Salmon/Salmonella

Any relation between Salmon and Salmonella?

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  1. blueskies13 says:

    speaking of fish when i was a teenager i worked on a sport fishing boat out of los angeles when the boat was moving between spots to fish i would drag a lure and catch different types of tuna fillet them & chop into pieces cover with soy and people where eating it in less then ten minuts from pulling it out of the water it was fillet & eaten with out cooking yuk.i had a great time fishing but i will not eat them

  2. tedt says:

    *kiss* *kiss* *kiss* *kiss* *kiss* rate/look.

  3. matalexwolf says:

    Once in Asia after eating some chicken, oh my, mai dee – not good at all. Shall spare the details however felt really unwell for a few days.

    Salmon is tasty. I hear Salmon farms actually put dye into the feed so as to enrich the colour of the fish, which is not good. Eat with ones eyes! Is hard to beat in any case.

    Love Tuna, mayo, onion and sweetcorn on toast, dam the world feels a better place after a few rounds of that. The Thais certainly know how to cook up some of the best seafood, ever. In fact, I would go as far as saying that Thai cooking is the best the world over. Never two dishes ever the same. Becoming a bit of a dab hand at it too. Met some Thai students at Reading Uni who help me with both language and cooking. Pat (hello/ sawadee) showed me some amazing dishes which made my taste buds over loads with delight. Hungry now…..

    Hmmm, must book ticket to Thailand. Promised myself to spend a week in Chang Mai as have reputal cooking classes. In the mean time, I guess The George Cafe will have to do!!

  4. Marina, :!: :mrgreen: :!:
    You are asking about the word “leap”
    Well allow me to shoot for the moon and get mangled and allow my resilence of muscle to reform the bone structure and sping up to normalcy again. Kind of like bungy jumping theoretically speaking of course

    Naturaly speaking the salient is when an animal jumps or leaps

    Saute’ – a french past praticiple(to share) of sauter is (leap)witch is pronounced satire in latin

    Greg :oops:

  5. elpollo says:

    Farm raise even though it helps is not the answer. When they get out of the farm they damage other salmons.

  6. the_prophet says:

    Interesting. Everyone had asked themselves that question once.

  7. okay4now says:

    A huge percent of fish for consumption are now farm raised. Salmon, shrimp (all shell fish)…if it’s wild you’d know by the taste if it’s inexpensive (& in U.S.) it’s farm raised.

    Wild Salmon used to be in every river in California, even the so called L.A. river, and California brown bears would fish them, same bear that’s on the state flag. This was, of course, before Cadillacs & Oldsmobiles took over.

  8. wOOt! The stars are back. Fixed the bug I guess.

    I am going to pretend I was teacher’s pet again because as it happens my first name IS Shane!

    MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA! (It feels so goooood to hear you say it, btw!!)

    -))

  9. elpollo says:

    very nice post, well done

  10. GREG says:

    ??????????teach, when you say ” There you go ” GO? “There you are”. or “There It is”. or “That’s It.” maybe , TA DA, There you GO!

    I never thought about the word : GO
    This is a very useful word.
    GO is a true multitasker.
    There are a hundred usages
    A word worth a look by HFWs

  11. canakar says:

    Hi Marina,

    I reqest word “summer-salt”

  12. annuddermale says:

    continuing the trend i hope after you had your date thePenthouse pet dog-of-a-lesbian who thought you knew Du tch meant something other than “split the bill”, but you didn’t and forgot how much to tip that you didn’t get salmonella poisoning…

    betcha wish the trend would stop, ‘eh?…

    ok…:wink:

  13. Funny that salmonella is in the news again for the tomatoes. Love the channel!

  14. Reinfield says:

    Hi Marina,

    I would like to find out the origin of the word “Jazz”.

    Thanks

  15. GREG says:

    Guys , Think She got any hate mail from Animal superiority groups?

    ie PETA , for saying it’s OK to eat salmon.

    there you go, another………..hey ” rights ” there is a word , the most misunderstood and misused word next to …….lied.

  16. GREG says:

    Teach , You must be a very busy little thing of late. Your absents in the posts is noted. May [ i ] WE ask , whats up?

  17. i wanted to know the origin of these words. you can pick one:
    hostile
    prejudice
    paradox

    thanks HotForWords! :smile:

  18. homidog11 says:

    I request the word “summer-salt”

    -Homidog11

  19. tanathos23 says:

    i’d like to know the origin of the word “booze” commonly used to refer to alcohol

    love your channel

    keep it up :mrgreen:

  20. i want to know about the word PATRIOT

  21. Capman911 says:

    Hey check out this site on salmonella. Just as we were discussing it. Here crops up a case involving tomatoes.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24951023/

    • Hi Mike,

      Well of COURSE I watched “Wild Kingdom,” I mean because who doesn’t? But all that other stuff I said about man-made biological threats compounding the already grave plight of the world’s anadromous fish populations is verifiable. In fact, I do have a little schooling in these matters.

      Try googling ‘genetically modified organism.’ After checking in on the latest ‘frankensalmon’ developments, get a load of what Monsanto, Astra-Zeneca, Con-Agra, and some others have done to perpetuate their corporate stranglehold on the seed stock for the global human population’s food supply from now into the indefinite future. It’s eye-opening, to say the least.

    • Warren says:

      She’s psychic too.

  22. natoreus says:

    Pronounce vs. enunciate When do you use one over the other?

    Thanks,
    Ben

  23. undergradtv says:

    Why Hello Thar!!!

    I’d like to request a word: “Undergrad”

    Thanks!!!

  24. Dear teacher,
    Thank you soooooooooo much for this one! One of my students asked me this question, and I didn’t kow how to answer…..
    Amicalement
    Don Felipe Gonzales amateur de saule

  25. shane what do you mean bey expelled

  26. i would like to request a word. it is transvestite

  27. starlost1957 says:

    :lol: :roll: :wink: :razz: :grin: The word is: Charisma. Where does this word come from?

  28. shane says:

    Yes! Finally the teacher’s pet!

    For a while there I thought maybe I had been expelled and didn’t know it. :)

  29. nikki-ellis says:

    Hey,
    I would just like to request a word :]]
    It’s : Syzygy
    Rather strange word meaning, alignment of 3 celestial bodies in a straight line. Was told it by my tutor at uni and wanted to know the origin.
    Many thanks
    Nikki.
    Also love the lesson very good :]
    x

    • HEY
      I actually owned a company in the UK called Syzygy Products Ltd and researched the meaning of this bizzare word extensively before forming the company.
      I don’t strictly agree with your meaning though. I would say that it is the gravitational balance that keeps these celestial bodies that keeps these 2 or more items in harmony. I don’t agree with the straight line theory, as most of the celestial bodies orbit, and the line is one of the many dimensional gravitational plains that keep the balance together.

      Anyway the origin of the word was in 1656 from the Greek word Syzigia (yoke, pair, union of two, harmonious conjunction) and refers to the 3 harmonious components of an egg originally, namely the yoke suspended in the centre of the albumen within the shell.
      Formed from the 2 ancient words Syn (together) Zygon (yoke).
      Obviously Astronomy put a new slant to the meaning later, but the basic theory is the same

      • nikki-ellis says:

        Thanks for the Quick reply :]]
        Now i no more about the word.
        But I still believe my meaning to be correct as in Astronomy. an alignment of three celestial objects, as the sun, the earth, and either the moon or a planet: Syzygy in the sun-earth-moon system occurs at the time of full moon and new moon.

        But that is when the pronunciation is siz-i-jee (spelt frenetically).
        Where as when the Pronunciation is sĭz’ə-jē (spelt frenetically) means your gravitational orbit theory.. So maybe they are both correct.

        But this was my tutors definition:

        syzygy

        Noun
        The straight line configuration of 3 celestial bodies (as the sun and earth and moon) in a gravitational system.

        But yes anyway thanks for the reply and now i no more about the word :]]

        Many Thanks
        Nikki
        x

    • You are very welcome Nikki. That is what I remember that I read when I found the word 10 years ago in a dictionary and decided to adopt it as a company name, and I am not too bad at etymology but don’t assume that I am right, as this perfection is more Marina’s domain as we all know.

      You have me wondering now…my memory is failing…OED Oxford English Dictionary is the ultimate source and doesn’t list it online despite me finding it in the same paper version 10 years ago.
      Your theory about both being right is very polite and definately makes sense, I need to visit a library or find my old 70,000 word OED . You really have me going now…. :lol:

    • PS Although the gravity holds everything together it has no relevence whatsover to the word itself of course. Although it was originally from egg yokes the balance however appears to be on one plain between 2 or 3 bodies and therefore on a straight line disproving my theory that it is on one all dimensional plains as a general harmony.

      Well done I say

      Please tell me Nikki that you are a girl because we need more girls to prove my theory that we are not all a load of perverts that only watch to get an eye full. All the Nikki’s in the UK are girls and males are Nicky.

      Talking about eyeful I found a very descriptive meaning on
      http://www.answers.com/topic/syzygy?cat=technology

      Eeeh they never had the internet 10 years ago sheeesh… :roll:
      I also found a source to reinforce my origin memory which howver spot on.
      http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=syzygy&searchmode=none

      Please join the forum more for some eloquent fun with a bunch of lunatics and punoholics.

      Regards Markie

      • Syzyzy Syjojy …….oh bugger it sausages I have hod chew many dwinkz.
        Little Hamstosh cant hold their liquor

        I went on my Hamster’s Imaginary English Dictionary
        Syzygy (n) (adj) The alignment of three morning nutritious bodies on a plate in a charming smiley face. Usually comprised of 2 eggs, a rasher of bacon and a sausage.

        Love Tig

      • nikki-ellis says:

        Hey,
        Thanks for replying ever so quickly.
        Is strange how many meanings i can find for the word yet there is no one which holds more ground than the other, still i am sticking with the theory that we are both correct as words can have more than one meaning.

        And to answer your question i am a Guy not a girl i am afraid, Nikki tends to be female within the UK but my full name is Nicholas and i am known as Nikki as my hero is Nikki Sixx (Bass player for Motley Crue) and people started calling me Nikki due to my style of dress and such..
        I shall Join the forum more often, sounds good.

        Many thanks.
        Nikki
        x

  30. aviadra says:

    Hi marina, I’d like to request the word apache.
    Sense I am “hot for tech” I’ve came across the apache web server program several times, and I know it’s named after an Indian tribe.
    There is also a helicopter model with the same name…

    I’d like to know what the significance/origin of the name is

    u can check my movies at http://www.youtube.com/hotfortech
    (And yes I was inspired by you, when I name and opened my YouTube account :smile: )

  31. sniperskaya says:

    Marina, I hate to break the news to you, but salmon is going to get a LOT more expensive. I think Ella’s prices are still the same… :roll:

    Salmon Fishing Banned Along U.S. West Coast
    Donna Gordon Blankinship in Seatac, Washington
    Associated Press
    April 11, 2008

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/04/080411-AP-disappearin.html

    • HotForWords says:

      sniperskaya, I read that as well.. but my understanding is that most of the Salmon eaten is of the farmed kind anyway.. so it may not have as detrimental an effect on price some people think.. but who knows?

      • aLx says:

        p11!

        proofread this!

      • sniperskaya says:

        Marina, it could be time to lock up the lox! Or maybe not…
        http://www.fishfarmer-magazine.com/news/fullstory.php/aid/1658/Seafood_bank_says_salmon_prices_continuing_to_fall.html

        Улучшайте для того чтобы остать с икрой

      • scotthorn says:

        Marina, Look into what salmon farming has and is doing to our native wild salmon population.Farm raised has no where near the goodies or flavor for you that wild salmon does[they feed them pellet type food].Patagonia’s catalog had a great article on it several years back.King in the spring and summer is the best tasting of all!
        All the best Teacher, Scotthorn

      • Genetically-Modified salmon for farming are generally much faster-growing and quickly grow to an enormous size.

        Scotthorn aptly points out how farmed salmon also lack flavor and color, so coloring is often added to make them look real. They pose a serious threat to native populations if (WHEN) they get loose because female fish tend to select mates based upon large size, and the GM salmon are easily twice the size of their naturally-occurring competitors so their recent genetic modifications will soon infect the entire gene pool. One of the more recent modifications will allow them to breed in SALT WATER instead of heading up freshwater streams to spawn as they always have.

        When these get out into the biosphere, (because of the aforementioned size differential and the competitive advantage it brings to breeding) it will only be a matter of time before the salmon stop running upstream to breed. A massive collapse of many other animal populations which rely on the annual salmon run will follow: eagle, bear, otter, mink, and hundreds of other species reliant on the flood of nutrients brought up into the headwaters by the mating salmon will perish, falling like dominoes.

        BTW, “frankensalmon” have escaped into Norwegian waters so we will soon see the ramifications of this genetic manipulation in the world’s oceans as the new giants outbreed the smaller, naturally-occurring males. Brace for impact.

      • GREG says:

        Oh hell guys the Earth is get ready to go back to the Dynos. Man is a complete flop. We started out on the top of the food chain, and now We are sorry for just being at all. ie It Mans fault for every thing bad, but all the good is ……….lies. ok I;ll stop.

      • Haha! roadrunrnch,

        I could only wish you were right about going back to the dinosaurs: I believe (permit me to wildly conjecture here) that the next “geologic layer,” as it were, that will will be laid down by an animal (as opposed to a plant community) species will be that of the social insects. We’re talkin’ the ants, wasps, and bees here. In my view, they are most likely to be the next “mammal” because we mammals are basically the next “dinosaurs” if we don’t somehow manage to grab the wheel and take our foot off the accelerator.

        I think the social insects have the best chance of surviving the major species die-offs to come because they are small, omnivorous, guided by a unified will to succeed as a group, fear nothing, and can operate underground for indefinite periods. In these ways they are similar to the original tiny mammals who lived during the last days of the dinosaurs, some 65MYago), plus, they have a short breeding/gestation period and so generations pass by quickly, not like us humans with our 15-30-year generations. The benefit of the short gestation period is that if climatic or other conditions change rapidly, genetic traits for variations in size or characteristics will begin to naturally “select” the next round of survivors, based upon whether the characteristics they have are conducive to, or contrary to survival under the new conditions. It is also important to add that mutations that occur which help them to survive will be more quickly absorbed into the gene pool, so the end result is that they have a better chance of evolving toward a form most suited to their immediate environment. Those that lack the latest and coolest adaptations will decline and eventually disappear. And the faster your species can adapt to change, the better off you’ll be.

        Bottom line, time to ease up on the throttle and grab the wheel before it’s over the cliff we go. I’m gonna start thinking about raisin’ some chickens to help keep up a fresh layer o’ poop on the garden.

        Peace.

      • GREG says:

        Insect would rule the world if not for the lack of leadership. They are content with maintaining the status quote. By not standing out and keeping the playing field level, ie( no winners so no losers.) they are happy just to serve the QUEEN. There are some of Us like this, For extra credit, Can you name the forms of Government that use these ideals?

      • Ah, but there is where you are incorrect. Leadership is something the ants, bees, and wasps do have, and it’s programmed in on an instinctual level. It’s built-in instead of coercive or greed-driven like ours. Remember, I’m talking about the social insects here, not just any old insects. When we’re gone, they’ll still be tirelessly communicating together and cooperating to achieve common goals. And the underlying scenario is that the mammals and large land animals would have already long since died out, so what’s left? Any guesses?

      • GREG says:

        INCORRECT maybe, imprecise yes. sorry. What I should have said; The leadership is not intent on ruling the world. Their leadership’s intent is to care for it’s young. Some ants do conquer others, but for food or slaves. Not world supremacy. More likely Bacteria will end up being left in the end game.. Too start again, again, etc—–>>>inf There are hours of back and forth argument, but in the end Humans intent to destroy them selves is not common in other species. except Fire?

      • Wow, some good interaction here, Roadrunnerranch. Thanks!

        I’m just speculating though. You are correct in pointing out that bacteria will be a strong contender, always was, and will continue to be. And it is true that self-awareness (which eventually leads to oppression of other species, as in animal husbandry and agriculture) and eventual aspiration toward world domination is a trait unique to humans. Excellent observations! 50 million years after the mammals are extinct, who knows how well the social insects will have adapted? I just think they’re most likely to predominate because they have already developed excellent survival strategies of organization, communication and leadership hierarchy. Can’t really think of any other critters that come close, though I’m interested to hear more peoples’ impressions. I’m not sure what you mean about fire…

      • annuddermale says:

        there’s an old ecological dogma that given enough time and enough food, a population will pollute its environment beyond the carrying capacity of the environment…

        aren’t we all glad to know that science has this figured out already?…

        now if we could only reach the masses…

        oh, wait…maybe the price of gas will help them understand… :shock:

      • Gas is just what we feed our toys. Wait ’til cars are a memory and the price of food goes the same way! Maybe then we’ll start to see some humans reach over to turn off the alarm clock.

  32. hello hot for words i would like to ask where the word confused comes from and its proper origin

  33. Hey TongueTwisler here :grin:
    Dear Marina, i was just wondering if you could find out why regular soldiers in the army are known at privates :?: ? :?:

    Hope to hear a reply from you soon.
    Kind regards TongueTwisler :cool:

  34. labbatt78 says:

    nope. Salmon and Salmonella are not a match. They’re both different

    • BillyB says:

      Good Hockey game tonight… or should I say games, almost two complete games in one night. O/T Pittsburgh still alive 37 seconds away from elimination, who is “Maxime Talbot” anyways? Not very often you see the goalie pulled & team facing elimination survive. Hollywood can’t write this stuff. The Pittsburgh lottery winning # came up 7171, “Malkins’” # doubled & detroit scoring an own goal… Next game in pitt… must see now.
      On a heavy note… Vancouver Canucks, all of Hockey & a small town of 3000 laid to rest a hero & a bright young star today. Luc Bourdon gone so soon, but will not soon be forgotton. :sad: RIP Luc

      • labbatt78 says:

        I know, that was very sad. :sad: yep, I saw the game winner. That high stick penalty definetly help the pens. Detroit gave it away. I felt bad for Mark Prior. His season ended again with a shoulder injury. He might as well retire. Did you check out Ozzie Guillen’s outburst after losing to the rays? I say Ozzie is a psycho.

    • BillyB says:

      Yeah not everyone loves a phsyco, but the media eats it up, almost promotes it, stirs it up , they know Ozzie can’t keep from running off at the mouth. Get it on video… news at 11.

  35. Since we are discussing diseases I would like to request “Gonorrhea”; although just the orgin please. Unless…well…never mind.
    It’s literal meaning is interesting. This could segway nicely to “the clap”; where the hell did that come from and what exactly is clapping? Another one I don’t get when looking at the orgin is “Chlamidia”. Hmm

  36. GREG says:

    Teach, extra credit question. Is there a plural form for solipsist .?

  37. John says:

    You were too short on the body language and too long on the speaking, no offense taken.

  38. John says:

    Maia Marina, I must admit i am mystfried on how to answer this perhaps another lesson along these same lines is appropriate and called for?

  39. PageDoll says:

    Marina, Nitey-nite my little vanilla cupcake with milk chocolate frosting and rainbow sprinkles :smile:

  40. shtuppin8 says:

    Decolletage, because you have such a lovely one :lol:

  41. shtuppin8 says:

    etymology: of insult – to leap upon, of resilience – leap back, saute – simply to leap inna da pan – da fryin pan whenna you flip it up

  42. b says:

    Hi Marina,

    ” I don’t know if you knew this but…”

    The word salmon comes from a lady named Ella Salmonbarfburgerberg. Apparently, she found a fish in her bra when she fell into a speedy creek. She took the stiletto heel of one of her “fishin’ shoes” and poked the thing into submission. Later, she skinned and deboned the dam thing looking for her lost mood ring. In a bad mood and left with only mushed fish meat (and stinky fingers), she squeezed it into a quasi-snowball and threw it at her “old man” known as Billy-Bob Salmonbarfburgerberg. He replied ” OK, enough is enough Miss Salmon-Ella. You make me sick. There should be a disease named after you!”

    I don’t know how it got from this story and into the dictionary but it sounds either a bit fishy or just another one of those “big fish tales!?… hmmm?

    Your trusty fan in The Great White North.
    :arrow: :roll: :!: :?:

    • Warren says:

      On the old TV show- “MASH” , one episode had everyone sick from eating some bad turkey. The Colonel walked in and talked to this “southern” guy named “Rizzo” and said, “bad news Rizzo, salmonella is in the camp. Rizzo heard “Sam and Ella” and replied; “Oh no, who is they”?

      • Bob says:

        Oh! Oh! Reeealy BAD news.
        Warren used the bad word “Bad” about bad fish, bad diction, bad hearing and bad grammar.
        I think we’re in for another deep blue.

  43. ibm6789 says:

    Was Daniel’s wifes name Ella? :lol:

  44. GREG says:

    are you seeing quirky and mysterious ? more like a sciolistic attempt to curry favor with Teacher.

  45. runawayscott says:

    By the way, I’ve noticed alot of people who post comments say they were or are in the military. Just something curious I noticed.

  46. augie says:

    well done sweetheart i had salmon posion once not tht fun while i waz in tha military lov Augie

  47. Hello Marina, I am a new member.

    Where does the word “Sleazy” come from? or like when someone calls somebody a “sleaz-bag” what the hell is a sleaz and where does it come from?

  48. techlobyte says:

    Salmon are salty
    salt was used as salary back in the B.C.
    so is that to say Solomon’s Mine
    was a river, lake, or sea with fish in it??
    Food might have been more important
    than jewelry back then

    p.s. I’ve one to add
    saltation, the movement of sand in a dune is literraly a leaping

  49. billyinc1 says:

    Thanks for enlightening us Marina. :wink:

  50. martin5 says:

    Salmon : 1205, from O.Fr. salmun, from L. salmonem (nom. salmo) “a salmon,” possibly originally “leaper,” from salire “to leap,” though some dismiss this as folk etymology. Another theory traces it to Celtic. Replaced O.E. læx, from PIE *lax, the more usual word for the fish (see lox).

    Resilience: 1626, from L. resiliens, prp. of resilire “to rebound, recoil,” from re- “back” + salire “to jump, leap” (see salient). Cf. result.

    Salient: 1562, “leaping,” a heraldic term, from L. salientem (nom. saliens), prp. of salire “to leap,” from PIE base *sel- “to jump” (cf. Gk. hallesthai “to leap,” M.Ir. saltraim “I trample,” and probably Skt. ucchalati “rises quickly”). The meaning “pointing outward” (preserved in military usage) is from 1687; that of “prominent, striking” first recorded 1840, from salient point (1672), which refers to the heart of an embryo, which seems to leap, and translates L. punctum saliens, going back to Aristotle’s writings. Hence, the “starting point” of anything.

    Sauté: 1813, from Fr. sauté, lit. “jumped, bounced” (in reference to tossing while cooking), pp. of sauter “to jump,” from L. saltare “to hop, dance,” freq. of salire “to leap” (see salient).

    Insult: c.1570, “triumph over in an arrogant way,” from L. insultare “to assail, to leap upon” (already used by Cicero in sense of “insult, scoff at, revile”), freq. of insilire “leap at or upon,” from in- “on, at” + salire “to leap” (see salient). Sense of “to verbally abuse, affront, assail with disrespect” is from 1620. The noun is recorded 1603 in the sense of “attack;” 1671 as “an act of insulting.” To add insult to injury translates L. injuriæ contumeliam addere.

    They’re all related to leap like you said and it comes from the fact that the salmon jump off the water and returns to the river to reproduce. So why, salire, resilience, salient, insult and sauté are related to “to leap” I think what I found about will tell you a lot better than me! And insult for me was the most etymo-instresting word haha!

    So what’s my score?? :P

  51. spinkr says:

    Hej Marina! Do you know where “cat got your tongue” came from :-? Hej da

  52. micheldiego says:

    For those of you still interested in Salmon or Salmonella:

    <a href=”http://“>

    :grin:

  53. errin says:

    This lesson was both salacious and bodacious. It leapt out at me as something fishy… which it was. I just wish that the guy that discovered Salmonella was named Dr. Barbar, because then it would be known as Barbarella. :roll: Might make it easier to stomach that way. :???:

    Interesting word request this lesson was based on. My only complaint about this lesson was that the salmon Marina was talking to didn’t twitter like all the other animals she co-mingles with. At least it said ‘Huh?’ lol

  54. suphadupha says:

    dear marina,
    could u tell me the meaning of a word, shithead :?: :shock: :lol:

  55. OK – read everything here, up to speed.
    roadrunmch is being quirky and mysterious
    with his posts. Thanks, dude. too tired to do
    them myself.

    I missed insult on the list so I’m down one? :roll:
    Waa. Leave it. Brain cramps – ow.

  56. Salmon is a good fishy – yum :grin:
    My favorites are talapia and dolphin. :lol:
    Salmon don’t make it to Florida,
    can’t catch ‘em here :sad:
    Farm bred salmon sucks!
    Tastes like Purina fish chow.

    ok – lessee…

    resilience… hmmmm…
    a person who bounces back from
    adversity is said to be resilient.
    therefore, bounce=leap – don’t ask me how!

    salient:…
    a verb – something that stands apart from
    the rest, no – not that definition… hmmmm…
    Bellagio’s fountains are said to be salient,
    so I guess water is leaping upward – that works

    Saute: that’s a gimme
    saute pan, olive oil, fishy
    when you flip the fishy,
    the fishy “leaps” into the air

    Best I got without cheating
    Too tired to think hard, right now.

    Now, off to read what others have posted
    ciao

  57. bad squirrel says:

    Dear Marina,

    What is the origin of the expression “wet behind the ears?”

    Bad Squirrel :wink:

  58. zimmy says:

    I have a word request for you marina! ANAMORPHOSIS. This word has always peaked my interest due to the meaning of it. Images that look normal unless looked at a curve have always fascinated me. Optical illusions always seemed fun to me as a child, and I’ve never been able to produce one myself. So please, accept this word request. If not, keep up the awesome videos. Your work is amazing. :)

  59. latexgirlshd says:

    I’d love for HOT FOR WORDS to investigate the origin of the word ‘catsuit’ I mean it sounds obvious but why name a tight fitting suit after a cat?

  60. sammy boy says:

    :wink: Hi my full first name is samuel and I notested that many other culthers or religins will have different ways to pronounce the name Sam.I just thought that might be an interesting show.Antway I just wanted to say I know this women named gina and she said we wher like kindred spirits and you remind me of her.I just think your awesome and would love to be teachers pet! Love Sammy G

  61. okay4now says:

    ouch! Too much homework 4 now, but I did want add that everyone has had salmonella infections at one time or another, just really low grade. It’s when its served in high doses the immune system doesn’t fight it fast enough = problem. God a little time off and I’m smart as a whip.

    No, but the restaurant food stuff I’ve got covered pretty well. :wink:

    • dvdpage says:

      I got food poisioning on my honeymoon at a fancy place overlooking the ocean. I had swondfish. By the time I was trying to make it to Lake Tahoe I was seeing stars at Sacramento (about halfway) and we took a room at a hotel. I think I nearly died that night. I don’t know what
      poision it was but it sure was bad news. I leaped to the tiolet so it must have been salmonilla. cheers.

      • Warren says:

        dvdpage,
        Same here. My wife at the time and were in Bar harbor, Maine and I went local. Ate everything that “they” ate and ended up in the emergency room. I was sick for three days. Those “steamers” should come with a warning label.

      • Bob says:

        That’s a coincidence. I got typhoid fever, which is a form of salmonella, on my honeymoon.
        The infection even got into my heart muscle giving me the symptoms of a heart attack, and I’ve been having palpitations and a racing heartbeat ever since.
        Of course, watching all these videos of Marina doesn’t help, but what a way to go. :grin:

      • Hey I ate swordfish and had stabbing pain in my stomach for days

  62. sniperskaya says:

    Marina, just a quick question before I go to the homework if I may- are your eyes naturally that blue, or do you wear colored contacts? I see why you go for blue and yellow color combos so much with your blue eyes and blond hair. It works.

  63. sniperskaya says:

    Don’t ever buy salmon from a fishmonger named Ella.

  64. bigjgmac says:

    This is more of a proper name, but I would still be interested in the derivation of Methistopheles. Love the site – it’s educational and very entertaining indeed.

    • Warren says:

      bigjgmac,
      did you mean: Mephistopheles?
      If so it’s from the book “Faust”

      • Bob says:

        Don’t worry, Warren, it wasn’t anything you did.
        I was referring to a saga which has been going on between Prospero and the Buzzword/aLx axis about the use of the word “bad” in the phrase “bad grammar”

      • Bob says:

        Regarding your question about the word “Scotchman”, the Oxford English Dictionary gives both “Scotchman” and “Scotsman” as meaning a man of Scottish nationality, but most Scotsmen seem to regard “Scotchman” in the same class as the word “Nigger”.
        I always remember a Scottish Chief Petty Officer in the Navy telling someone who called him a “Scotchman”, “Laddie, a “Scotchman” is a metal plate on the deck of a ship to prevent the anchor chain from chaffing a hole in it. I am a Scotsman.”
        :roll:

      • Bob says:

        Warren, you have my admiration that you ploughed through the “bad grammar” thread all in one go; I found it quite heavy going even when I was following it more or less in real time. Very interesting though.
        The thing about some comments having a reply button and others not is because Marina has limited replies to two levels deep, i.e. you can reply to a comment and to a reply to a comment, but not to a reply ro a reply, if you follow.
        The reason is that there is only a narrow frame for the comments to fit into, so each successive reply gets narrower and longer. If there were too many levels, we would be trying to read a reply as a vertical line of single letters.
        It’s inconvenient, but it’s a limitation of the software Marina is using so we’re stuck with it. Maybe one day things will get better.

      • BillyB says:

        Reply to Bob: Better not use the word “better”

        Maybe one day things will get better.

        How about “different” :grin: One day things will be different.

      • Bob says:

        At least I didn’t write “gooder”. :grin:

      • GREG says:

        you could use a phone……/?// :idea:

      • Bob says:

        you could use a phone……/?// :idea:

        That would certainly be Fauster. :lol:

  65. GREG says:

    Is this like……. speed dating? Or sex after marriage? Wham bam thank you mam. Or a drive by, 2 mins and gone? ” What the Buck ” is not 1/2 as pretty as you , But [s]he goes on for a little bit. If I might speak for your Minions ,, SLOW IT DOWN. We need a little fore play and then a cuddle after, Is the house on FIRE?

    Your humble student; Greedy Bastard

  66. origin of the word skeleton (or skull or bone etc. etc.)? :?: ? :smile:
    btw you got amazing videos! :grin:

  67. I am Daniel Bailey. I was adopted, but my birth name was Daniel Cielma. As far as i know my real dad is Polish. i was wondering if you knew the meaning of CIELMA. i hearnd it was French for mother sky, but i hope not, lol! Please help me find out my ancestry.
    sincerely,
    Daniel Bailey

    • micheldiego says:

      That’s interesting. Some countries use the image of and angel falling from the sky to name abandonned children. It’s the case of Brazil where any Mr Do Ceu you meet has been found “from the sky”. You have the french word for sky “ciel” in your name, but I don’t think your name is french, looked for it just jound one Cielma born in France before 1940. You say your origin is polish thought sky in po0lish was “niebo”. I’m puzzled! Good luck in your research.

  68. toffees0 says:

    saute is a cooking term which means to toss in hot fat or butter

  69. orion_ss1 says:

    I had food poisoning ( I believe it was Salmonella ) from bad peanut butter about a year ago; not much fun for almost 2 days.

    I wonder: Why would a doctor name a poison bacteria after himself and not someone he disliked ( unless it was his ex-wife ) :wink: ?

    • micheldiego says:

      It is J. Lignieres who proposed to use Dr Salmon’s name. Not sure it was ment to honour Dr Salmon….
      My bet is that it was to add some confusion, cause some bacteria(s) are named from the Salmon fish, they have the genitive Salmonis in the name:
      Piscirickettsia salmonis, Erwinia salmonis, Bacillus salmonis pestis, Eubacterium salmonis, Streptomyces salmonis, Streptoverticillium salmonis
      Then the Salmonella family is:
      Salmonella bongori Salmonella enterica, Salmonella enterica arizonae, Salmonella enterica diarizonae, Salmonella enterica enterica, Salmonella enterica houtenae, Salmonella enterica indica, Salmonella enterica salamae, Salmonella subterranea.
      And specialists discuss to know if “Flexibacter salmonis” is named from the Dr’s name or from the fish…..

      • GREG says:

        more likely the root , too leap is the answer? The way bacteria is communicated.

      • micheldiego says:

        That’s an interesting theory particulaly in the case of “Flexibacter salmonis” because it affects fishes. It’s tough to leap from fish to fish inside the water. This leaping bacteria then probably moves by leaping from fish to fish only when two fishes leap simultaneously outside the water. It’s not surprising that the first in proposing this theory is named roadrun, quick and fast and himself full of acrobatic skills….

        Of the two other theory discussed before your contribution, one is rather boring the other already funny: Salmonis is the genitive of salmo the fish, this is the boring one. Then the funny one: somebody wanted to honour Dr Salmon (again) and mistakenly used a genitive (poor grammar).

        May I also propose my own theory: The guy who discovered it got sick … and it is his widow who named the killer bacteria “salmonis”. Sound logical and on the same time strange there is no bacteria called “killerella” “yougotmeella” “vomitella” “arghella”….

  70. rastaman36 says:

    ok im scootish and wanted to know the origin of tartan..
    ps o u like men in kilts :cool: :smile:

  71. superhuper says:

    Hi marina, I wonder if you could investigate the origin of the word “Gringo” I’ve heard a version from a friend of mine but I am not sure about. Thanks and have a good time! Superhuper from Switzerland

  72. PRIVEEEET milaya Marina! – ya dolzhen skazat’ 4to segodnyashnie domashnie zadania udivitel’no interessni,zamechatel’no! – :grin: Paying attention to the other four words you gave us i realized how can be interesting and easy for French and especially Italian-speaking students to trace this terms back to their origins and use them properly when they speak English!As a matter of fact many Latin words which gave origins to so many English terms have been transmitted unchanged to modern italian. HOWEVER,sauté,from FRENCH sauter,to leap ,from latin saltare,frequentative of salire(iitalian=salire,to leap,so sauté means to make gently leap the content in the pan when we fry lightly. 2)resilient:from Latin resilire,Italian=risalire,adjective or present participle:risalente. it means the ability to recover quickly from ilness,change,misfortune. The property of something,a material that enables it to resume its original shape. it is interesting to remark that in Italian risalire means to come back with mind,thoughts and facts to something in the past! 3) Salient,from the present simple of Latin salire,to leap,to jump on.see also italian salire,to climb,to come up. it therefore means projecting or jutting beyond the line or a surface,es,=projecting towards the enemy lines,protruding up or out,a salient angle,a salient episode,…or even better the salient point in MARINA’S LESSON (when the mistery is solved!) or even salient façades in a cathedral:their profile follow the different heights in the aisles! -4)Insult: it is interesting to see how in its original and archaic form means to make an attack upon,an assault or even to behave arrogantly) it derives from French insulter,Italian=insultare from Latin insultare=to leap on,jump over(also in order to aggresss) i think,Marina,it would be interesing if you compare these words with the terms insurgence,insurrection,insurgent,you will realize that everithing come from the jump up,leap leitmotive! :lol: prosti menya pozhaluysta esli mozhet byt’ ya byl osobenno sku4nim segodnya i nadeyus 4to vse bylo interesno. dorogaja Marina ty vsegda gluboko nas obogoshaesh s tvoim dragocennim prepodavaniem! -ya tebya obazhayu-!

  73. kdhrocks says:

    Please stop cutting off your head in your vids. Try portrait rather than landscape. Your too good looking to chop off your head

    • HotForWords says:

      kdhrocks, I had that problem with the camera built into my macbook.. I got a new camera and you should start to see more full shots of me as I can put the camera further away.

      • Prospero says:

        Marina – I think you should test the new camera out on a few new outfits. It’s best to limit the quantity of fabric in the outfits, of course, in order to get the best exposure with the camera. To much fabric can hurt the lenses and sensitive electronics within the camera. Oh, and make sure you test many different poses, to be sure that the camera can pick them all up.

        I know this sounds technical, so I recommend that once you’ve recorded a test video like I’ve described, please send it to me directly so I can view it in detail and make sure everything is recording properly.

        :eek:

      • prospero811 has a
        two track mind,
        both tracks in the gutter.
        But, what the hell, so do I :mrgreen:

        I guess a bend and snap
        (ala Legally Blonde) is
        what we’re looking for here :twisted:

      • buzzword says:

        prospero811 has both feet in the gutter and his nose in a god damn dictionary. if he ever gets his thumb out of his ass he would see that i have a reasonable argument regarding “standard” english grammar.

      • Nice imagery, Buzz. Uplifting as ever.

        By “standard,” do you mean that the first word in a sentence or a proper noun such as the name of a country doesn’t need to be capitalized? Just a rhetorical question.

      • buzzword says:

        no, not that standard the other standard. the standard that all standard people use in standard situations. when (standardly speaking mind you) standards are being discussed by standard experts to establish a standard understanding of standards so that the standard person on the standard street can hold a standard conversation with another standard individual and not get any of their standards confused. understand?

      • I can dig where it is that you’re comin’ to me from at, man.

  74. martin1337 says:

    Nice video Marina, loved it :razz: 5*

  75. tayljim says:

    Again another perfect 5 Stars
    what is the meaning of ella in SalmonELLA :?:
    just wondering

  76. Capman911 says:

    Marina there was a url leading to who supplied your music for today at one of my logons this morning. I can’t find it now but I went to that site and about half way down the page there was a picture of a man who looked almost the same as alx. I wonder if he has a twin :?:

  77. hutchiee says:

    First things first, a wild stab at the salireextra credit:

    resilience – rise to the occasion
    insult – leap to conclusions about someone
    salient – well it means jumping doesn’t it…
    sauté – if it’s anything like how I cook, to leap out of the frying pan on to the floor

    Salmon is the best, especially cedar plank salmon on the BBQ. I’ve never gotten salmonella from salmon, but have from chicken way too often.

  78. igordvr says:

    Hi Marina,

    I would like to know the origin of the English expression “Dog’s Bollocks”. The English use the word Bollocks in a lot of ways, good and bad, e.g. “Top Bollocks”, “Nevermind The Bollocks”, “That’s Bollocks” and of course the one I am asking about “Dog’s Bollocks”,

    I’ll try to think of a nicer word to request next time ;-P.

    Thanks beforehand,

    IgorDVR.

  79. kaibanator says:

    I could be wrong about this, but isn’t salmonella mostly found from uncooked meat? In the past I have seen salmonella on red meats ;)

    Anyways, I will probably be offline soon for a day or so (hopefully the former), as I have removalists coming in about 9 hours, and will be moving to my new flat :mrgreen:

    Till next time i drop by, have fun ppls :)

  80. demogun says:

    hi Marina

    I’m curious about the word ‘Artificial Nutrition’. Or just the word ‘curious’. :) Or anything else.:)
    demogun

  81. Bob says:

    I also concur with Capman911, Prospero811 and annuddermale.
    However, I’m going for extra credit with saltant, and saltarello, both dances (and associated music) which involve leaping steps, salto (a leap in ice skating), saltatorial (referring to leaping insects), and, I venture to suggest, the Scottish flag, the Saltire (or St.Andrew’s Cross) which comes from one of the meanings of salient, i.e. pointing away from the centre.

    • Warren says:

      Can I agree too?
      I started looking the words up and they were covered so I stopped.

    • Let me throw one on the fire.

      Saltation is a hydrologic term where larger particles like sand grains and pebbles that are too heavy to travel downstream in suspension get picked up and tumbled along the bottom, hopping and jumping their way down the streambed in the swift current.

      • Warren says:

        pennsyltucky9,
        You know what?
        That going to the office idea I’ve been trying to see if Marina would use that idea on her show. She has a “Teacher’s Pet”, someone that has done well in class. What about the opposite (2nd place, sort of), have a student stay for “Detention”. She could swing a yardstick around and make a “frowny” face (she’d look really cute).

      • annuddermale says:

        “Marina looks really cute all the time.”…Rule 7a of The Marina Sychophant Handbook:cool:

      • Warren says:

        pennsyltucky9,
        No, of course it would be very wrong to award negative behavior, I meant that it would be another way (humorous) to acknowledge a contributing student that was constuctive with their comments. Or a student that continued to use levity as a means to express themselves in a way that was relative to the lesson.

  82. Capman911 says:

    Any body see Jack. Is he still hung over from the Time bandit party? :?: Here’s a cup of joe for you Jack and an asperin. :razz: :razz:

    • Warren says:

      A gentleman and a true scholar, thanks for letting me peek at your paper. Hope the Teach didn’t see that.

    • Captain Jack says:

      I’m back. :???: Oh I hate hang overs. That’s an interesting group of words. ‘Hang over’ or ‘Hung over’. 14 hours of fun just wore me out. I have had jobs that where easier than that. The guys on the Time Bandit love to play hard. After the party I mostly slept and ate a truck load of Ibuprofen. I guess that’s why I don’t party much anymore. Anyways Eddie (coconut), Scott, and Don are fantastic people. I trust them with my life. Im not in their crew, but I am part of the family. For what I seen and done on the boat, one has to be part of the family. They leave for Alaska in a few days. I’m going to miss them. Well except for Scott. I still have to teach him a thing or two. He’ll be going up later in the year.

      Thanks Mike. Nice to feel missed. I missed all of you at the party. Really I did. Thats why I took some photos. Sorry I havn’t uploaded them yet. Today is my big move day. Moving from Seattle to Kirkland. I’m starting my next class on the 9th in my new class room the Heritage Hall.

      I better get back to work. I have my yacht to move and a class to promote.

      __/)__

      • Ahoy, Cap’n,

        For those times when you know you’re headed into tailspin, here’s my favorite “Plan-ahead Hangover cure:”

        Drink at least 1 large glass of water before leaving the bar or party. Drink one glass of water before bed, and take 2 aspirin with it.

        12 oz. Gatorade in the morning.

        Wait 20 minutes before coffee &/or breakfast. Do not agitate.

        It really helps to take aspirin the night before your hangover. As far as ibuprofen, etc, I’m not too sure. Aspirin works for really well for me. The biggest problem I’ve found with the plan-ahead method is that one must be sober enough to recognize beforehand that a future actually exists. :smile:

        Pennsyltucky9 clear.

      • Captain Jack says:

        Oh what a great friend you are PT9 of teaching me your technique AFTER THE FACT. :shock: :shock: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

      • Well, what are friends for?

  83. Capman911 says:

    I agree with prospero811 who agreed with annuddermale about the answers to your questions. I guess we are cheating off each others papers. :oops: Great video Marina and as usual I gave you five stars. and a :smile: to you.

  84. atermono says:

    I am curious about the origin of the word “god” Nice job. I wish there was a talent show for education. No need to say what place you ‘d have finished :) Greetings from greece ;)

  85. Prospero says:

    I agree with annuddermale’s comments below regarding the homework assignment. No point in restating.

  86. annuddermale says:

    *sigh*…as it turns out, Salmonella is a bacteria

    this is one of my pet peeves…bacteria is the plural of bacterium, which should have been used…it’s a common error, and maybe this is an example of evolving language…with so many using “bacteria” where “bacterium” is appropriate, perhaps the plural will become the singular…

    resilience…able to bounce or leap back from adversity…
    insult…derogatory comment tossed out at someone…it might make ‘em leap back at you…
    salient…prominent…something that leaps out at you…
    sauté…hmmm…frying something in a small pan…maybe the grease splatters make you leap back, or it’s the concept of the flavor leaping out at you…

    i’m thinkin’ assault would be a salient addition… :cool:

    • Prospero says:

      This is a good example for the “bad grammar” argument.

      Using the plural when singular is called for is “bad grammar,” in my opinion.

      Although, some people arguing about the issue would suggest that it is either (a) not bad grammar because to say “a bacteria” is “just as correct” as “a bacterium” because “anything goes” in English, or (b) since grammar is in each individual’s head, whether it is wrong to say “a bacteria” rather than “a bacterium” depends on what each individual’s grammar consists of. If a person thinks it’s wrong in their own mind, it’s wrong, otherwise it’s not wrong.

      My thought on the subject is that it’s wrong because current standard English grammar rules suggest that “a bacterium” is correct. I base that with reference to every major source on the subject. It does not appear to be one that has any degree of debate. Perhaps someday it may change, but presently “a bacterium” is correct.

      • Warren says:

        When someone is describing the condition of an infection using the description “Bacteria” instead of “Bacterium” it seems that is correct. Since they are not talking about a single bacterium in the sense that there many of the bacterium although only one strain.

      • Prospero says:

        That would be “a strain,” but not “a bacteria.”

      • buzzword says:

        i’m confused why couldn’t “strain” be used in the same way as “bacteria” since a strain still consists of a multiplicity of bacterium or bacteria. what is the distinction between strain and bacterium which prevents them being interchanged?

      • Prospero says:

        Well, a “strain” in this sense means “a variety or type” of microorganism.

        Variety and strain are both singular, so you say “a variety” or “a strain” of something.

        A microorganism or a bacterium is singular also. So, I think, without actually looking into it, that we would say, “that’s a lethal strain of bacterium” or “these are lethal strains of bacteria.”

        Yes?

      • micheldiego says:

        Yes prospero, you are right, yet….
        Warren argument is valid. For a similar reason nobody says “datum” nowadays, since a datum never comes alone, everybody says “data” even “a” data. Speaking about salmonella where a bacterium is never alone, or I.T. where a datum is never alone, it makes sense forgetting datum and bacterium.
        Then there is the fact that the greek bacterium is a rod, bacteria is a microorganism, nothing to do one thing to another, so using the greek singular/plural for something unknown by greeks seems to be a strange idea. I means when a language absord a foreign word, if this word is used in a diferent meaning it is a very good reason for this word being “integrated” quickly. What about for example “media”. Is not “the” media something contemporary? Doesn’t seems right to integrate the word and use an “english” singular or plural in such cases.
        Two reasons to understand why “bacterium” is of so little use (except in some medical institution) nowadays.
        By the way prospero do you use an agendum, or a criterium, do you say several electra and prota?

      • Bob says:

        People do still refer to “a datum” and a datum can come alone, but it is used in the sense of a point from which to measure other points, for example, a map has a map datum from which all other points on the map are measured, in order to ensure that the map gives as true a representation of reality as is possible, given the limitations of the medium being used.
        Data is used more as a collective noun to refer to a number of pieces of information, so you can have a file of data in the same way as you can have a bag of sugar, but you wouldn’t refer to each individual grain of sugar as “a sugar”. However, “a sugar” could be used to refer to an organic substance with a formula which is classified as belonging to a group known as sugars.
        Also, there is a connection between bacteria and rods, since many bacteria have a shape which is rod-like.

      • micheldiego says:

        Of course there is a connection since who named them choose the greek word for rods because he was looking specifically to rod shaped bacteria. If I said “nothing to do” it is because a greek rod has very little to do with a modern microorganism, beside etymology. About datum, you are right, and for similar reason it is likely bacterium will survive in some jargon or specific occasions. Then for I.T. as in data-mining or data-ware-house where it is clear there are several data as for Salmonella it is likely there are several bacteria, not only common people has a tendency to use as a collective noun, but the academy will tolerate a singular usage first in this areas.

      • Warren says:

        Maybe “strain” is used for descibing a virus. Many of them have variations.

      • annuddermale says:

        micheldiego, please see my discussion of your comment below.

      • Prospero says:

        Warren – I never said it wasn’t. Bacteria is plural. Bacterium is singular.

      • Prospero says:

        Buzz – strain is singular and bacteria is plural. Other than that, I have no idea what you’re asking. Give me an example of the “same way” you intend to use “strain” and “bacteria.”

      • Prospero says:

        micheldiego – warren’s argument does have merit, but it has nothing at all to do with mine (and doesn’t counter mine).

        Also, “a data” is not correct when referring to “a datum.” Someone can say, “a data stream,” or something like that though.

        You seem to be arguing against my assertion on this point. Can you give me an example of what you mean? Use the words in sentences, please.

        You asked, “By the way prospero do you use an agendum, or a criterium, do you say several electra and prota?” I answer, “no.” I use the singular “criterion” and the plural “criteria.” I use the singular “electron” and the plural “electrons.” I use the singular “proton” and the plural “protons.” I use the singular “agenda” and the plural “agendas.” Am I wrong?

    • dvdpage says:

      Annuddermale,
      wouldn’t that be peeve, not peeves?

      A pet peeve is a minor annoyance that can instill great frustration in an individual.

      I have always said it the way you used it here, but now that you mention it?
      Interesting stuff. Great input all! and of course.. thanks Marina +5

      • annuddermale says:

        *double sigh*…No, the plural form is correct…I have, I’m pretty sure, many peeves (among them, people driving one-handed while using a cell phone…but I digress); subject-verb agreement, which is what is really being discussed, is but one of them…therefore, “this is one of my pet peeves” is correct.

        To exemplify the bacterium/bacterium error, let’s discuss any other organism – I’ll pick one of the most ancient, the gingko, Ginkgo biloba. You wouldn’t say, “as it turns out, ginkgo is a trees“; properly it is, “as it turns out, gingko is a tree“. The same rule applies to bacterium/bacteria.

        As for micheldiego’s assertion that the datum/data duality, I agree, datum is seldom used. The problem with that particular example is that, in virtually all cases, anyone discussing data is (agrees with “anyone,” if you are confused) discussing a plurality of datum points. So, data is the correct case of the word to use. Datum has fallen into disuse because of its disuse… :smile:

    • Warren says:

      anuddermale,
      So what’s the difference here:
      datum-data
      bacterium-bacteria
      ?

      • annuddermale says:

        So what’s the difference here:
        datum-data
        bacterium-bacteria
        ?

        There is no difference, Warren…when discussing a single point of data, datum is correct. But a single datum point is rarely discussed.

        The names of single types of organisms, like bacteria, are> discussed frequently, however.

        Maybe one more example will make it clear:

        1) there are two Warrens in Atlanta;
        2) one Warren was named for his father;
        3) one of the Warrens was named after his mother’s maiden name;

        Similarly:
        1) there are many types of bacteria in the world;
        2) one bacterium name is Salmonella;
        3) one of the types of bacteria is Salmonella.

        okay, i wanna get back to dwelling on Marina now… :mrgreen:

      • micheldiego says:

        Annerdumale, I got your point and agree with it, but as your started the “bad bacteriological grammar” discussion, it is an honor for me to add some more blue, and I will argue some bad grammar in your post.

        “one bacterium name is Salmonella” suppose you know an individual bacterium and can name it “Bob”, “Warren” or “Salmonella”. But it appears that nobody really know one individual bacterium. A bacterium is not a pet you could name “salmonella”.

        “one of the types of bacteria is Salmonella “ Unfortunately, but for our amusement, Salmonella can be several species of a genus of bacteria.
        1) It is unlikely one individual bacterium will have its own genus or even species (btw you noticed “species”, no singular?).
        2) To name bacteria we need to have several of them. They can be all of them of the same genus “Salmonella”. Can we then say “one of the Salmonellas” is named after the genus? But wait Salmonella is latin, should we use a latin plural for Salmonella? Maybe, but as part of taxonomy, should we then rely to grammar or to the rules of taxonomy? Yes taxonomy has rules, and for those who think prescriptive grammar is tough just look at this: http://www.bacterio.cict.fr/salmonellanom.html
        3) Then let suppose we have several bacteria of several species for example: Salmonella bongori and Salmonella enterica both of the Salmonella genius. You can say they are Salmonella (one genius), or Salmonella(s) (english plural for two species) or Salmonellae (one of the possible latin plural, but beware ella is a diminutive…) or Salmonella (one of the possible taxonomic rules). And we count 2.456.345 bacteria of the Salmonella bongori species should we write 2.456.345 Salmonella bongori, or Salmonella(s) bongori or Salmonella(e) bongori or Salmonella(s) bongori(s) etc etc etc…..

        Rather confusing! In fact I’m not sure there is (are) some bad grammar in your post…but still find amusing the argument.

      • annuddermale says:

        micheldiego, there is fine line between amusement and tedium…and i’m tottering…

        not dottering (at least not yet)…

        genus is singular…Salmonella is a genus of bacterium, some of which cause salmonellosis…

        see the , CDC’s discussion, part of which is quoted below:

        Salmonella is actually a group of bacteria that can cause diarrheal illness in humans. They are microscopic living creatures that pass from the feces of people or animals to other people or other animals. There are many different kinds of Salmonella bacteria. Salmonella serotype Typhimurium and Salmonella serotype Enteritidis are the most common in the United States. Salmonella germs have been known to cause illness for over 100 years. They were discovered by an American scientist named Salmon, for whom they are named.

        Note the syntax with which the terms “bacteria” and “bacterium” are used…

        as for species, it is one of the rare words that are the same in both the singular and plural…the name for the species of man is Homo sapiens; the name of species within the genus Homo include sapiens, erectus, habilis and others…

        but can’t just sit down and have a beer over this?… :neutral: :mrgreen:

      • micheldiego says:

        A beer is a great idea, we just have to avoid the Belgian brands finishing with -us or -um or -is, so I don’t get in troule again when I order 2.
        Please note: what I found amusing was the recursivity part of this thing. Something member of a family itself member of a bigger family and all three levels with the same name. Nothing to do in fact with grammar, more a Monthy Pyton or D. Hoffsdater trip…I just forsaw the singular/plural mess possibilities of this case.
        I agree happy-ending this with a beer!

      • Happy to join you, I’ll have a local beer.

        Skoal, Prost, Kampai, A’ sante’, L’cha’im, Nazdorovye, Cheers, and most of all, “to world peace.”

    • Warren says:

      annuddermale,
      Great example, thanks.
      Yes, Marina is why we all show up here.
      Just watch the elbows- there’s a line here.

      • Hi Warren,

        I see where you’re going with your detention idea. I also thought about this when I wrote my reply to you and Capman911 as well.

        Fact is, we’re all in ‘detention’ as long as we want to be. No punishment there. Further, ANY attention from Marina (such as a name mention) is seen as invaluable by sheer default. We wouldn’t want her to start ‘rewarding’ people for being rude to each other like they are on YouTube, would we? I wouldn’t. This idea seems to need a bit more development.

        Thanks for your response!

  87. Wild Salmon is the best. BBQ or smoked…..

    Off the subject. I was watching TV bloopers of farting outtakes(call me immature, but funny). We all know what it is, it could be causing Global Warming (Cows) and I found that Wikipedia has way more information on the subject than I needed to know . But when looking up the definition, it goes back to flatulence. So where does the word FART come from?

  88. nighteye says:

    Actually, there is a link. The forefather of the scientist, when choosing his last name, named himself after the salmon. So salmonella is named after the descendant of a guy that named himself after salmon.

    Anyway, speaking of resembling words, is there a link between sceptic and septic?

    • micheldiego says:

      Salmon name in America is or English or Jewish or Irish. English and Jewish Salmon comes from Solomon, Irish comes from the fish.
      1) The Dr insisted in being called saLmon and not sa mon
      2) Elmer is old english and David is Hebrew.
      So Apparently David Elmer Salmon was from the english “Salmon” family derivating from Solomon.
      The fact that the “l” is pronuinciate in Salmonella and not in Salmon, could have been a clue showing the lack of relationship between both.

    • micheldiego says:

      Skeptic means inquiring, reflective comes from the greek skeptesthai and comes from the greek philosofical school. Skeptesthai also gave scope, telescope spectacle and horoscope…
      Septic comes also from the greek septikos putrefact coming from sepein roted

  89. geoffm says:

    I wonder if we’re going to learn about “Bain Marie” some time soon…?

  90. foxbow says:

    Nope, never had salmonelle(i think) i’v never been sick.. :eek: I’v had tons of samon tough:P

    But How the hell did that umbrella thing NOT leave a mark… i’m sure it was stuck in that that door in the stiff me vid :neutral: confused……:S

  91. lividemerald says:

    I’ve never commented on your clothing before. But your outfit today is electrifying! Wow!

  92. John says:

    Maia Marina, I have never eaten caviar before, however salmonella food poisoning is easily caught from eating undercooked chicken eggs. I have probably gotten it a few times. It can make you feel like your in a war for survival. As for the answers to the questions you’ve asked i will have too think about for a while.

  93. labbatt78 says:

    There’s more fish I like besides salmon. Walleye, Ocean perch, Catfish,etc. I love seafood especially, crab legs, lobster tail and shrimp.

    • lividemerald says:

      Crab legs are at the top of my favorite food list. I’m also a fan of salmon. They make a good salmon at Outback. The best salmon I ever ate, though, was at the cafe in the Paris Las Vegas casino. No doubt, better salmon is to be had in the Pacific Northwest. I hope to visit that region of the country one day….

    • BillyB says:

      Hey labbatt78, where do you catch the Walleye, or is it store bought?
      Our Hockey team “Salmon Kings” uniform has a picture of a big fish wearing a crown, looked kinda goofy till the team got a winning record, then the fans started buying the jerseys like crazy & team pride made the symbol endearing.
      “Penquins”, “Red Wings” another couple of funny names for teams. I admit I was wrong about Pitsburgh winning the first game I didn’t think they’d wait till the third game to score a goal. May end today for them. think so?

  94. micheldiego says:

    About salmonella never sound serious to me for a killing bacteria name. Daniel Elmer Salmon was the boss and took the credit. But who did the work? His subordinate Theobald Smith. If there were more justice in the labs Salmonella should have been Smithenella! But then Smithenella sounds also not very serious, less serious for a killer than smithewesson for example. In fact Smith had an assistant himself: Frederick Kilborne. Why not then Kilbornella? This was a perfect name for a bacteria Kilbornella.
    By the way “Daniel Elmer Salmon” has nothing to do with the french rock band “Elmer food beat” whose etymology is very amusing but improper in this classroom.

  95. GREG says:

    oh hey Teach, Ever tried Salmon baked on a cedar plank.,With a cucumber and lemon borscht , or new potato and green bean salad , very good for You. healthy…..mostly

  96. GREG says:

    salient;; is like hopping/dancing
    saute’ ; brown quickly in butter or oil(flipping it about in the pan)
    resilience; bounce back
    insult; to make hopping mad :wink:

    to leap?

  97. micheldiego says:

    Hi Marina,
    Did you notice there is no relation neither between leap and lox?

    a) latin re (back) and salire -> resilire -> resilient -> English resilient
    b) Latin in (upon) and salire -> insalire -> insultare -> French insulter -> English insult
    c) Latin salire -> saltare -> French sauter
    d) latin salire -> salient -> French (heraldic) saillant -> English salient

    There is also from salire: exile, assail, assault, saltinbanco, result, sally, desultory, saltation…and what we do when we get a new HFW video: exult…

  98. luxus00 says:

    Hello Marina!
    I would like to know the origin of the word: “smorgasbord”.

    Thanks in advance!

  99. Hi Marina,

    I would like to know the origin of the word “sardoodledom.” This was a word from last year’s spelling bee that gave the speller and the crowd a memorable guffaw.

  100. cink says:

    Marina Kisses from Argentina (Paraná) :mrgreen:

    lucas ^^ :oops:

  101. ectoplasm4 says:

    Insult: comes from the latin insultare meaning to jump at which comes from salire.

    Resilience: comes from the latin resilire which is a break down of “re” meaning back and salire.

    Resilience means to rebound or recoil.

    Salient is a heraldic term that comes from the latin salientem comes from salire.

    Saute is the past participle of sauter meaning to jump. which in latin is salire.

  102. greenbush says:

    Wow, i’m number 6 in line, don’t have any answers for HFW, thedragon fixed his e-mail filter settings, and more importantly Miss HFW has an even nicer pink lacy top, which is even better than the yellowish green one which was my favorite.

  103. smithercell says:

    Hey Marina,

    I was wondering if you could do the origin of the word Quarantine. I’m taking lessons in French right now, and the word is strikingly familiar to the word quarante, which means 40 in French. I’m really confused about the connection, if there even is one.

    • gbasa says:

      This one isn’t difficult. Quarantine was a period, originally 40 days, of detention or isolation imposed upon ships in port, when suspected of carrying some infectious or contagious disease.

      Why 40 days (on in Italian, Quaranta)? Noah’s Ark.

      I’m pretty sure the word itself has Latin roots (most Italian words do).

      • You got it quite right! good job
        when plague was an issue, and
        later cholera; symptoms didn’t
        appear immediately. 28-30 days
        could pass before onset of illness.
        The science in those days was
        undeveloped, so i guess the extra
        ten days was “just to be sure”.

      • micheldiego says:

        Or maybe it is related to the 40 days Christ spent alone in the desert. Originating the lent before easter called careme in French, quaresma in spanish etc… from the Latin quadragesima as in quarantine. Not sure any medical act was related to experience or observation in that time, maybe chacha is right, maybe it’s a coincidence, and why the 40 days is just some superstitious reason: the time the devil has to tempt or corrupt the flesh.

      • BillyB says:

        The number 40 in biblical writings is the number for testing… Time in days or years that remove all doubt. Moses life was divided into 40year segs, & the desert wanderings 40yrs. Raining 40days for the flood is significant, although the ark floated much longer.
        I remember the astronauts returning from the Moon being quarentined, as the fear was that something, lunar bacterria or bug, may cause havock here on earth. I’d never thought, before, that quarentine came from 40.
        So much food for thought here.

    • lividemerald says:

      Good luck in your French lessons. I got my M.A. in French Lit back in 1978 from the University of Arizona, and I still enjoy speaking, reading, and writing in French. I have a French girlfriend, too!

  104. thedragon says:

    Yess!! I fixed it. for some reason the junk e-mail filter got turned up. I fixed it and now everything should be fine

    Love
    The Dragon

  105. bosscelt says:

    Simply put, most of those words have to do with something that “leaps out” at you.

    Salient: something that projects out of a wall
    resilient: something that would leap back into place
    insult: would be hurled ableit verbally at someone.

    Just thinking…..

    Erin Go Bragh!

  106. temerc says:

    5 star rating as usual…..well, over at Youtube anyhow….I don’t see the rating stars here anymore

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