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Where does the derogatory word WOP come from?

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  1. Wop, Mick, Scotty, Welshie, Kraut, and Injun… also Redneck, and Hillbilly.

    infact i’m also going to request [Mick], [Scotty], [Welshie], [Kraut], [Injun], [Redneck], and [Hillbilly]…

    also, is the term [to Welsh on a deal] something derogertory to the Welsh people? HOTFORWORDS MUST INVESTIGATE!!!…. please…

  2. Some slang words to describe my ethnicities are as follows: kraut, limey, himey (possibly), wop, and coon.

  3. Marina, on the “Coast To Coast” radio program last night (Sat) on KFI, the guest was Philip Carlo, author of “Confessions of a Mafia Boss” and other books. On the show, Philip mentioned several times convincingly that “WOP” stood for “With Out Passport / Papers”
    http://www.philipcarlo.com/

    You and I and prospero811 and others know that “With Out Passport / Papers” is a false etymology. I know that you do not discuss politics as it is divisive and etymologies has it’s own political issues and the emotional comments can be seen below.

    As prospero811 has already mentioned that the false etymology came after the fact and from listening to the radio show, I might speculate that there may have been either a conscientious or subconscious effort to change the meaning of “WOP” in the 1920s to something less derogatory perhaps via the mafia and then political channels.

    Request:
    Is it possible to make a video on how words become transformed through false etymologies whereby the false etymologies eventually become canonized as true meanings through war, politics or other means? Maybe chose a few words that you are aware of that are examples of this. Thank you for your wonderful efforts and great videos.

    • P.S. (Thinking out loud)
      I light of the emotional outcries against the false etymologies, how do you see popular authors who spread false etymologies either intentionally or ignorantly? What can be done? Or, is it that the pen indeed is mightier that the sword? Should authors be responsible? I guess, once the horse is out of the barn, there might be little that can be done?

    • leonard says: 121.2

      One time, long ago I read about when the USA annex parts of Mexico and many habitants became citizens without papers, thus what lead to California. And so much more. :?: :?: :???:

  4. pmedes says: 120

    My would be “Kraut”, after the sourkraut eaters.

  5. Never knew about that WOP word before.

    Round these ‘ere parts, we Country Bumkins get riddiculed by the townies for drinking cider and discussing how to make butter….or at least thats what they say.
    Thankfully living so close to Henley I hear the words Snob and Toff quite alot, which is cool as means of good stock. This class system has just gotta stop!!! Posh is a state of mind as with anything really.

  6. thedragon says: 117

    I kind of have 2 ethnicities I am white and I have red hair. so a slang word or phrase for me would be “a red headed step child.”

    Love
    TheDragon

  7. stokesjrj1 says: 115

    Wop,Wop stands for “women on pill” they are actually time release pregnancy pills, sorry ladies “splish splash”

  8. errin says: 114

    As an Italian-American of Sicilian descent, I can state for a fact that Marina couldn’t be more wrong about this word’s origin and meaning. Her cultural ignorance of Italians is quite glaring to anybody of similar background to me.
    Wop is an acronym for ‘With Out Papers’. It pre-dates passports, and has to do with Italian immigrants not having the proper papers supposedly to enter the country back in the Ellis Island days. That Marina is so clueless about the ‘papers’ thing instead of the ‘passport’ thing goes to show how flawed this lesson is.
    As for ‘wop’ originating among the Italian language, that is just a shot in the dark by a confused philologist. Wop is a word used by non-Italian Americans to describe Italian American immigrants. Italians don’t go around calling each other wops because respect means a lot in the culture. You come at me with respect, or you don’t come at me at all, else you might not like the consequences, especially when you are dealing with those of a Sicilian bloodline. Capice?
    And Marina must not have encountered many Italian or Italian American men, else she’d know they don’t go around getting ’supported’ by women, whether it be one woman, two women, or many women. In Italian culture, the man is in charge and the man is the head of the family, mindful of the family. Letting a woman call the shots or treating a woman badly is not respected at all in the Italian American culture, and an Italian American man doing such would lose face and/or feel ashamed of himself for doing such.
    I think at this point Marina should ask herself how she’d react to somebody putting forth lessons about Russian Americans that are way off the mark and wholly ignorant of the society/culture therein. It’s not intelligent, it’s not sexy, and it’s not even a lesson. Guess she’s just not thinking straight. Else she would have chosen a better word and given a better lesson. Gotta give respect to get respect, Ms. Orlova. Else you might start losing some of your student body. Peace.

    • You’re dead wrong, errin. The explanation that “wop” means “without papers” is not correct. It’s a myth. It was created after the fact, as a backtronym. The true etymology is just as Marina stated, and the word was in use well before ANY papers were required. So, all immigrants would have been just as “without papers” as the Italians.

      Italians don’t go around calling each other wops now, but in the 19th century Neapolitans did use an outgrowth of the word “guapo” which changed over time into “wop.” Later, it was changed around into a slur against Italians, with the false etymology created after-the-fact to imply that they were coming to the U.S. “without papers” (not legally or justifiably), while other immigrants had papers. That’s just incorrect.

      Your explanation of Italian American culture in modern times is fine; however, it is of no value in an etymological sense because the etymology dates back more than a century. Nothing Marina said implies that she thought that Italian men run around being supported by women.

      Your vitriolic, shoot-from-the-hip, posts attacking Marina are not well taken (because you’re just wrong as a matter of etymology and historically). It seems to be born out of some self-righteous conviction that things that you think are correct because you think them. Before criticizing someone who actually opened a book to research the answer, you might want to do some groundwork yourself. The wop and cracker etymologies were simple to verify – you obviously didn’t try and just assumed that whatever was in your head must have been correct.

      • jace says: 114.1.1

        Look, I don’t know what’s up between you and Errin but there is no need to turn Marina’s site into an argument. I believe that I sort of started this off with my below comment so let me clarify a little bit. As prospero states, it was “simple to verify” the guappo origin…all from non-authoritative web sites like wikipedia where almost anyone can add information. I often use these sites myself but always use the information to get to a reliable source. And yes, I also know that there were no passports or immigration papers required for people to come to the US (otherwise the people in question would have been returned to their countries as illegals) but the officials who processed immigrants through the process in the US did use papers from the country of origin, namely various forms of identity papers and birth certificates. A quote from the history of Ellis Island on the official web site about the process in 1900 reads “If the immigrant’s papers were in order…” It further goes on to state “The ship’s manifest log (that had been filled out back at the port of embarkation) contained the immigrant’s name and his/her answers to twenty-nine questions. This document was used by the legal inspectors at Ellis Island to cross examine the immigrant during the legal (or primary) inspection.” People going though this process were passed from one inspector to another and the stamp was used to ensure that the next inspector was aware of the situation.

        In my original comments I have no intention at insulting Marina or her show but I am very curious as to the sources of her info on this one. The first time that I ever heard the ‘without papers” etymology was at a hisotrical museum run by the government and I have yet to find a source for the “guappo” derevation that is even remotely as credible. I’m not saying that it isn’t possible but I’m curious as to what the source is.

        Needless to say though, “wop” has turned into a very derogatory term used to insult Italian Americans and should be avoided just like the words “nigger,” “cracker,” “kike,” etc. Also we don’t need to have all of the nasty, bitter attitude on this site. There is no issue with disagreements or differences of opinion but let’s keep it civil.

        Marina, as always, love the show, keep it up!

      • Don’t pull out the stiletto, Siggi.
        Sorry. I to am Son of Sicily.
        Like the word nigger, it don’t mean nuttin.
        BTW: I have studied Pilipino knife fighting. Though I found it quite worthless, I was always getting jibed for my heritage till I pointed out that one cut is enough.
        BTW: My great Zio Nichole carried around a “Lupo.”

      • jace, for the record, my posts were direct and to the point, but not insulting in any way. I don’t think we have to leave posts like errin’s unanswered. She was dead wrong about “cracker” and “wop.” There are plenty of good sources for the etymologies of both, and explanations for why the without papers theory is wrong (and a backtronym).

    • Someone needs a nap
      what is the acronym ; wet back?

    • Marina says: 114.3

      Errin,
      Thanks for the feedback.. but the “With Out Papers” is a myth. It was created long after the term was already in use.

      My sources are the “Oxford English Dictionary” and a bunch of books. I’ll try to find some links on the web for you:

      http://www.wordorigins.org/index.php/wop/
      http://www.billcasselman.com/wording_room/wop.htm

      I welcome disagreements.

      Thanks!
      Marina

    • tedt says: 114.4

      Woooooo, sound like Italian ignorance/temperament.
      In Italy the father sit, his son too, while the daughters and mothers have to clean the whole house and the men have fun outside or what else….sound like a intelligence way to treat someone !?
      I was in Italy 4 times, 2 times Sicillia, “Se, comprendere” ? The men may be the head of the family, he works and get in money, but on the other side if his woman would work too, you think he would help in the house ?….mabe then his son has to.
      Italy is nice, but I knew a family for about 10 years, and the son always talked, talked, talked, but you never saw him move his ass, he just went out and showed his “Beauty”, he couldn´t clean his own bed, ok, the bed mabe, but the rest.

      You can go crazy now, but I don´t care for such ignorance, do something and then we can talk, if you can´t take that, then….how would a woman say, fine !

  9. errin says: 113

    You made friends with a mop, Marina? Cool. I’m sure you can have some nice dates with it in your kitchen. :twisted: Peace, Errin : )

  10. pagedoll says: 112

    Hey Marina, Page and I are going to see Jack Johnson at Irvine Meddows friday aug 29th. I’m getting four tickets, You and a friend should meet us there. Come on, bring a friend. Meet us there. Have fun. Jack puts on a great live show! :grin:

  11. I’ve been called a wanker, an auslander, a grease monkey, ummm…
    mongo man, yard ape, river rat, Once, I was even called a Yuppee!

    I guess “anglo” would be the word, I don’t know… :mrgreen:

    blue is my favorite color, again! :grin:

  12. The English call an Irishman ‘Paddy’ and a Scotsman ‘Jock’, which are just generic, typical names identifiable with those nationalities.

    Why ‘Taff’ for the Welsh, though?

    Also why do Yanks call us Limeys, and the Aussies call us Poms? :???:

  13. Marina,
    I can not seeem to find any slangs used for the Irish, Although the IRA has terrorised the Brits for taking over there island.

    Still I’m part Italian and there you would find a
    Grease spot
    would get the italians goat.

    Gregory

  14. sgrock says: 108

    I always thought “GUAPPO” meant CUTE in Spanish.

  15. elpollo says: 107

    like an acronym?good one

  16. Mackrel eaters (pardon spelling)
    spud lovers
    Too many, not going to list them.

    Robert

  17. peky says: 105

    can you explain what means SEX.

    _________________
    Peky

  18. jace says: 104

    :???:
    Marina,

    I’m a little confused on this one…About two years ago I was visiting the museum at Ellis Island and they specifically mentioned the tie-in to the derogatory term “WOP.” There were even a few documents shown where a rubber “W.O.P.” stamp was used on the immigration paperwork to state “Without Papers.” The museum further went on to discuss the fact that at the time period it was mostly Italians passing through Ellis Island. As had happened almost every time the bulk of the immigrants’ country of origin changed, the preceding groups held them with a certain amount of animosity because they were considered competition for jobs and therefore used the word Wop in a derogatory manner.

    I hate to question your research like this but are you sure about the guappo connection or is this merely a really odd coincidence?

    Jace

    PS Keep up the podcast. It’s great, bloopers and all! :grin:

  19. ibm6789 says: 103

    haha, mop. umm, for me a slang word that I know of is cracker… why am I a cracker? that doesn’t make much sense :???:

  20. okay4now says: 101

    So, big deal Italian guy I’m being supported by a beautiful/sexy/world class French woman…I just haven’t met her yet.

    H.M.: vanilla, yobatcho (sp?)

  21. maheez09 says: 100

    well, i am two minorities, japanese and mexican. finding this hilarious in high school, we dubbed me a japican, or japexican. i still laugh at the fact my mother was asian, and my father was mexican, and somehow met in colorado. yay for story.

  22. risenmonk says: 99

    Well, I double checked her assessment. She didn’t have enough time to expound on the slur for Italian people.” Think of the Italian word for ‘men who make up the watch,’ guardia. It is pronounced ‘GWARDya.” The famous airport in New York city is not ‘Lawardia,’ is it? No, it’s LaGWARDia. But we are to suppose that every single American listening to these Italian immigrants use their word guappo heard them say ‘wopo’ and not ‘GWAppo.’ That’s unlikely.

    The etymology that appeals to my knowledge of verbal transmission is the one propounded by most Spanish linguistic writers on the etymology of their own words and language. Their basic story is: it all happened in Spain. Guapo was first applied in Spain as an insult for Italian migrant grape workers in Iberian vineyards.” (www.billcasselman.com).

  23. kind of confuse in my comments, after reading it… guapo is a word in spanish, which means handsome in english

    galloffdaniel

  24. Very good video Marina
    One of the words that you said was guapo, in spanish means handsome in english.

    :mrgreen:
    galloffdaniel

  25. elvenfunk says: 96

    Hey I was wondering where the phrase “nail” comes from and why we use the same word for finger nails?
    I mean, we don’t have nails on our fingers, do we? Or is there another word to describe our finger nails?
    And why do men say, I nailed that girl? Ok maybe I know why, but it’s always important to be sure!
    DOn’t you tihnk so? :smile:

    • Qermaq says: 96.1

      Well it originally referred to a claw, or a fingernail, then spikes were referred to as nails too, as they bit into things like a claw. Of course, when you nail something, you drive something home, you bang it, you leave it firmly stuck, so there’s why you nail a girl on a date.

      Odd though that we remove a nail with the claw of a hammer. Don’t know why that is.

  26. Rob Boudon says: 95

    Marina,

    I’m a “Mutt.” A European mutt, but a mutt nonetheless. I have ancestors from France, Ireland and The Ukraine. I’ve never associated myself with any one group and the only parade in NYC that I regularly attend is the Halloween parade. I consider myself a “Mutt” because that is what dogs are called when they have characteristics of two or more types of breeds. I’m happy with that. :cool:

  27. jammer says: 94

    Marina:

    I was told that upon arrival to America, most Italians did not speak English. When Immigration asked a simple question like “their name”, they could not understand, therefore they could not give the correct answer. Italians were asked to Write On Paper their full name. Again they did not understand. This turned into WOP, for short and then considered offensive.
    You are too hot for any of this to matter. We’ll believe anything you say.
    Please tell me, does the word “lunatic” have anything to do with the lunar phase of the moon?

  28. wouter says: 93

    Hi Marina,
    The derogatory word for the Dutch people is ‘kaaskop’ which, translated into English means cheesehead :oops:

  29. Why do we refer to ten years as a DECADE :?: :?: :?:

    • pagedoll says: 92.1

      decade
      c.1451, “ten parts” (of anything; originally in ref. to the books of Livy), from M.Fr. decade, from L.L. decadem (nom. decas), from Gk. dekas (acc. dekada) “group of ten.” Meaning “ten years” is 1594 in Eng.
      :smile:

    • deci, centi, milli – prefixes from Romans (?)
      fourth grade stuff. You did make me wonder
      (unrelated) – Why is ten cents called a “dime”?
      Stops on a dime,
      Phone calls used to cost a dime,
      dime newspapers, dime coffee

      dime days are gone…

  30. hutchiee says: 91

    They just call me whitey or gweilo

  31. dicko says: 90

    My hot MARINA ,what is the origin of the word DICK ?

    • I call mine Richard for long.

    • pagedoll says: 90.2

      dick
      “fellow, lad, man,” 1553, rhyming nickname for Rick, short for Richard, one of the commonest Eng. names, it has long been a synonym for “fellow,” and so most of the slang senses are probably very old, but naturally hard to find in the surviving records. The meaning “penis” is attested from 1891 in British army slang; dickhead “stupid person” is from 1969. Meaning “detective” is recorded from 1908, perhaps as a shortened variant of detective. The Dick Whittington story is an old one, told under other names throughout Europe, of a poor boy who sends a cat he had bought for a penny as his stake in a trading voyage; the captain sells it on his behalf for a fortune to a foreign king whose palace is overrun by rats. The hero devotes part of his windfall to charity, which may be why the legend attached in England since 16c. to Sir Richard Whittington (d.1423), three times Lord Mayor of London, who died childless and devoted large sums in his will to churches, almshouses, and St. Bartholomew’s Hospital.
      …yes I looked it up. :smile:

  32. drunken taz says: 89

    I’m American/ Puerto Rican . the deroratory word spick. .I once read many years ago that spick was first used to describ Italians.. can you please investagate :?:

  33. Hi Marina, have you been watching the Europen Soccer Championship. Not the same without the Enlish but probably better without our infamous hooligans Apparently the word hooligan derives from a notorious Irish family in London…I’d love to know more if possible.

    Cheers

    • Yeah, prestonparasoccer, but have you noticed the evil Germans have been causing all kinds of unpleasantness (often outside the stadia) and getting arrested and so on… it’s not just us by any means :wink:

      Meanwhile: Rom-ân-ia! Rom-ân-ia!

  34. koalabear says: 86

    “Good teaching is one-fourth preparation and three-fourths theater.” – Gail Godwin Marina HFW

  35. Would you, Marina, describe or characterize yourself as voluptuous? I just like saying that word because it says so much in just four syllables….

  36. that’s pretty interesting. make me the teacher’s pet please!

  37. One last thing: verdure – what is it and where does it grow?

  38. Speaking of chap….how many meanings does that word chap have, who made it and how was it formed into an English word?

    signing out,
    Shawn Norris

  39. Malicious(ness), veracious(ness), voracious(ness), fallacious(ness), and delicious(ness) all have their suffixes the same, but what makes them so different? they all sound so juicy! lol :cool: and what makes it any different if I said Mariciousness describing the juice in Marina’s ever-so-pleasant name? huh? huh? You tell me. :oops: :grin: Well I think I’ll study the word maliciousness and I would like to know who came up with it first – and I know it’s not ol’ Albert Einstein! The good ol’ chap!

  40. Bob says: 80

    Me too.
    From Australians I’m a Pom, Pommie or Pommie Bastard, but they’re all convicts :razz: who came from England, so Aussies are POMEs themselves. (POME=Prisoner Of Mother England) :razz: :razz: :razz:
    From Yanks I’m a Limey.
    From the French I’m a Rosbif (Corruption of Roast Beef).
    And from the Scots I’m a Sassenach or, even worse, the ultimate insult, an Englishman.

  41. My Dear Teacher,

    It must take some effort to collect all of the word requests and keep track of them. Would a specific page used only for requesting words make sense? It would make it easier for you to keep track of them?

    I was thinking :idea: of seeing a results page that would show a histogram (similar to the voting page) of all of the requested words and which ones have been done. People visiting that page could also then vote for their favorite word yet to be done.

    I think the words that you choose for your videos are words that tend to surface in various current events, which I think is great.
    (e.g. GTA IV, Hooker, Nuclear, Lesbian, etc)

    I know that it takes a lot of work to produce a video and there is probably a three months lag from a word request to a video? Just letting you know that your work is very much appreciated. ♥♥♥

    • Get coComments and put Marina as a favorite. She is a zippy squirrel!
      Try to keep up with HER, if you can!
      Her production software lets her edit “on the fly”.
      She has her effects and standard edits already
      macro’d to give the product that sleek, lengthy
      post production “feel” you have noticed.
      I don’t know if she has software searching
      for the frequency of words requested,
      she might. I believe she does that on the
      fly pretty much, though – whatever strikes
      her fancy… :mrgreen:

  42. captainjack says: 78

    “Good teaching is one-fourth preparation and three-fourths theater.” – Gail Godwin

    Gail got that right!

  43. greenbush says: 77

    Ok, slang words for my own ethnicity: white trash, cracker, gentile(?), poor dollar devaluated American, white boy, ex-hippie, boy, geek, whitey, (new recruits in the Army were called) lizards/grunts/target practice/cruit/ road kill, dirt farmer, celery picker, wooden shoes, tulip farmer, Anglo-Saxon. Some of the above do not really qualify as ethnic slang, but in another persons mind do, to me a caucasian/Protestant/American male/with Dutch ancestry. Miss HFW probably never studied Pig Latin for the missing link, part four.issing-may ink-lay

  44. wharf says: 76

    Love your lessons.Some very interesting words have been explained.I am an aussie and would love it if you could find the origin of the word YOBBO.The word was used a lot years ago but doesnt get much use no days.Hope you like the choice of word and do a lesson on it.

  45. swampwiz says: 75

    Marina, is there a derogatory word in Russian for Ukrainians?

  46. swampwiz says: 74

    I am predominantly Cajun (French) heritage, and our derogatory terms are “coonass” and “frog”.

  47. presumined says: 73

    Hola Marina,

    I’m a godamn Limey… and I also have mop who is my friend – which is useful when I have to clean the kitchen floor here at my apartment in Liberty City…

    Bizooo!

    PS In Australia I’m a Pommie and in France I’m a Rosbif or a Fuckoff (the French claim we say this all the time)…

  48. roadrunrnch says: 72

    slide down to the You(r s)tube. And the fly shit that coats the comment page, Is remnant of the good old , Build Her up so they can Rip Her down. the young are a culture of shit stains.

  49. Wow, I haven’t heard the term “wop” in a long time. I hope I don’t forget about it, but I don’t think I would ever be using it.

    Hmm, as for the homework, I know a few: Cracker/Saltine, Ghost, Cabbage, WASP, Honky/Conky, Ofay, Albino, Cancer, Blanco, Hick

    I’m sure there is more, but those are just the ones I’ve heard of.

    I actually would like to submit a word. The word havoc. I know that is means chaos, but what about it is different from chaos? Why not just stick with one word and ditch the other?

  50. dragon90815 says: 70

    I thought WOP was slang for oriental

    • you thought wrong, or else whatever generation you are in wasn’t paying enough attention to match the derogatory term to the correct ethnic group…

      good for them… :cool:

    • Bob says: 70.2

      Maybe you were thinking of WOG=Worthy Oriental Gentleman.

      • Wasn’t the origin of WOGS from the importation of thousands of Indian, Asian, and African workers into British-controlled territory for major earth-moving and construction projects, to be removed to a different area upon completion? The workers were issued work uniforms to differentiate them from the natives or the overlords, and printed in huge letters across their backs were the initials WOGS (worker on government stipend). I don’t remember where I saw it, but that’s been my impression of its origin for some time now.

      • Bob says: 70.2.2

        NABB
        Not Another Bloody Backronym! :roll:

  51. dragon90815 says: 69

    What is the Slang word for Native American Indian :?:

  52. labbatt78 says: 68

    I got one. What’s the origin of the word “kid” :?:

  53. cognation73 says: 67

    Marina,

    This one is a gimme (and a nod) to your mother tongue.

    Perchance you could elucidate us on the origins of the Cyrillic alphabet.

    Sidebar: I’ve noticed that although you’re written English (and grammar) are superb (better then mine in the latter case). Still, you seem to struggle with certain American English constructions. No shame here. I’m just curious, given that English is your second language, what grammatical and vocal constructions you find most challenging.

    In fairness, I should say that like most Americans I wasn’t even exposed to a foreign language until I was 14. My palette & ear were fully formed and not very flexible. I’ve had five years of English & a semester of French. I can read and transliterate rather well from most romance languages, some Germanic languages. Some Gaelic, too. I can stretch my double “Ls” but I can’t roll or trill my “Rs”. Germanic languages are not so hard to unpack at the noun level but baffling when I try to make sense of sentence organization.

    What was the most difficult part of learning English for you? Are my travails normal or are you just that much smarter then I am? ;)

    • Hello cognation73,

      I have a similar interest and I had just recently requested origins of Cyrillic, Slavic and a brief cultural tidbits about Russia.

      In one of her videos, Marina had mentioned difficulties in pronouncing the “w” sound and she used the example of pronouncing “video” in the “Molotov Cocktail” video. (Very cute; about 3 min mark)
      This is another ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ video.
      http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/05/05/molotov-cocktail/

      Although Belgian, I was fascinated with Helmut Lotti’s musical program “From Russia With Love” shown on PBS. I loved the music and the Russian costumes and the people.

      P.S.
      You can call me kraut, or teutonic twit (Blazzing Saddles), but don’t call me late for dinner. :smile:

      • How about an early breakfast, then? ;)

        I think a lot of it has to do with the early muscular development of the palate. I grew up in the Pennsylvania suburbs, near Philly, thus gifting me with a singularly unpleasant accent, a voice that projects at least half way through my nose.

        (Not that bad, really.)

        I don’t really know Russian, save for a few words, but I don’t have too much trouble pronouncing what I see. My Spanish is uneven. It’s a rapidfire language but the syllables are clipped and the “double-l” combination seems to suit my northeastern tongue. Can’t roll my “Rs” for my life, though. And French…ugh. Lovely language but mostly I end up coughing up bits of lunch and lung when I try to pronounce it. German is a little easier but every time I try it on I get this insatiable urge to starta land war in Asia in the middle of winter. This might be a different problem.

  54. davecodave says: 66

    Incidentally WOP is also the sound that it makes when you hit an Italian over the head with a shovel.
    I’m Mexican. The derogitory term for that is Spick. I wonder why Female Mexicans arn’t called “Spicketts”?

  55. liamz09 says: 65

    hello i just got a hotforwords thingy cause i saw your videos on youtube and there great

    i was wondering what is the word “WHAT” and its kinda been buggin meh because we use it all the time and i dont know where the word “WHAT” came from.hope you are able to help meh and others

    p.s. i think you are pretty

  56. Yes, I Being Italian , my Teacher, I want to know the origin of the derogatory word Dego!
    Growing up I was constantly hearing how great Italian tires are. Dego through rain, dego through Snow, and dego through Mud, but when they go flat, they go Wop Wop Wop….I guess I had to hear it again!~
    We Italians can and do make fun of ourselves… It’s true!~

  57. cognation73 says: 63

    Mick or Mac?

    One’s an ethnic slur; the other’s a common nickname?

    What does hotforwords have to say about this etymological divide?

    Both have Gaelic origins. This is obvious enough. Like I said before, I have Scotch & Scotch-Irish roots (mother’s side). Gaul’s have always been pretty insular & Gaelic linguistic roots parallel each other pretty closely. I suspect that regional accents are responsible for the divide & I also suspect that “Mac” DOES mean “of” or “from” or is closely related. Feel free to prove me wrong.

    What I am curious about is where the Mac/Mc- suffix splintered off from the Irish side of the Gaelic divide–you don’t see many Irish-Gaelics with the “Mac/Mc-” prefix. You DO see “Mick” rolling around as an Irish-American nickname or, in earlier decades, as a slur.

    Thoughts, kids?

    • I always thought Mick came into parlance because so many Irishmen are called Micheal – not because of the Mc/Mac prefix… like Paddy, which is obviously down to the preponderance of Patricks in Eire…

      • That makes a certain amount of sense, particularly when you figure in the accent. I dunno, though, Michael is such a common name in Romantic, Gaelic & even Cyrillic languages, and with relatively minor variations throughout. Maybe I’m conflating a common Irish/Scotch-Irish given name with a similar-sounding modifier attached to Scottish clan names. Tricky.

  58. JD says: 62

    I don’t like this word very much, as I am Italian. But hey it is what it is.

    I have a word for you to investigate: Onomatopoeia. I would love to have you research this.
    Thanks!

  59. My friend at Burger King says, “Ask Marina to bend over. I’ll whopper!” :evil:

  60. POW! – when a bullet exits a gun barrel. WOP! – the gun backfired.

  61. POW – prisoner of war. WOP – worshiper of peace.

  62. SurfinRI says: 58

    I’m Swedish. In America the derogatory reference is “square head”, which I guess is characteristic of our typically angular jaw and noggin, but most people, I think, refer to us just as Swedes.

  63. stokesjrj1 says: 57

    You woke me , I am here

  64. rhl_4_bwp says: 56

    …Request a word…

    Well it is more of a phrase then a specific word. I would like to know where the phrase “Squeaky Clean” came from.

    Cheers.

  65. jvmiller03 says: 55

    I thought Guapo meant handsome….hmmm

    Devil and evil…….did one spawn from the other?

  66. cognation73 says: 54

    Gotta jam you, Marina:

    Mc/Mac is more of a scotch thang. There’s a lot of crossover within Gaelic cultures, but the prefix “Mc-” is more typically attached to Scottish surnames then to Irish surnames. I’ve got both Scotch & Scotch-Irish blood–my given name, Graham, is an old lowland Scottish surname & I am, for the time being the last place-holder for my old clan. Anyway, yeah, there’s inbreeding & cross-breeding and sheep and all that but I think you pulled a boner here, Marina. I’m only guessing, but I suspect that the old Gaelic/Scottish “Mac” (”Mc-”) probably means “of” or “from” in the old country. Given the fierce territoriality of my forbears, this makes a certain amount of sense.

    But hey, I could be wrong. Legend is that my clan lost a war back in the 12th century and next thing you know we’re in Nebraska.

    Cheers.

  67. cognation73 says: 53

    Here’s a REAL challenge:

    Where does the “word” come from. Not any old word. The real word, “word”!

    Word up!

  68. There is also a “wop petit,” a small Italian who lives near the French border, not to be confused with a “wapiti,” which is another word for “elk.”

  69. grandexandi says: 51

    what “birds and bees” has to do with sex?

  70. tabowers215 says: 50

    Hi Marina, I am from the Southern part of the United, formerly Confederate, States. Two things that tend to be used as derogatory terms about our Celtic heratige is REDNECK and CRACKER. Sadly, very few people know these terms did not orginate here in America, and REDNECK does not mean you have been working in the sun, and CRACKER has nothing to do with the color of our skin! Both terms came with us from the British Isles.
    People that showed defiance to the Church of England wore red scarves around their necks, and were know as REDNECKS. These people immigrated to the southern part of America, and the meaning of the word changed over the years.
    CRACKER was what the upper crust of Englands “City Dwellers” called the poor agrarian class of Enland, Scotland, and possibly Ireland, because they were always being bolsterous, drinking, and “Cracking” jokes and just not taking life serious.
    Have a great day!!

    • Inner city folk, call Whites Crackers because: Light colored, dry and tasteless.

      guys…….. like the PC -ness

    • I think “Redneck” is a purely American invention & fairly obvious. It is also an expression which, incidentally, I find very offensive. Skin low in melanin content tends to scorch when exposed to the sun for extended periods of time. I find it offensive to brand someone with a literal brand because they work long, hot sweaty hours under a broad, bright, distant & merciless star.

      “Cracker” is…well, that’s a bloody good expression to investigate.

      I mean, there’s no obvious connection to Scotch-Irish/Irish etymology & no obvious visceral connotation I can think of. This has to be something very clever. Rude, probably, but clever.

      • I refer you to a book by Grady McWhiney, Cracker Culture: Celtic Ways in the Old South (Tuscaloosa: University of Alabama Press, 1988). This are a couple of exerts from Wikapeidia:

        CRACKER
        The term “cracker” was in use during Elizabethan times to describe braggarts. The original root of this is the Middle English word crack, meaning “entertaining conversation” (One may be said to “crack” a joke); this term and the alternate spelling “craic” are still in use in Ireland and Scotland. It is documented in Shakespeare’s King John (1595): “What cracker is this same that deafs our ears with this abundance of superfluous breath?”

        By the 1760s, this term was in use by the English in the British North American colonies to refer to Scots-Irish settlers in the south. A letter to the Earl of Dartmouth reads: “I should explain to your Lordship what is meant by Crackers; a name they have got from being great boasters; they are a lawless set of rascalls on the frontiers of Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas, and Georgia, who often change their places of abode”. A similar usage was that of Charles Darwin in The Origin of Species, to refer to “Virginia squatters” (illegal settlers) (p. 35).

        And on RED NECK:
        The National Covenant and The Solemn League and Covenant (a.k.a. “Covenanters”) signed documents stating that Scotland desired a Presbyterian Church government, and rejected the Church of England as their official church (no Anglican congregation was ever accepted as the official church in Scotland). What the Covenanters rejected was episcopacy — rule by bishops — the preferred form of church government in England. Many of the Covenanters signed these documents using their own blood, and many in the movement began wearing red pieces of cloth around their neck to signify their position to the public. They were referred to as rednecks. See ”Albion’s Seed, Four British Folkways in America” David Hackett Fischer (New York: Oxford University Press) 1989, pp. 757-758, citing the Oxford English Dictionary OED). The OED cites a source from 1830-31 where the term is applied to certain American Presbyterians. Large numbers of these Scottish Presbyterians migrated from their lowland Scottish home to Ulster(the northern province of Ireland) and soon settled in considerable numbers in North America throughout the 18th century. Some emigrated directly from Scotland to the American colonies in the late 18th and early 19th-centuries as a result of the Lowland Clearances. This etymological theory holds that since many Scots-Irish Americans and Scottish Americans who settled in Appalachia and the South were Presbyterian, the term was bestowed upon them and their descendants.

        Of course, the terms have become Americanized, and very few people use these terms in their orginal context anymore.

    • k00biak says: 50.3

      Let’s not forget my favorite derrogitory word for my ethnicity (caucasian): Peckerwood!

  71. roadrunrnch says: 49

    TEACH, Good use of the word; stint . you caught me again

  72. Hey , I love your videos , there great! keep it going with them !

    and also , i was wondering where the word ” Tush ” came from, i think it sounds funnny haha.

    please do this word just for me :)
    i really wana know where it came from .

    Thanks :) :mrgreen: :lol: :eek: :razz:

  73. I love you.

    Also, where does the word Legerdemain come from? I always loved this word. maybe you can include the words Prestidigitation and Thaumaturgy, which even my spellcheck thinks is fake.

  74. roadrunrnch says: 46

    “Recent Comments” looks like a flat tire sounds like, going down the road.

  75. i am requesting the word ‘hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia’

    i know what it means, but i don’t know why

    it’s not ironic (in the CORRECT use of the word), but funny~

    so thank you!

    and i love your videos. it’s a fun and easy way to learn

    if only my english classes were like this.

  76. Well I’ve thought about this one for a while I get the idea but I want to know who came up with it.

    “Snaggletooth”

    It’s been itching at me and I would love it if you could look this up for me.

    Thanks :mrgreen:

    -A Big Fan

  77. saaandr0 says: 43

    And I would also like the word “paradox”
    Greez

  78. In the eyes of our Hispanic friends those of us with fair skin are gringos. There is a word for you Marina! Gringo. What are the origins of Gringo?

  79. saaandr0 says: 41

    Hey Marina, I would like if you can describe the word “massacre,” I think it’s interesting.
    Thanks Bye

    • I’m not Marina (I have abetter beard, she has nicer legs) but I can maybe offe some starting places on this one. Or possibly finsihing places. “Mass” is, in modern usage, a unit of measure: to wit, it is a way of measuring the relative graviational pull of an object. It is probably Roman in origin and the connections to the quasi-sexual/quasi-cannabilistic ritual celebration of Christ’s consumption likely have something to do with the root. I’m not sure how. “Acre” is also a unit of measure, Greek, I’m guessing. It’s a unit by which we divde up flat spatial areas. It’s very old. Both of these sub-units are measurements and the first, especially, has a strong implication involving violence. The some of the parts seems to suggest a vast bloodletting (I’d trace the Roman here) over a vast physical space & in great volume.

  80. djb28 says: 40

    LOL. Thank you. My landlord is an Italian and when my neighbor moved out, He got in to a fight with him. On the walls he wrote WHAP! WHAP! WHAP! Everywhere. This was 2 years ago. Was this spelling correct for 2006? HAHA

    How about the word MALAKA? Greek boss called me that a lot!

  81. afanti1 says: 39

    hi,i am a chinese. i come here for the first time. i feel you are a beautiful ,ripe woman,i love you。 i wish i can learn some from here,from you。would you help me, thanks。glad to meet you。you are so nice ,hhhhhhhhhh。

  82. rimbaud says: 38

    WOG = Worthy Oriental Gentleman

  83. afwpi says: 37

    As I am an Italian, aside from Wop, I remember being called a guinni and a Dago.

    Richard

    While we are on slang names, where was the word “smuck” derived from?

    • With a word like Smuck, it’s gotta be good! er….

    • pagedoll says: 37.2

      schmuck
      “contemptible person,” 1892, from E.Yiddish shmok, lit. “penis,” from Old Pol. smok “grass snake, dragon.” Not the same word as Ger. schmuck “jewelry, adornments,” which is related to Low Ger. smuck “supple, tidy, trim, elegant,” and related to O.N. smjuga “slip, step through” (see smock). In Jewish homes, the word was “regarded as so vulgar as to be taboo” [Leo Rosten, "The Joys of Yiddish," 1968] and Lenny Bruce wrote that saying it on stage got him arrested on the West Coast “by a Yiddish undercover agent who had been placed in the club several nights running to determine if my use of Yiddish terms was a cover for profanity.” Euphemized as schmoe, which was the source of Al Capp’s cartoon strip creature the schmoo.
      Help some? :smile:

    • greenbush says: 37.3

      WOW, I’ve not heard that one in a while,”he is a smuck.” That takes me back. My Mom used to call very upper class snobby person, “Pete Snoot.”

  84. bobsully says: 36

    Mutt I suppose. A real American blend. :grin:

  85. roadrunrnch says: 35

    http://www.MySimpleOnlineBusiness.com . DELETED THE TEACHER TOO. They deleted me , but Teach too? WTF with these sites? They are too good for the gutter snipes on this site?? >qp<

  86. geronimo says: 34

    I think you must have meant the Scottish, but you said Irish. I haven’t read below yet, so I am probably not the first to point this out. I am a Heinz 57. French, Welsh, Austrian, Jewish, and Mexican.

  87. W.A.S.P. – I understand that this ethnic group is on the endangered species list here in New Jersey.

  88. georgio says: 31

    The Italians have all the luck, great food, the mob looking after them, and two women to support them!

  89. 101st!

    Excellent video, Marina. 5 stars.

    Harveycasual, congratulations to you !

    My ethnicities are so numerous that it’s safe to say I’m a classic “Heinz 57.” This is particularly applicable to me because my grandfather was born in Pittsburgh as was my youngest sibling, and it’s the closest metropolitan area to where I spent my early childhood. When I was a cub scout we got to tour the Heinz factory, each of us receiving a tiny green plastic “pickle pin” to wear proudly on our uniforms. The Heinz factory is in Pittsburgh as well.

  90. you can mop for me anytime…lord knows the floor could use it… :sad:

    well, i’m mustly a mutt, but my grandfather was a full-blooded Spaniard, so that makes me one-quarter spic. The rest of this mongrel mx is frog, limey, and gawd knows what else…my mother’s got something going on the geneology front, so maybe i’ll figure it out one day…

    oh – i also got a mash note from a Marina today from a russian bride website…unfortunately, she’s 26 & brunette…dang gorgeous, though… :cool:

  91. syeira2105 says: 28

    Marina, I would like to request paradox and ganache. I don’t know much about paradox, but I know ganache is french for “jowl”. Thanks!

  92. capman911 says: 27

    Marina could you please add some more reply buttons to our comments sections? Pretty please with orange julious on top.

  93. My favorite teacher has let me down! Why the easy homework, Marina?

    Anyway, I’m caucasian (sp?) so slang words for me would be whitey, white bread, the usual. However, by heritage I’m mostly Irish, so there would also be words like patty, bog-trotter, catlick, and harp.

    Heh, don’t mean to seem rude but can I be teachers pet?

  94. Hey!

    Can you tell me where the phrase ‘Blue murder’ comes from?
    Or the word ‘Cream’
    Or the word ‘Explode’

    Thanks! :D

  95. ianonmac says: 24

    Your recent video was “pants”, I mean about pants! But seriously the explanation makes me wonder the origin of the word “loon” meaning a stupid person or fool… or maybe “loon” comes from “pantaloon” or “lunatic” which may be completely unrelated. Marina, will you investigate?

  96. tch1010 says: 23

    Marina,

    Why does guapo mean handsome in spanish and a thug in Italian :???:

  97. eddydraks says: 22

    I’m Portuguese and we refer to each other as Porks. I think the reason is because there use to be an insault that little kids came up with for us which is Pork&Cheese.

  98. dastheboss2 says: 21

    That would be both kraut and injun

  99. raffo says: 20

    About the homework, that’s easy for me: Krauts… :mrgreen:

  100. theswede42 says: 19

    Hi Marina, I have been told from my grandfather that when he came this country from italy that they called him a WOP because he had no paper to come here. so on his folder was printed WOP meaning with out papers. being there were alot of italians coming into the US at that time, people here were outraged. meaning illegal.for the ones who did;nt have papers

  101. captainjack says: 18

    Ok how does everyone find that Marina has updated her blog so quickly? I get this email update like a day later. Firefox blog update is also slow.

    • She needs help……..maybe She needs to get People. Any voluntears to work for free?/

    • capman911 says: 18.2

      Jack go to here abracadara video and watch it again. :shock:

    • capman911 says: 18.3

      We go to her home page on this site and keep hitting F5 to reload the page. When a new video comes up then we are the first to see it. :cool:

    • pagedoll says: 18.4

      My screen name? Easy. I have a friend named Page and she is an absolute doll. pagedoll. :grin: Now, keep in mind I live SoCal and good lookin’ woman are a dime a dozen. So when I say doll what I mean is this girl has a heart of gold, skin as radiant as he sun, eyes as blue as the deepest ocean, a beautiful smile from ear to ear and a face that requires not a drop of makeup. As a matter fact, when she does wear makeup(very rarely) it dosen’t make her look any better, only older. :wink:

      • Yes F5 is the same as hitting the refresh button

      • Ok I am glade you straitened that out. I thought you were a lady. I was going to make a pass at you, no just kidding :lol: :lol:

      • No, I picked the avatar for the same reason.

      • Your lucky you didn’t. I probably would have toyed with you as far as I could have takin’ it just for fun. :grin:

      • Must be like Marina. She doesn’t need any makeup at all. :smile:

      • Dime a dozen is so very true. But its so hard to find one with brains. Most of them fail my Futurama test (Head in a jar. see episode 15 season 3). I dated a robot

        That’s nice you have a friend like that and you honor her with your screen name. Your description of her is driving me insane. So other than her looks what other basic facts that are impressive? Im intrigued about her heart of gold. Can you give us five basic facts about your friend?

      • Yea Mike I wanted to make a pass at PD a long time ago. I figured out at the time he mention about the time he talked about his sand car.

        PD, That would have been funny if you let Mike on. I once did something similar to a good friend that said he could tell a person sex from conversation on the internet. I had him fooled for about 2 months. Then I was the one that gave up with the experiment and let him know the truth. I learned how to do this experiment from a friend’s wife that help her husband do the same trick on a group of women (33 of them) that thought they knew how to read into someones text. It was kind of an unfair advantage that he has his wife help him with the difficult questions. We where even able to fake the photos. This was to show you can’t trust the person on the other end of the keyboard. We where experimenting this back in the days when people where experimenting with online dating. Many of those date turned out horrific. Many people where educated from these experiments. Who knows what good was done from this experiment. I see now days most people are a bit more cautious.

      • Are you guys crazy!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you know how long it takes to look like your not wearing any makeup?? My Wife can’t go out to the mail with out looking like She just popped up………. looking prefect. Any of you married ………..to HOT women? Clothing, Spas, Tanning, Nails, etc. Like owning a sports car, Drive for 1 hour = 4 hours working on Her. But for putting up with Me , Its cheap$$

      • PD

        Oh, believe me, when I say no makeup, I mean no makeup. When you find a girl that looks just as good the minute they wake up as any other time in the day. Well, ’nuff said.

        Wow what a lucky girl. I hope she knows this.
        I bet she spends a lot of time beating the boy back with a baseball bat. :mrgreen:

      • Roadrunmch, No im not married to any hot woman yet. I prefer to rent sports cars and lets someone else pay for the maintenance. Some day I might buy one. Naw.. who am I kidding. Im a boater.. I might have to look into a offshore racing boat. yea, that could be fun. :smile:

      • Warren says: 18.4.11

        pagedoll,
        I’ve always wondered at the comments that you’ve made about Marina.
        Now it all makes sense.
        Good Spy tactics. Ever watch “Burn Notice”?

    • capman911 says: 18.5

      No————not all day just most of it. I do have house work I do while my wifes at work. I mop, wash and dry clothes run the dishwasher, fold clothes, let the dog out when I can catch the little bastard. I cook most of the evening meals. I would make someone a good house wife. :lol: :lol:

    • pagedoll says: 18.6

      Well, lets see. Oh, ok, shes chairitalble although she has not alot give, she doesn’t put up with jerks just because they have a wheelbarrow full of cash. Believe me, shes had her fair share of rides in ferraris and lambos and hasn’t dated a one of ‘em. She always thinks about what she says(unlike me) before she says it. She never complains about anything, even when theres times she could and even should. Last but not least, she carries herself with the utmost of elegance in any situaion. Hows that? :grin:

      • i’ve so-o-o got to move to SoCal…

        when my kids hit college…

        dang, that’s a long wait!…:roll: :sad:

      • PD, OMG is there a more perfect gal on this planet? She thinks before she speak, thats a sign of good intelligence. She knows what a jerk is and knows how do deal with them. A heart of gold yes. Not a lot to give? PD she seems to be giving a lot every day whether we know it or not. Oh and elegant in any situation. Wow, is miss Page for real? Its sound like your speak of a mythical Greek goddess.
        Im in so much awe and yet have not spoke to, or heard her, nor seen her yet. Just only the words of your description of her. Who says Goddesses no longer roam the earth?
        Well this is good to hear. I hope Miss Page has a great and wonderful life. I hope she touches many lives for the better of the people in this world.
        Tnks PD… :smile:

        Annuddermale, I might be moving to SoCal this winter. I want to move to San Fran, but work (and the Gov.) wants me near Long Beach or Del Ray. I just can’t get excited to move in the LA area. I’ve been shot at twice. Once in Long Beach and once in Lakewood. I just been on Google maps all day looking at areas. Much has changed and some has not since I lived there. I’ve been shopping for a new yacht and finding a lot of good deal in SoCal. Oh decisions decisions. :neutral:

      • shopping for a new yacht?…gawd…and here i am tryin’ to see if i can stretch that half-gallon of milk enough to get enough for another cup of java…

        lol…

        oh, and i am in total agreement with your assessment of pagedoll’s doll… :smile:

      • LOL Annuddermale. Now is the time to buy a new boat because we are in a recession. People are putting up their yachts up for sale in record numbers (Cheap too). The problem now is because of the recession no one wants to buy anything. Kind of a catch 22.

        Ya I don’t think I want to hear anymore great things about PD friend. I could easily fall in love with this goddess named Page.

    • capman911 says: 18.7

      I just now got the video in my e-mail at 9:13pm easten time. And we have put in 188 comments so far. :???:

    • pagedoll says: 18.9

      Sooo, did you get my five basic facts? :???:

    • pagedoll says: 18.10

      Be on the lookout around 1:30-6pm june 17th. :wink:

    • As The World Turns. Love triangle/quadrangle/NOT. captainjack you are very outspoken today on your perceptions on Miss pd through her words. I try to do that with Miss HFW when she is going through her video, looking for deceptive eyes. Trying to trick us dear students into thinking it is 1,2, or 3. Oh yes, its her job, to trick us when she knows the truth. No offense to Miss HFW. What I mean is, sometimes people blink their eyes after they told a lie, to revert back to the truth in their mind. I use that technique to spot truth changers. Ok, back to ex-President Clinton, “I did not have sex…” starting at 6:34.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV6yhEbEw9c

      • Well when asked where Mr. PD got his screen name he was describing his friend Miss Page. See is so pretty she looked like a doll to him. Pretty girls are a dime a dozen. So of what I know of PD, I thought there might be more to the story about Miss Page. As it turned out there was much more to this lady than meets the eye.

        As for your theory of blinking eyes you first have to observe them telling a lie. Then you have to observe them telling the truth. Then you sometimes can use that technique on people. But it doesn’t always work when the person knows of this technique. With proper basic training one can pass a simple polygraph test. Eye movements are very hard to fake. Then again with training this can easily be overcome. As for Marina, I don’t even try to see if I think she is fooling us. It just a game and I like playing. Win or loose. Sometimes is just better and more fun to loose. Or in other words is the journey and not the destination. Ok so did you see Marina’s eyes blink? :wink:

    • pagedoll says: 18.12

      Oh, you would fall in love for sure, many do. I did, but in a different way. Ya see, we’ve known each other for quite some time, over 15 years, and well, why wreck a good thing with complicated emotions.Ya know? My main goal is to spoil her any way I can ever chance I get. The last time was a trip to Vegas this year for my b-day. I blew her mind when we opened the door to the 1500sq ft suite I got for the weekend at the Palazzo. We’re talkin’ 2 bath, 3 flat screens, jucuz tub, shower for six- the whole nine. I was even impressed, which is rare! I don’t know if you’ve ever been clubin’ in vegas but the lines to get in can be ridiculously long, needless to say , as soon as the eye in the sky gets a look at pagey, the door man comes over to us and right to the front we go. Anyways, I love it because most guys her age(24) can’t pull tricks out of the hat like I can. :wink: To put it mildly, I was the greatest weekend -of-my-life. I could go on and on but I’ll stop, you must be cursin’ me all to hell by now. :lol: …and I know what you’re askin’, Did we use the jucuzzi ?and the answer is yes…and yes, we both forgot to bring our swim suites….loves it!! :lol:

      • “Oh, you would fall in love for sure,..” Oh you didn’t have to tell me that. Oh you just love making me drool all over myself. Oh well it gets the heart rate up which is healthy.

        I’ve had girlfriends that I knew for years. Your right! Why wreck a perfectly good relationship with emotions. I always called it girlfriends with privileges. Most of them are far away now.

        I’ve yet to visit Vegas. Never really was interested in slot machines. But now its a different place. I might go there someday. 1500sqft suite! wow big place. I don’t think I’ve spent the night in a place that big. I’ve been in a shower for two. I almost got lost! :mrgreen: I was on my friends 55ft yacht about a week ago during that bad storm I was in and he had two staterooms. I slept in the guest room which was bigger than my salon/galley/stateroom combined. He only had one flat screen connected to satellite (Even my best friend has a smaller yacht with 3 flat screens). Oh and no hot tub. If he had a hot tub I would be on this blog right now.. I would paying rent to live in his hot tub. So lesson learned here is if I go visit Vegas bring a hot date with me. Ok I got ya.

        Yea Im about cursin you by now. :evil: :evil: :mrgreen: You luckys sun of a gun! Oh pardon me I have to wipe off the drool from my chin. hehehehe. Forgot the swim suites! OMG!!!. You see what I said. Friend with privileges. Hot damn! Oh Im so jealous. My last b-day was…. humm….. I don’t think I had one. Yea I might have been working on the cruise ship at the time. Yea sound great but when you do it every day and your stuck with grumpy old ladies its not that fun.
        Thanks for sharing your story PD. You take care of Page and watch her back, which I know your already doing.

        __/)__

  102. evansawyer says: 17

    “guapo” in some spanish speaking contries might mean bully, but it’s most common meaning, at least here in México is “handsome” and “guapa” means “pretty”.
    I know you specialize in English philology but… Is there a particular reason for “Guapo” meaning both things? :mrgreen:

  103. capman911 says: 14

    Marina that blue top goes so wonderful with your blue eyes. :smile:

  104. videoist says: 13

    guapa = beautiful (female)
    guapo = handsome (male)

    spanish / catalan / italian

    from a paddy (irish)!!
    from st. patrick.. paddy’s day

  105. capman911 says: 12

    Ok the comments just disappeared. I know I cleaned out my cache. I’ll have to reboot again :mad: