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Butterfly answer, plus a little controversy :-)

I give the answer to the butterfly game in this video.

A couple things.  First off… I went with the OED and Wedgwood who pointed out that the Dutch synonym boterschijte suggests that the insect was so named due to the appearance of its excrement.  Now, a cursory search on the net has practically EVERYONE quoting 1 source that states that butterflies don’t excrete, thus “that theory must be incorrect”.  BUT.. I dug a little deeper, and I found that some butterflies DO excrete, especially right after metamorphosis.. and their excrement has a clear, sometimes buttery and sometimes bloody looking appearance.

There is one other theory of a tale that people thought butterflies were witches that stole milk and butter in the night.. but it seemed as if people added the butter bit in after the fact, as I think the original was just milk… so I went with the controversial Wedgwood theory :-)

Am I just trying to “stir up the pot”?  Maybe this is one for the MythBusters!

If you’d like to prove me wrong, please do so in the comments below!  :-)

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  1. igor.kh on July 17th, 2008 7:14 pm

    I think you should use all words at your disposal. BTW, here’s Stephen Pinker on language, including so-called profanities.

  2. bosscelt on June 9th, 2008 5:58 am

    Please stay above the current trend toward vulgarity. There are some many other wonderful words out there. Obscenities are realy not necessary. :wink:

  3. donfelipegonzales on April 27th, 2008 4:20 am

    Dear teacher
    Thank you for the origin of the word butterfly, very interesting indeed!
    About the slang words.
    I think you should use them when it is appropriate for your lesson (even if I can’t stand this fµ°°ing kind of fµ°°ing words!).
    Of course, no need to use them instead of polite and litterate words! My argument is that if you use slang words you allow every body to use them, so the comments will quickly become insulting and disappointing. You address people with the vocabulary they use. If you impose politeness, people will behave!
    Thank you for your attention.
    Amicalement
    Don Felipe

  4. mksm0k3 on April 10th, 2008 3:13 pm

    You can say what ever you want on your videos. The key word is YOUR videos. The internet is all about free speech and until they change that, you can say what you please.

  5. evilleramsfan on April 9th, 2008 10:57 am

    I have an interesting (at least it is for me….) question for all of you. My daughter has a fear of flying insects. I believe it started with her being stung a couple of times by wasps, but she also has a fear of butterflies, moths, ladybugs, etc. So, what would the name of her fear be called?

    Also, I have accused some in the past (not here, of course….) of having their ‘head up their ass’ or as I have seen it, a rectal cranial inversion. So, is RCI, the proper medical term or should it be something else?

    :twisted:

  6. swedehunter on April 6th, 2008 7:05 am

    Well ,better do what the teacher say and do my homework….

    Of course you should use ALL words in the english language, no holding back and no “beeps” neither.

    your dear student Swedehunter

  7. botho on April 6th, 2008 4:27 am

    I am sorry, the explanation is wrong. The myth was that butterflies came around whenever somebody makes butter by stamping (? you know the way to make butter?) milk.
    In German for example “Schmetterling” means Butterfly, and Schmetterling comes from “Schmetten”, the process of making butter. IN the most languages Butterfly has something to do with butter, like the polish, the danish..
    Just in Italian “Farfalle” comes from the way they fly. The origin of “Farfalle” is not! the noodle, but finds access in old-german by “fli-flattera”. Would be nice to prove, but might be to special.
    Wonderful videos, thanky a lot for them!
    Bo

  8. roachmeistercom on April 5th, 2008 9:23 pm

    The funny thing about it is that all these words evolve from just normal words. Words are like metaphors for reality. So if you do not like “shit”, it is because you have associated for a long time with, well, shit. Why should “defecation” be any more acceptable to you?

    People say, “I had to go to the bathroom.” To do what? Read a book? Usually people keep books in there. That is so weird.

    Dung, by any other name, smells as foul.

  9. tcpike on April 5th, 2008 9:02 pm

    A woman who swears is less attractive than one who is profane…
    the same can be said of a man, I guess.

    Guttaral language is not an attractive character trait. Certainly, there are more interesting words than obscene words to learn about.

    pennsyltucky9 replied on April 6th, 2008 1:21 pm:

    Thanks for your input, tcpike!

    My response to Bob (above) wasn’t meant to be either thought-provoking OR an insult (read it again). I DID want to call him on what I saw as a playground-level pecker comparison, however.
    The rest was just foolin’ around with alliteration. I figure, if I don’t have anything nice to say, at least I could try to use some words that’ll make a couple people reach for their dictionaries. :smile:

    I agree with you one hundred percent that there are a lot more interesting words that aren’t “obscene” (whatever that is) than there are “dirty words” out there, but I don’t try to sort ‘em into what’s “good” or “bad” because they’re all just tools we use for communication. Racial slurs, cruelty for its own sake, and poking fun at those with permanent disabilities are a whole different story, however.

    Just for fun, you might look up the word “guttural” and note the difference between guttural languages spoken with emphasis low in the throat (lots of usage of velar sounds, like in French and German, for example) and “gutter language” (like cursing).

    I think you might agree there are probably plenty of nice German-speaking girls who are pretty darn attractive, regardless of their native tongue if’n you catch my drift.

    Thanks for responding! This is a great forum. Happy trails.

    tcpike replied on April 6th, 2008 1:48 pm:

    Thanks for the thoughtful response. Gutter language would have been a better choice of words. I was thinking in terms of harsh.

    These is a great forum. Many interesting people from all over the world exchanging ideas.

  10. xmorpheus3000 on April 5th, 2008 7:12 pm

    I don’t think you should censor yourself. Like you said, curse words and slang are part of the English language, after all. They’re even in the dictionary.

    I was wondering, where does the word “Bling” (sometimes said twice, “Bling Bling”) come from?

    pennsyltucky9 replied on April 6th, 2008 12:13 pm:

    Onomatopoeic for the sound of a cash drawer opening. Back in the 80’s we used to say, “cha—CHINGGG.”

  11. alfauno on April 5th, 2008 1:05 pm

    Ok I was able to see the video late “My Bad”

    but regarding the slang, comming out of you!
    don’t even sound near slang [must be your BEAUTY]

    Also had to mention that you have a beautiful Evil Twin Sister
    (she is also “HotforControversy”)

    Trully Your’s, Me!

  12. weeder14 on April 5th, 2008 12:28 pm

    If slang is part of our everyday language, why not use it? However, if some people are being prudish about it, maybe you should devote some time to looking into where some of these colorful words came from.

  13. jroger on April 5th, 2008 12:19 pm

    How about the word snafu. People say it on tv all the time. I bet they have no idea what they are actually saying. Love your site.

    Marina replied on April 5th, 2008 1:02 pm:

    What a great one jroger, I’m going to record that one next! :smile:

    xbobx replied on April 6th, 2008 7:36 am:

    ERrm not exactly a reply, but How do I post my photo here?

  14. guest on April 5th, 2008 11:57 am

    Marina, wasn’t the term “politically correct” used in your mother land as a tool of oppression prior to its introduction and usage in the U.S.? Perhaps that is worthy of investigation.

  15. xbobx on April 5th, 2008 9:06 am

    Hear Ye! Hear Ye! Hear Ye! In honour of HotForWords, aka Marina, Queen of the Linguistions, The king has proclaimed, TeN days of Merrymaking!

    pennsyltucky9 replied on April 6th, 2008 1:32 pm:

    Too bad I have a midterm coming up!

    But in the future, try to spell my name right at least once. I get to thinkin’ there’s just too many letters in the dang thing.

    Nazdorovye!

  16. xbobx on April 5th, 2008 9:01 am

    I would be most graciously honored if the delightful HotForWords aka Marina would Define and give me the definition, and origin of the word diplomat. Geez, I’ve been so philologised! Oh and prepare for the pun hahahahahahahahahahahaha

    pennsyltucky9 replied on April 5th, 2008 12:00 pm:

    Let me get this straight. You want her to define AND give the definition? What, you think she’s getting paid to do all that work?

    xbobx replied on April 6th, 2008 7:30 am:

    Yes, as matter of fact I do, pennsylucky9. Any activity here, as well as youtube, and her other ventures, including her book all promote her, and also, any participants, including myself.

    There are many opportunities on youtube to turn a profit, I’ve had as few offers directly from youtube, but I’m not sure what to make of them.

    Thank you for your reply,pennyslucky 9, I appreciate it.

  17. gsus on April 5th, 2008 8:45 am

    I would like to know the origin and effect of the word verisimilitude. It’s kind of a big word for its meaning don’t you think? Thanks Doll!

  18. bob rutkas on April 5th, 2008 7:30 am

    How about “Lollygag”

    Example: She’s “lollygagging” about!

    Used to describe an individual moving about, without direction, and/or with much procrastination … I think!

  19. davitsiman on April 5th, 2008 6:36 am

    I was wondering, where do you get your Information from?:)

    Marina replied on April 5th, 2008 6:47 am:

    davitsiman, the Oxford English Dictionary is a primary source that I use. http://www.oed.com

  20. dilepti on April 5th, 2008 6:15 am

    I would like to know the origins of the word RECLUSE. Many definitions include solitude. There is the recluse spider…and then one which mentions seclusion from intercourse? :shock:

    Thank you very much.

  21. 582 on April 5th, 2008 5:36 am

    Hi. Requesting: Divide et impera.
    Thanks, i like you very much. :)

  22. brutishvulgarian on April 5th, 2008 4:21 am

    Hi Marina,

    Thanks for the lessons. I have a word request “masticate”. Is it rude to masticate while your teaching? :wink:

  23. kingcobra72 on April 5th, 2008 4:09 am

    Hello Love I was wondering what the word mamihlapinatapa actually means if anything hope to hear back from you soon oh p.s. you are a smart and hot little lady no offence.

    Keith

  24. charliek on April 5th, 2008 4:04 am

    HI MARINA:

    My Marina says, “Priviet.” We were wondering if you ever had a chance to look up the orgin of the word “jewelry?” Does it have anything to do with the Jewish people?

    Thank you, Marina. Specibo.

    Marina replied on April 5th, 2008 10:37 am:

    charliek, I keep deleting your email address from your posts.. that’s how spammers get your email address by harvesting email addresses from websites. I can email you privately if I need to from your registration, but I would suggest not putting it in posts.. just for your own peace of mind :-)

    Jewelry will probably be a good word as so many people think it comes from the Jewish…

    Nobody give the answer here please!, I’ll make a video! :-)

    aLx replied on April 5th, 2008 10:59 am:

    so, now we know it does not come from the jewish. DUH!

    ;)

  25. BillyB on April 5th, 2008 12:43 am

    As for the word “Butterfly”, trust Marina, who if anybody noticed, looks absolutely stunning in this video, to make it the most controversial word yet. To borrow an expression coined by aLx, \o/ . The word butterfly itself conjures up the image of sweetness & the innocense of youth, at least for me, some may have a phobia, yet unnamed fear of butterflies & I do pity you, honest I’m not laughing. My son’s girlfriend has a fear of clowns & that has a proper phobia name. i don’t digress much do I? Anyways I grew up & hated having to wash my car when the weather was nice because the honeybees & butterflies were the only things crapping on my car. So I started looking at butterflys as my enemy, But because of youthful memories of the sweetness & innocence of God’s beautiful little creature, http://www.howdididoit.com/wp-content/uploads/2007  /10/monarch-butterflies.jpg
    I couldn’t bring myself to exterminate them, so I bought a smaller car, easier to wash, I’m Happier now.
    Its great to see a lot of discussion here brought about by words & their uses, if you find your temper getting up about what some one said, think about the crappy butterflies & how they started out & the beauty of their miraculous metamorphosis.
    http://7art-screensavers.com/screenshots/butterfly  /blue-butterfly.jpg
    I better go now or I’ll start to sound like Lenin (John), I don’t even like Him but I wouldn’t want to start any arguments. Cheers

    aLx replied on April 5th, 2008 9:32 am:

    the big lebowski again:

    “she probably kidnapped herself [...]”
    “that fucking bitch.”
    “it’s all goddamn fake, man. it’s like lenin said, you look for the person who benefit and, uh … uh, you know, uh — ”
    “I’m the walrus?”
    ” — you know, you, uh, uh, you know what I’m trying to say.”
    “I’m the walrus.”
    “that fucking bitch!”
    “oh, yeah.”
    “I’m the walrus.”
    “that’s ex — ”
    “shut the fuck up, donny! v.i. lenin! vladimir iljitsch uljanov!”
    “the fuck is he talking about?”

    well, he wasn’t talking about lennon.

    pennsyltucky9 replied on April 5th, 2008 12:11 pm:

    Great reference!

    One of my favorite films. But I suspect you may be casting the proverbial “pearls before swine” as it were, my friend.

    BTW, did you notice the (assumed inadvertent) capitalization of the male pronoun? Kinda gives a conflicting impression of the true meaning of that last statement, eh?

    Peace.

  26. laceyariel on April 5th, 2008 12:06 am

    Dear Marina,

    My sister and I have a word request, we would really like to know the word origin, [or the wordigin :grin: ]
    Of the word Gargoyle, I think that would be a fun word,
    Thanks, Lacey and Ariel

  27. mikomatt on April 5th, 2008 12:00 am

    Where did LUNATIC come from?
    Does it have anything to do with the moon? :lol:

  28. framinal on April 4th, 2008 11:51 pm

    where did “tad” come from

    as in
    can you move that to the left a tad

  29. el professor on April 4th, 2008 11:49 pm

    If you want to be taken seriously, instead of just being a bimbo in a bikini with a copy of the Oxford English Dictionary, you’ll have to use serious academic language, and that includes eliminating vulgar slang. Any idiot can curse and most of them do. The more intelligent you are, the less you need gutter language to communicate with. If you’re going to offend some people by using the S-word and so on, why not offend others by using racial epithets?

    pennsyltucky9 replied on April 5th, 2008 7:00 pm:

    Others? As in “any idiot?” Thanks, but I’ll pass (you are encouraged to use your imagination what I’ll be passing).

    Open a window! It’s getting really stuffy in here. I must’ve stepped in some kind of sanctimonious anti-excrementarianism or other! How do I GET THIS OFF MY SHOE?

    Vulgar! Whut the hail is that? Some sort of cross between a SEE-gar and a vulva? And why would you be registered, that’s right I said “REGISTURD” to participate in this blog if the best you can do for a comment is to call the teacher “a bimbo?”

    Doesn’t anyone ATOLL know what a “bikini” is?

    Can’t somebody tell me what they mean by the S-word? Nobody?

    Why all the mystery? Oh, I so RUE the day I threw my UNABRIDGED away! The POPE said I wouldn’t need it… ALAS! Alackaday.

    This overwhelming dearth of specificity begs the question “how do bugs process their eliminations?” And speaking of insects, isn’t PUPAE the plural of POOPY? Color me shocked and appalled!

    Unless you have some last-minute racial epithets to impart, please exit via the professorial poopchute. Stop by el clue dispensore on your way out. Take two, they’re free. D minus.

  30. catsaretasty69 on April 4th, 2008 10:27 pm

    Marina, I have a word you might have fun with. In the 20’s young hot girls (such as yourself) were called Flappers. I don;t think that the origin of this word came from the way they used their lips. Could you “investigate” in your most alluring way to find out why hot party girls of the 1920’s were called Flappers? By the way, If I had a teacher like you while I was in school, I would surely still be there, in your class, in the front row, with a large book or coat covering my lap. :roll: :lol: Peace, Adrian

    pennsyltucky9 replied on April 5th, 2008 11:49 am:

    It was one movement pattern in a couple different popular dance styles. You know, bend elbows, flap arms up and down like when doing the “funky chicken.” 23 skiddoo!

    lividemerald replied on April 5th, 2008 12:32 pm:

    For those of us who have seen some classic films from the era (or movies that take place in that era), this answer was obvious. Great job, pennsyltucky9. You must be somewhere between Pennsylvania and Kentucky. Liked your response to Bob, too! Funny and clever!

  31. blackwolf on April 4th, 2008 9:40 pm

    P.S. I know your doppleganger is your trueself, Marina, and that is who I have the hots for!!!!
    luvs

  32. muggins on April 4th, 2008 9:33 pm

    It’s a mystery that merde and excrement are acceptable but shit ain’t. When the context calls for it, why not use the word? Where in the bible does it say not to use the word shit? It’s when cuss words are used to spice up sentences with emphasis, emotion or criticism, that the speaker runs the risk off being gauche. I’d tell the guys at work as much, but they’d just look at me funny and ask me what I fuk’n meant.

    mutarum replied on April 5th, 2008 8:05 am:

    SHIT is my favorite curse, only cause u can do so much wit it, u can eat it, swim in it, pile it high & deep, don’t let SHIT hit the fan, don’t SHIT ur pants neither, u can be SHIT out of LucK, some people think there SHIT dont stink, u can be SHIT for brains, a SHITHEAD or even dumb as SHIT. You can look like SHIT, smell like SHIT, feel like SHIT or taste like SHIT. You can have a clean SHIT, a runny SHIT, a messy SHIT and the perfecf SHIT. Hey homie this some goood SHIT, where’d u get this SHIT from?!? Cold SHITS or even a hot SHIT. However as for me I am all shitted out. Thankyou.

    -MoS

    aLx replied on April 5th, 2008 9:11 am:

    “I like your style, dude.”
    “yeah, well, I dig your style, too, man. got the whole cowboy thing going.”
    “thank you. there’s just one thing, dude.”
    “and what’s that?”
    “do you have to use so many cuss words?”
    “the fuck you talking about?”
    “okay, dude, have it your way. take it easy, dude.”
    “yeah. thanks, man.”

    the big lebowski.

    mutarum replied on April 6th, 2008 8:17 am:

    I rock the Sam Elliot moustache. Or is it mustache?

    mutarum replied on April 6th, 2008 8:45 am:

    moustache is a good word to suggest for a lesson. That’s my suggestion Professor.

    Moustache

  33. mutarum on April 4th, 2008 9:26 pm

    for the RECORD Butterflies are AliVe therefore they PooP. Pooping is a character trait of Life. To be alive means your gonna have to poop. Se la vi

    muggins replied on April 4th, 2008 9:36 pm:

    Snakes and owls don’t crap, they spit up.

    mutarum replied on April 5th, 2008 7:44 am:

    but they still excrete waste Muggins, the owl eats a rat digests it lives and grows on the good stuff and rids itself of the bad whether through its ears its mouth its nose or in our case our bunghole, excretion occurs. An exchange is what it is :smile:

    buzzword replied on April 5th, 2008 9:38 am:

    snakes shit, seen em’ do it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH3FVTdqEw8

    muggins replied on April 5th, 2008 12:31 pm:

    @ buzzword

    I stand corrected about snakes.

    @ mutarum

    “Crapping”, when used to describe a bodily function, has a narrow definition that does not commonly refer to ears, nose or mouth.
    It’s a bm.

    aLx replied on April 5th, 2008 8:50 am:

    plants are alive. never seen a plant take a shit.

    lividemerald replied on April 5th, 2008 12:28 pm:

    They take fertilizer into their roots, don’t they? :mrgreen:

    mutarum replied on April 6th, 2008 8:37 am:

    Plants do excrete waste, through a process called photosynthesis. I’m no biochemist but you guys are jogging my high school memory. It is the chemical process through which very simple sugars are created for the plant to thrive off of. CO2 ( carbon-dioxide ) absorbed in the night. H2O ( water ) absorbed through the roots. You mix the two add some sunshine & love & the by product is simple sugars & O2 ( Oxygen ). They’re not pooping out of a butt but there is a waste being released. Oxygen. More info available @ wikipedia or ur local library or education center.

    I gotta take off I stop back in, in a reset or 2.
    Peace.

    - Suleiman

    aLx replied on April 6th, 2008 8:57 am:

    so you consider breath an excrement too? wtf?

    buzzword replied on April 6th, 2008 9:10 am:

    dude, I’ve met people whose breath should be considered as excrement.

  34. blackwolf on April 4th, 2008 9:20 pm

    YEAH!!!!
    I guessed right!!!! I say to hell with those that want to argue! Besides you can’t always believe what you read on the net. As for the slang, use what ever fuckin’ words you want to. It is your time, effort and FUCKING SHOW. To hell with what they think. Just like a TV or radio, change the fuckin’ channel folks. LOL
    Have a GREAT weekend!!!
    luvs

  35. mutarum on April 4th, 2008 9:17 pm

    Hey Profess, Im looking for a nice and fat dictionary for my office, I was debating between “Oxford” and “Random House”
    what u think?

    Suleiman

  36. backinbowl on April 4th, 2008 9:17 pm

    Dear Marina,

    I absolutely love your lessons! What a great idea…first get everyone’s attention, and then hit them with some education. Wonderful!

    Anyway, the word whose origin I would be interested in learning is “maelstrom”, as in “a large and/or violent whirlpool”. Hopefully I’ll have the good fortune to see this word on one of your delightful videos some day!

    Thank you for all the fun and learning, and good luck with all your endeavors,
    backinbowl

  37. dj32 on April 4th, 2008 9:12 pm

    I got a 720 verbal on my SAT back in the day, I read a hell of a lot of books and still I hear stuff from you I never knew. Keep it up and thanks also you are hotter then any teacher I ever had.

  38. tdwnarrows on April 4th, 2008 8:57 pm

    Great job Marina.Thanks for the lesson.5 stars

  39. labbatt78 on April 4th, 2008 8:38 pm

    I swear I thought it’s 1 but I’m surprised it’s #3. I don’t give a fuck what others think. Use dirty words all you want. Whateva is best for you. :lol:

  40. bobsully on April 4th, 2008 8:08 pm

    Freedom “in” speech. Relish it!

    Bob replied on April 5th, 2008 7:06 am:

    There is so much utter crap spoken and written about freedom.
    Didn’t Marina herself have a quote on this very web site recently to the effect that “a people or nation that values its freedom more than its integrity will soon lose both”? Or are all your memories as short as your peckers?
    Freedom is not the same as compulsion.
    There is no such thing as “freedom of speech” - what we do have is freedom of CHOICE to use whatever form of speech we choose, and the way we choose, as well as what we choose, is what defines each individuals character.

    pennsyltucky9 replied on April 5th, 2008 11:40 am:

    Wow Bob,

    Way to play that “mine’s bigger” card!

    Isn’t it thought-provoking that a well-placed insult can so pave the way for the peremptory promulgation of pontificatory platitudes propounding a pertenacious preponderance of purely patronizing poppycock?

    ‘Nuff said!

    buzzword replied on April 6th, 2008 10:24 am:

    pecker

    noun
    1. obscene terms for penis [syn: cock]
    2. bird with strong claws and a stiff tail adapted for climbing and a hard chisel-like bill for boring into wood for insects [syn: woodpecker]
    3. horny projecting mouth of a bird [syn: beak]

    WordNet® 3.0, © 2006 by Princeton University.

    Bob replied on April 6th, 2008 11:17 am:

    pennsyltucky9,
    It is perhaps a measure of your insecurity that you imagine me to be impuning the size of your manhood or to be bragging about mine; at my age and with a heart which can’t pump up the volume it’s very unlikely that I have much bragging rights over many in here.
    I was, of course, referring to the honourable members’ noses by my use of Buzzword’s third alternative above. :grin:

    I sense a “Yea, right” being loaded into a breach somewhere. :lol:

    pennsyltucky9 replied on April 6th, 2008 2:07 pm:

    Of course, Bob. How stooopid of me…

    My relative insecurity notwithstanding, neither the size of my manhood (nor that of my childhood!) has been impugned as such.

    So once more into the breach, dear friend… As I replied to tcpike below, “I figure, if I don’t have anything nice to say, at least I could try to use some words that’ll make a couple people reach for their dictionaries.”

    I’m like a man wearing a back brace (I stand corrected!).

    But, with all due respect to Buzzword, I’ll take this opportunity to shut my horny projecting mouth.

  41. tcpike on April 4th, 2008 7:56 pm

    I vote for no potty mouth…
    obviously, from one of your recent posts, kids are tuning in.

    pennsyltucky9 replied on April 5th, 2008 2:26 pm:

    Well they’re the ones teaching us the new usages, in case you hadn’t noticed, yo. And potty is either something you say to your 2 year-old or it’s gangsta slang for PARTY in the current pop nomenclature, hello. Big can of worms. Go ahead; crack that one open.

    Once upon a time all the “older generation” wanted to do was to process all the young men (who were ineligible to even VOTE )through their military slaughterhouse in order to keep the ‘babies’ from ‘booming’ and maintain their comfy, secure standard of living. Who had the right to decide? The parents or the kids (victims/casualties/slaves/powder monkeys)?

    If kids can slip thru the parental filters, I say more power to ‘em.

    So if you don’t like it, perhaps you should consider either starting your own forum or moving toward the exit (in an orderly fashion, of course). This blog is about language. Language is language in ALL its forms. Simply turning back the clock won’t stop the cows from coming home at sunset. Welcome to the future.

    And they all lived happily ever after…

    tcpike replied on April 5th, 2008 9:01 pm:

    Come off your mountain… thought-provoking that a well-placed insult. Your response was neither.

    A woman who swears is less attractive than one who is profane…
    the same can be said of a man, I guess.

    Guttaral language is not an attractive character trait. Certainly, there are more interesting words than obscene words to learn about.

    I can understand that the “younger generation” is drawn to things that have been off-limits to them in their youth. They can even get boisterous in their defense of these new and wonderful “rights of passage.” At some point, however, wisdom is acquired.

    buzzword replied on April 6th, 2008 9:49 am:

    tcpike,

    all of your arguments are culturally relative. there are people from all over the world contributing to this forum. realistically U.S. culture is much more prudish in its use of language. but why expect the rest of the world to follow the same cultural norm. taking part in this forum one should expect to see misspellings, foreign languages, slang, new definitions and words, vulgarities, etc. To observe and take part in a forum about language, using the languages of the world is an great opportunity. Even by objecting to certain words or phrases one is further learning about each others languages and concepts. There are always a few risks, such as objectionable language, but well worth the liberty and knowledge.

    tcpike replied on April 6th, 2008 1:52 pm:

    buzzword,

    Thanks for your response. You have an interesting perspective.

  42. joescuba on April 4th, 2008 7:43 pm

    oops I mean :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz:   :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz:

  43. icebreaker on April 4th, 2008 7:42 pm

    I would like to suggest the term - “Parthian Shot”. It has an interesting origin and I think it would make good lesson.

    Also my compliments on your website and YouTube Channel. I know that a great deal of what you do is “tongue-in-cheek” (another great suggestion for a lesson :idea: ), but I also do learn something - which is more then I can say for my acedemic career :lol:

  44. joescuba on April 4th, 2008 7:42 pm

    Im hurt and saddened that you didn’t like my favorite word, syzygy. If it were not for the alignment of heavenly bodies… none of would be here!! :P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P  :P:

  45. liquidsnake417 on April 4th, 2008 7:02 pm

    I wanted to know origin of the word Candid Miss Marina

  46. reger7 on April 4th, 2008 6:59 pm

    Please tell me the origin of the word drizzle. I know it means light steady rain but why? Thank you my Dear Teacher :lol:

  47. reger7 on April 4th, 2008 6:44 pm

    You don’t need too use dirty words. You are so sweet, and I always love your vids. :grin:

    buzzword replied on April 6th, 2008 9:24 am:

    Dirty words: grime, dirt, dust, smut, muck, mud, mire, sludge, slime, ooze, dross, smudge, stain, crud, yuck, grunge, earth, soil, loam, clay, silt, ground.

    aLx replied on April 6th, 2008 9:38 am:

    ya.

    reger7 replied on April 6th, 2008 2:22 pm:

    Funny.

  48. branditothebandito14 on April 4th, 2008 6:41 pm

    i want to know about the word callipygian! :mrgreen:

  49. caribbeanryda on April 4th, 2008 6:31 pm

    first off da wa a good vid..as always marina mi ah fi luv ya vids so keep dem comin :mrgreen:

    second: i dont want no one dissin d way mi ah type on dis….i come from jamaica. it ain na no gangsta talkin ting…its just how i type iight? u ga a problem wid d way mi type den whine about it at home….dont whine at mi down here.

  50. Shawn on April 4th, 2008 6:24 pm

    Hey Marina i know probobly have a lot of words to do and you might not have time for this one, but I’m writing an essay on loneliness and i was wondering if you could posibly find the origin of the word lonely. I checked wikipedia and they said it was first recorded in William Shakespeare’s Coriolanus but it wasnt sourced. I just wanted to make sure that was true

  51. california on April 4th, 2008 5:51 pm

    i am asking for the word {dick}and tits.
    appreciatable marina

  52. lividemerald on April 4th, 2008 5:24 pm

    My username is a word scramble. Just noticed that “aptronym” can be scrambled to read “my patron.”

  53. jrzy on April 4th, 2008 5:08 pm

    Marina,

    I saw a show called “Assume the Position” with Robert Wuhl. http://www.hbo.com/events/rwuhl/

    I think that you’d like it; it was entertaining and educational.

    He claims that the origin of the word “upset” as in - “the winner in an upset” - is due to a horse race in which the “underdog” horse named “Upset” won. Is this true? And what’s an “underdog” anyway? Is there an “overdog?”

    So, I have two words for your review: underdog and upset.

    Thanks,
    jrzy

    Marina replied on April 4th, 2008 5:12 pm:

    jrzy, funny you say that because that horse’s name turned out to be an aptronym. I’m thinking about doing a video on it. :smile:

  54. runawayscott on April 4th, 2008 5:06 pm

    1. Again a great video 2. Interesting answer 3. I believe you have the right and responsibility to use slang words. Slang is just as much and (if you pay attention to most language, which I’m sure you do) even more apart of language than the politically correct, “offical” words.

  55. lividemerald on April 4th, 2008 5:00 pm

    MARINA, I just want to add that we all really appreciate the fact that you participate in these discussions. A few years back, I joined (and subsequently abandoned) William Shatner’s web site, and he almost never posted. His daughter did a few times. Of course, he was, and still is, a very busy man. I hope you do not become so occupied with radio and television that you neglect your HFW viewers. Thank you, thank you, for your wonderful interaction with the fans.

  56. big andrew on April 4th, 2008 4:33 pm

    Hey HFW why does the word Aardvark have two As

    lividemerald replied on April 4th, 2008 4:39 pm:

    Just ask Aaron.

    nighteye replied on April 5th, 2008 3:34 am:

    Well, my guess is that it originates from the Dutch word “Aardvarken” - meaning “earth pig” - Aarde comes from “Aarde” - Earth - which is spelled with two A’s because otherwise it’d be pronounced differently.

    buzzword replied on April 5th, 2008 6:30 pm:

    Aardvark has three “a’s”

  57. biotoxin on April 4th, 2008 4:27 pm

    When my friend first heard you using profanity I looked over to him and his expression could only be described as flabbergasted :shock: and that got me to thinking, where did the word come from?
    Among other words we started thinking about, there were a few that we couldn’t exactly nail down, perhaps you or the community would be so nice as to help us in our venture to find out where, Johnny Knocker came from?
    On a lesser note we can’t be so sure about Jukebox either.

    So I’d like to request flabbergasted, and my friend who enjoys the videos as much but for different reasons, requests Johnny Knocker, and well jukebox is a tossup if anyone would be so kind as to settle the argument.

    Marina replied on April 4th, 2008 4:43 pm:

    Did it already :-) Here is the list of words:
    http://www.hotforwords.com/words

    biotoxin replied on April 5th, 2008 7:01 am:

    Thank you. :mrgreen:
    I’ve been trying to go through the videos, kinda missed that one I guess. I don’t suppose you happened to do a video on johnnyknocker? I managed to find out jukebox coming from juke joint, but thats about it so far.

    pennsyltucky9 replied on April 5th, 2008 5:48 pm:

    I think your reference is to “Tommyknocker” not Johnny knocker. Check it out.

  58. pattyv on April 4th, 2008 4:22 pm

    Marina,

    I’ll take your doppleganger if you don’t want her! :wink:

    Marina replied on April 4th, 2008 4:45 pm:

    Please!

    BillyB replied on April 4th, 2008 11:45 pm:

    Now with one word written repllies it’s hard to get the inflection of your response to pattyv’s request. At first read, I surmised that the request almost disgusted you, like pleeeze,..almost offended. Then on reading it a second time, an hour later. It struck me that you would be pleased to give her up. Just thought it was funny my perception of what was said in your reponse could be so opposite of what you meant. What did you mean? The exclamation point didn’t help! Are you feeling misunderstood? Is this a new theme? Cheers! The Gravatr things cool thanx. the edit thing not. If I put my foot in my mouth I’d appreciate a good mouthwashing.

    aLx replied on April 5th, 2008 8:46 am:

    “please, take her.”

    never thought of your first interpretation.

    lividemerald replied on April 4th, 2008 4:56 pm:

    As for me, I accept no substitutes!!!! (Not even substitute teachers.) :grin:

  59. laneah dutcher on April 4th, 2008 4:14 pm

    WORD REQUEST.WORD REQUEST.WORD REQUEST.

    LoVe YoUr LeSsOnS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Oh yeah…Where was I?…Yes…My request…

    :arrow: MINOR!!!!!!!

    :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:  :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
    How come this word can refer to…
    Under the age of year 18…
    Yet…
    Something of very low importance…
    and at the same time…
    describes a scale, key, chord, or interval…
    But then…
    Oh….I forgot….I’m supossed to be REQUESTING this word…Not INVESTIGATING it.lol….PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE :!:
    :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:  :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:
    :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:
    :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:

    Marina replied on April 4th, 2008 4:46 pm:

    laneah dutcher, you must be a minor with all those smileys! :shock: :grin: :razz: :wink: :cry:

    aLx replied on April 4th, 2008 4:51 pm:

    can you turn them off?

    Marina replied on April 4th, 2008 5:15 pm:

    I like them aLx.. don’t want to be too staid in here!

    laneah dutcher replied on April 4th, 2008 5:40 pm:

    Fine! I’ll stop with the smileys and keep my posts the plain “boring-you out of your witts” posts from now on!Oh…wait…I can’t keep up…Did you call me underage,unimportant,a musical scale,a pitch,a chord, a key, an academic major,or a length of time?See what I mean?!? There are too many definitions for this one word,so many definitions that I just can’t see how that all of these very different words can be related to this same word!

    aLx replied on April 4th, 2008 6:35 pm:

    laneah is a nice name.

    laneah dutcher replied on April 5th, 2008 7:32 am:

    Thanks.I thought so too.I can hardly ever find anyone with the same name as me.That’s why I like it.

    laneah dutcher replied on April 5th, 2008 7:35 am:

    Your name’s Alex?Or is aLx Your initials?

    aLx replied on April 5th, 2008 8:41 am:

    alex, yeah.

    aLx replied on April 5th, 2008 10:35 am:

    actually, I’ve never met anyone that really liked their name. that doesn’t mean the hated it, but, you know …

    lividemerald replied on April 4th, 2008 4:53 pm:

    I was once a minor [sic] and a ‘49er!!!

    aLx replied on April 5th, 2008 6:05 pm:

    anyway, I second laneah’s request. minor. maybe it makes for an interesting story.

    buzzword replied on April 5th, 2008 6:27 pm:

    Why is this minor request getting so much attention?