem with any of the other denominations, in that everyone considers everyone who is not with them a heretic, and this is not how we are to treat others. People get pretty nasty with each other, because of this. And yes some denominations are really doing this to keep their sheep’s money flowing to them alone, others do it to protect their flock, as the Bible teaches us to do, and so religion becomes like a trap in that sense too. Because if one’s group happens to believe something that is not inline with the scriptures, one is stuck with that group and what they teach, unless one doesn’t mind getting persecuted, or shunned. So I am not going to be trapped by groups of people, but only bounded by what the Scriptures say, on a logical basis.
Now, regarding the LAW, if one were to live strictly by it, most would consider a Christian’s belief, that Jesus is God, as Idol worship too, but Christians have tried to fix this problem by saying that there is this kind of God-head, made up of three, with various definitions. For me I just accept the scriptures for what they say, and imply. To me the scriptures clearly say that Jesus is God, but they also say that Jesus has a God and Father, who begot him. The scriptures show that they both share the same names, and attributes but that the begotten God, is in subjection to the un-begotten God. So there is the one and only un-begotten God, and there is the one and only begotten God, and the two are one God, in the same way Adam and Eve are one Adam, (flesh and bone). Read my comment above to alx. Regarding the Holy Spirit, I am not sure how to define it, but I do know the scriptures also say he is God, and is now in subjection to the only begotten God. So now the goal is, for one to go into the LAW and the prophets, and show that this is the case there too, and from what I have seen, so far, it is.
On Eve (Chavvah) , yes she is the mother of all living, but it means lifegiver too. I didn’t know it also meant nurturer , I am using Strong’s from www.e-sword.net Eve is a shadow of “The Life” :idea:

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  • Hi Billy
    Remember in Genesis Eloheem said, let us make man in our image, now take that
    and apply it to John 1:1, I wonder what it would say in Hebrew? Perhaps this is
    a good question for our trusty sexy intelligent Russian teacher :oops: since she
    knows the Greek and can look into the
    Greek Septuagint to
    compare the Greek words that were translated by the 72 elders from Hebrew to
    Greek, she can render the words used for god in John 1:1 ( the first use is θεον
    theh’-on  the second use is
    θεος theh’-os
    )
     into Hebrew. Would it
    say,

    John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with
    Eloheem, and the Word was Eloheem.

    or something like that,
    here is a very good link
    I found, and within it, it says the following:

    There is a third option:  Qualitative.  Qualitative nouns occur
    in sentences like John 1:1c throughout the NT.  They signify neither
    definiteness ("the God"), nor indefiniteness ("a god"), but rather attribute
    all the qualities or attributes of the noun to the subject of the sentence. 
    If "God" is qualitative, here, it means that all the attributes or qualities
    of God – the same God mentioned in the previous clause – belong to the Son.

    One thing I like to do, is make up a verse I call Sean 1:1, (my
    name actually means John in Irish) and use Eloheem’s created image, Adam to show
    the relationship between the Father and the Son.

    Sean 1:1 In the beginning of all mankind was the Woman, and the
    Woman was with Adam (in the singular sense), and the Woman was Adam (in the
    sense that she came out from him, and therefore retained all his qualities).
    (see Gen 5:2)

    I wonder if you’ll be able to see the Greek Font? By the way, in Genesis both
    thehon, and thehos are used for Eloheem, …

  • Yes you can figure those things out, and we know Eloheem is a noun, but sometimes it is plural and at other times it can be singular, also it can be masculine or feminine, and it is not always so easy to know when, unless one assumes. For example in Genesis, in some places upon reading about Adam (which can be the first male, or mankind, or both the male and female) one wonders which meaning is intended. Now there are pronouns that “appear” to help us figure this out, as is seen in Genesis 5:2 both male and female make up Adam, and when we see Adam all alone in Genesis 2 without a wife, we can pretty much say that Adam must refer to the individual male, or when he name’s his wife Eve, we know Adam there refers to the first male. Let’s look at the following, and I’ll put some comments in parentheses to help show what I am talking about

    Genesis 1:26-27 And God (Eloheem must refer to only one of at least two deities from the pronoun “us” as only one can be talking to the other/s) said, Let us make man ( = Adam and refers to both the male and female) in our image, after our likeness: … 27 So God (Eloheem refers to at least two deities from the previous pronoun “us” but might seem to refer to only one of those deities from the following pronoun “his”) created man (Adam, refers to both male and female) in his own image, in the image of God (Eloheem here seems to imply only one of the plural deities because of the pronoun he, but remember at least two deities are creating, so although the pronoun “he” is used, it would not follow if only one were doing the creating) created he him (it would probably be safe to assume that here “him” refers to the male alone before the female came into existence, but doesn’t have to be just the male alone, in light of the plurality of Eloheem in the creation process when a singular pronoun is used); male and female created he them (and this last pronoun “them” illustrates my point that the pronoun “him” may really refer to both the male and female, and is a kind of extrapolation to help us see the dual nature of two individuals acting as a unit).

    Just a little side note: I believe Adam was inspired to give his wife the name Eve, do you know what Eve means?

  • Hi Marina :oops:
    Well, I don’t want to bore you with many compliments, I wish you were my complement, but according to the wise sayings of Sirach, you would break my heart, perhaps in a way you can be in answering some of my questions, yes you can be my teacher, (remember no dudes left behind, lol) on what I am currently doing now. Can you say a little about the Hebrew word, Eloheem which is Strong’s number 430, and is translated as God, gods, and god, in English Bibles, and because of this can be linguistically confusing. Can the word be masculine, can it be feminine, how about both at the same time, can it be plural how about dual, or singular? How can we know when it is what?

Recent comments by rhoadess

  • Sirens
    If you believe Noah had books on the Ark, then the book of Enoch would be that book, you can see a verse which verifies this in 1 Enoch Chapter 87, And according to the book of Jubilees, (another book found in the Dead Sea Scrolls) Enoch was the first among men that are born on earth who learnt writing and knowledge and wisdom. ( see Jubilees 4:17) So if we go into the story about the Angels who forsook their place in heaven, and had sexual relations with the daughters of men, those women were later assigned a task, as where their children. The women become sirens, and some of their children become the demons we see mentioned in the New Testament.

    1 Enoch Chapter 19
    1 And Uriel said to me: ‘Here shall stand the angels who have connected themselves with women, and their spirits assuming many different forms are defiling mankind and shall lead them astray into sacrificing to demons as gods, (here shall they stand,) till the day of the great judgement in 2 which they shall be judged till they are made an end of. And the women also of the angels who 3 went astray shall become sirens.’ And I, Enoch, alone saw the vision, the ends of all things: and no man shall see as I have seen.

    In Genesis it talks about the same event, only much more succinctly.

    Gen 6:1-4 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

    I am sorry to say that this will be my last post here, It has to do with my religious beliefs, my conscious has been making me feel like such a hypocrite, like an idolater, and an adulator (I am currently separated from my wife, see Matthew 5:27-32). I am going to get back to work on a project I started working on a few years back, you all can see it in progress here. From there you can reach my homepage, and read the scriptures of the day, where I try to get through the Bible in about a year (In English of course), which I plan to continue doing, God willing. We (i mean those who follow along) are finishing up the Old Testament from the Greek Septuagint, in chronological order, and will be in the New Testament soon. May God Bless you all with his grace, through his Son Jesus Christ. ciao ciao :neutral:

  • Spitting Image
    :shock:
    prospero811 If you speak that way normally, you should consider running for president, you would keep the media perplexed for days, trying to figure out if you actually answered their question.
    Well here’s a list of the words you used for those who have no clue what it says, yes I had to google them :neutral:

    phrontistery
    n. place for study.

    acrasial Adjective (comparative more acrasial, superlative most acrasial)
    Positive
    acrasial
    sacricolist n 1727 -1727
    devout worshipper
    She was a skeptic, but became a sacricolist after her father’s death.

    Comparative
    more acrasial

    Superlative
    most acrasial

    1. ill-mannered, ill-tempered.

    fallaciloquence n 1656 -1761
    deceitful speech
    Your fallaciloquence, though charming, will not convince the jury to acquit.
    senticous adj 1657 -1657
    prickly; thorny
    He pricked himself on a senticous bush as he searched about for his golf ball.
    gaudiloquent adj 1656 -1727
    speaking joyfully or on joyful matters
    Her gaudiloquent tone was thought excessively perky by the stodgy faculty.
    hirquitalliency n 1652 -1652
    strength of voice
    The wrestler’s hirquitalliency compensated for his lack of strength and talent.
    sesquipedalian
    1 : having many syllables : LONG *sesquipedalian terms*
    2 : given to or characterized by the use of long words *a sesquipedalian television commentator*

    amphigory n.

    A nonsense verse; a rigmarole, with apparent meaning, which on further attention proves to be meaningless. [Written also amphigouri.]
    galimatias n.

    Nonsense; gibberish.

    [French.]
    delenda n. pl.

    [L., fr. delere to destroy.]
    Things to be erased or blotted out.
    growlery
    a retreat for times of ill humor
    This, you must know, is the growlery. When I am out of humour, I come and growl here. — Dickens, Bleak House

  • Spitting Image
    Hi Mrs &, i mean Mrs Hot For Words
    So you mean to say that we can’t google anymore :???: you mean it’s cheating? :shock: How about wiki, can we wiki for info :?: :smile: I hope looking the word up in the Dictionary isn’t cheating, but I did, and there are a few definitions for spit, and one of them is perfect likeness as you said in theory number 3, so I pick theory number three. :grin: but last time I used the dictionary for help I got the wrong answer :roll: btw, you say you have a twin sister? Is she married?
  • & The Philologist formerly known as HotForWords
    Hi teach, and other fellow students
    Well it seems that the not looking and only listening has helped a bit, but we’ll see how long that’ll last. Actually, I am less distracted and can focus more on the lessons. That was a very interesting lesson, about the ampersand, it seems the word “and” must have been used way to much in Rome. What’s funny is that the name for the symbol is longer than the actual reason it was invented (”et” went to “&” to “and” to “ampersand”). Oh well, as long as we know what & means, (et it doesn’t mean the person “&” formally know as Hotforwords) it should all work out.

    For the homework assignment, I must find another monogram, and I feel the $ dollar sign is a good one, although it’s origin is fuzzy. One theory is that the dollar sign is a mixture of the abbr. for the United States i.e. U-S, if we overstrike them the bottom part of the U vanishes into the S. I can’t make the symbol with the two bars, but it can be done with mac OS X fonts and LaTex (go here to find out how). The theory I like though is the one that comes from the Bible.

    And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread. And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died. Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD, and against thee; pray unto the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people. And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live. And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.
    Numbers 21:5-9 KJV

    This verse foreshadowed what Jesus came to do, to conquer death and sin. We can cross reference this with the words of Jesus Christ in the NT, where Jesus reviles to Nicodemus that the serpent on the pole in the Torah actually represented Jesus Christ taking on the curse of sin & death, imposed on mankind by the serpent in the garden of Eden.

    And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
    John 3:14-18 KJV

    Don’t paraphrase me on this, because this is just my theory on it’s meaning, but the serpent represents sinful flesh, which was conquered by God’s Son, who took on sinful flesh by becoming a man, and being tempted in every way mankind is tempted, he never sinned, as our father Adam did. This Son of God, and man, was obedient unto death on the cross. Anyone who trusted in the word of God and looked upon the serpent of brass on the pole was healed of their serpent bite, likewise, anyone trusting in the word of God, whom died for our sins on the cross also will be healed from it’s (the flesh’s) sinful nature.

    So at one time the Germans had a coin called a Thaler, such that one side had the serpent on the pole, and the other side had an image of Jesus Christ on the cross. And so this is where the symbol for the dollar likely came from. (you can see an image of the Thaler here) :neutral:

  • Nonchalant
    Dear Teacher,
    I am So chalant for your calere lessons :oops: And because it goes against my religious morals to be concupiscent I am having a crisis over here :cry: So then the likely solution to my problem would be to only listen to your show, without looking, so that’s what I shall have to try. :roll:

    Now for the homework, a calorie (aka gram-calorie) is a unit of energy, it is equal to 4.19 joules, a joule is just another unit of energy expressed in the metric system equal to the work done by a force of one newton acting through a distance of one meter. Now a newton is a unit of force and force = mass times acceleration. that’s like saying one is expressing both mass and acceleration at the same time. So what’s the mass and what’s the acceleration that make up a newton? the acceleration for a newton is equal to one meter per second squared, and the mass is one kilogram. acceleration is a measure of how the speed of an object is changing at any given moment, even if isn’t actually able to move. everything on the surface of the earth is accelerating at about 9.8 meters per second squared due to gravity. In order for a force to do any work, it must both accelerate and as a result of that acceleration, move a distance from it’s location. So then if an object is being acted on by a force, let’s call it gravity, and it rolls along the surface of an infinite frictionless table that is parallel to the ground, is it doing any work due to gravity? No. Now if it falls off the table to the ground, then Yes, it does work, due to gravity and it will have risen in temperature. So suppose something is sitting in place but increasing in temperature (i.e. kinetic energy), is it doing any work? Yes, some work is being done somewhere to increase it’s energy, it just may not be obvious to the human eye, little molecules are accelerating around in there. btw, another name for work is torque. There is also a unit of measure called a large calorie, it’s pretty much the same idea, only it’s one thousand gram calories. Another way to express a gram-calorie is the amount of energy needed to raise the temperature of one gram of water one degree Celsius. Temperature is a measure of the kinetic energy of a sample of matter. Mass is a measure of how much matter, or stuff, exist in an object. :neutral:

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