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Hara-Kiri, what some people think is called hari-kari… what is the origin of this word?

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  1. leonard on November 19th, 2008 9:05 am

    You sure are the cutest. Is that a t-shirt or tank top? Word request for this random lesson, we say “here kity,kity,kity” for calling the felines and was wondering if it is related :lol: My dad brought back guns and a sword from Japan; he was with the first troops to march through Tokyo. Love you all nice music, oh my God, I forgot about cat guts they use for strings on their music instruments=========rated 100%

  2. thicepecin on November 17th, 2008 9:37 am

    lol I was hoping her belly button would start talking in the beginning, ahh if only. Marina and hotforprofits have such great bodies. Good job ladies keep it up … no pun intended =\

  3. protac6 on August 26th, 2008 9:17 am

    Also Japanese would stab themselves in the stomach to also stab someone behind them. Talk about sacrifice. :???:

    foxbow15 replied on August 27th, 2008 6:29 am:

    nah, that’s just stupid :???:

    protac6 replied on August 27th, 2008 8:35 am:

    Yeah, I would just turn around.

  4. private barley on August 26th, 2008 5:03 am

    actually the japanese hara kiri was suicide but they would stab themself in the belly and if they were fortunate to have served there master well, they would be allowed a friend to cut their head off at the point of massive pain from stabbing himself. this was done in tenko and a few other documentries. the samurai’s whole life was to prepare for death and so if he had done something dishonorable or as u say lost a battle yes ritual suicide would of been done.

    the katana was the samurais weapon of choice and is still a beautiful weapon it took 6 months to build and was a work of art and brilliance.

    mike

  5. tedt on July 8th, 2008 9:11 am

    When I did the experiment of ice skating downhill on the street :cool: , with shoes and some alcohol :roll: , I kari-karied my nose :cry: .
    (please don´t try that one —–> mayor shock)

  6. matalexwolf on July 7th, 2008 5:18 pm

    I think the blade was incerted on the left, moved across to the right then with a inch or two straight up. Follwed by ones head being sliced off……all in a good days work for some!! :shock:

  7. ahszi on July 1st, 2008 3:36 am

    Right. The word “Seppuku (切腹)” is more commonly used by the Japanese. And when I’ll talk to a Japanese person, he or she is more likely to understand it.

    In our country (Philippines) and some parts of the world, people still use and understand the word “Hara-Kiri (腹切り).” But for some foreigners (including me) who loves to study Japanese may still or will understand the word “Seppuku” and use this word, instead of “Hara-kiri.”

    Speaking of suicide (oh, Jesus Christ! :shock: ) by the way, any lessons about “Russian Roulette” and how true it is? Please discuss it to us, Marina. Thanks for your time. Mwah! :smile:

    -from Ahszi
    (you can pronounce it as “A-si” or “A-zi”, it doesn’t matter)

  8. runawayscott on June 30th, 2008 9:23 pm

    Seppuku (I think I spelled it right)

    misterc replied on July 1st, 2008 12:03 am:

    seppuku - is correct. I first heard the word in the TV mini-series Shogun.

    PS I needed to check out the spelling myself. :smile:

  9. freak on June 27th, 2008 6:47 am

    haii maria
    mne o4enj panrawilis twoi video
    u menja nebolschaja prosba
    mosche na RUSSKAM tosche delatj??? :mrgreen:
    plzzz mb freaK

  10. hutchiee on June 25th, 2008 6:11 am

    Nice change-up at the end with Marina-flashbacks.

    Is that the same shirt you wore in your stretching video last week? I haven’t gone back to check if it is, but this could be a first - you wore the same clothes twice in a video?

  11. matilda on June 25th, 2008 5:54 am

    Hello, Marina.
    I’m so glad that you picked a Japanese word.
    I had no idea that English speakers know the word hara-kiri.
    Actually, neither hara-kiri or seppuku are used in daily Japanese. They both sound old, even seppuku. (Part of the reason for it is that not many people kill themselves like that these days.)
    I always enjoy your lessons.
    Bye!

  12. the shaun on June 24th, 2008 11:21 pm

    First time I ever heard of Hara-Kiri is while playing the video game “Mortal Kombat: Armageddon”. Once you suffer a defeat, the other opponent is able to do a violent finishing move, or “Fatality” — however you can stop that by killing yourself, or performing “Hara-Kiri”

  13. masco82 on June 24th, 2008 9:02 pm

    sepeku.. thats gotta hurt…but its the answer

  14. marylander on June 24th, 2008 7:07 pm

    Sorry for my late comment on seppuku. I’ve GOT to get to my mail earlier!

  15. marylander on June 24th, 2008 7:01 pm

    Seppuku is the proper approved Japanese word for ritual suicide.

  16. roadrunrnch on June 24th, 2008 6:06 pm

    NEW VIDEO

  17. ibanez15player on June 24th, 2008 5:06 pm

    do the word pussy scince it has many meaings

    captainjack replied on June 24th, 2008 5:21 pm:

    HFW has already done the word”Pussy” on the Maxim Radio show. :mrgreen:
    Check it out and Enjoy!! :twisted: :twisted:

  18. kenneth555 on June 24th, 2008 4:00 pm

    Seppuku is the accepted or honored word. The cut is made with a plunge on the left side, cutting across and then a 90 degree turn up the right side to cut the renal artery. It is an extremely painful way to die and usually involves a second who uses a full length katana to sever the head. Often the head was severed the moment the seppuku blade was held to the abdomen. The best cut for the second would be to sever the head properly, however not completely because it would be improper to have it roll away. The unthinkable would be to miss and need to do it twice, however this has happened.

    Probably geisha was the first word to the west.

    roachmeistercom replied on June 24th, 2008 5:39 pm:

    See, this is why I much prefer our old European chivalry to the honor we see in Japan. That’s just grotesque!

    Or Olde Tayles of Yore where we learn that the correct way to get a poisonous supernatural snake to release you is to set a woman in a barrel of milk and have her hang a breast over the edge, then set the victim in a barrel of vinegar and station a swordsman between the two to cut the snake in half when it leaps for the woman’s (presumably honey sweetened) breast.

    “The Story of Caradoc”

    Much more visually appealing than seppuku…. :shock:

  19. vaniljeis on June 24th, 2008 3:38 pm

    Hi, I’ve been a fan of yours for a couple of months now, but only very recently signed up here on your website.

    Anyway, I was kinda hoping you’d clear something up for me, as it’s something that I’ve been wondering about for quite some time now. Where does rucksack come from? Any clues?

  20. elvenfunk on June 24th, 2008 3:11 pm

    Where is the word Sarcastic coming from? Sarcasm? Does it have anything to do with flesh, because Sarca in greek means flesh!
    please investigate my sweet teacher! :wink: :!:
    Sarcasm! I can’t find it anywhere.

    elvenfunk replied on June 24th, 2008 3:13 pm:

    By the way, Woof Woof! You are pretty! kisses! xxx

  21. roadrunrnch on June 24th, 2008 2:52 pm

    Gentle Men
    Will you Please, point out the element of life?
    Or the combination of , to create Life.
    I am just to ignorant to see it.
    Actinium - Ac
    Aluminum - Al
    Americium - Am
    Antimony - Sb
    Argon - Ar
    Arsenic - As
    Astatine - At
    Barium - Ba
    Berkelium - Bk
    Beryllium - Be
    Bismuth - Bi
    Boron - B
    Bromine - Br
    Cadmium - Cd
    Caesium - Cs
    Calcium - Ca
    ……………………….Califorfnium - Cf
    Carbon - C
    Cerium - Ce
    Chlorine - Cl
    Chromium - Cr
    Cobalt - Co
    Copper - Cu
    Curium - Cm
    Dysprosium - Dy
    Einsteinium - Es
    Erbium - Er
    Europium - Eu
    Fermium - Fm
    Fluorine - F
    Francium - Fr
    Gadolinium - Gd
    Gallium - Ga
    Germanium - Ge
    Gold - Au
    Hafnium - H
    Helium - He
    Holmium - Ho
    Hydrogen - H
    Indium - In
    Iodine - I
    Iridium - Ir
    Iron - Fe
    Krypton - Kr
    Lanthanum - La
    Lawrencium - Lr
    Lead - Pb
    Lithium - Li
    Lutetium - Lu
    Magnesium - Mg
    Manganese - Mn
    Meitnerium - Mt
    Mendelevium - Md
    Mercury - Hg
    Molybdenum - Mo
    Neodymium - Nd
    Neon - Ne
    Neptunium - Np
    Nickel - Ni
    Niobium - Nb
    Nitrogen - N
    Nobelium - No
    Osmium - Os
    Oxygen - O
    Palladium - Pd
    Phosphorus - P
    Platinum - Pt
    Plutonium - Pu
    Polonium - Po
    Potassium - K
    Praseodymium - Pr
    Promethium - Pm
    Protactinium - Pa
    Radium - Ra
    Radon - Rn
    Rhenium - Re
    Rhodium - Rh
    Rubidium - Rb
    Ruthenium - Ru
    Samarium - Sm
    Scandium - Sc
    Selenium - Se
    Silicon - Si
    Silver - Ag
    Sodium - Na
    Strontium - Sr
    Sulphur - S
    Tantalum - Ta
    Technetium - Tc
    Tellurium - Te
    Terbium - Tb
    Thallium - Tl
    Thorium - Th
    Thulium - Tm
    Tin - Sn
    Titanium - Ti
    Tungsten - W
    Unnilhexium - Unh
    Unniloctium - Uno
    Unnilpentium - Unp
    Unnilquadium - Unq
    Unnilseptium - Uns
    Uranium - U
    Vanadium - V
    Xenon - Xe
    Ytterbium - Yb
    Yttrium - Y
    Zinc - Zn
    Zirconium - Zr
    RRR
    Old stupid guy.

    roadrunrnch replied on June 24th, 2008 2:57 pm:

    Sorry Marina
    I did not stack it like that . the site reconfigured it?

    RRR
    The Instigator

    ArgonTheAware replied on June 24th, 2008 3:31 pm:

    Being elementally inclined :wink: Argon may be noble and 12% of the atmosphere it’s not necessary for life. :lol:

    Carbon, Hydrogen and Oxygen are the elements the are essential for life.

    melikadothechacha replied on June 24th, 2008 4:57 pm:

    Isn’t it amazing how stars produced all this stuff so we could name it? :mrgreen:
    Sodium and Calcium are also life essentials to us vertebrate critters.

    melikadothechacha replied on June 24th, 2008 5:00 pm:

    I spat out a loop of sound similar to what you sense undergoing anesthesia. called it nitrous oxide. I guess technically it’s a trance loop. :mrgreen:

    roadrunrnch replied on June 24th, 2008 7:23 pm:

    OK OK OK OK OK:

    Words are fucking us up. lets try.

    A=All that is
    0=absolute nothing
    G=GOD ( unknown value )
    ……0+0=0
    ……A+0=A
    ……0+A=A
    ……0+0+A=A
    ……A+A+0=A2
    ……0+0+0=0
    .
    synopsis:
    Is as expected ……0+0 always equals, 0
    and by adding A or 0 to any equation the
    out come is the same.

    Were as adding, G + 0= A and A + A = A
    The out come goes in flux.

    …G is of unknown value [ origin ] and can not be comprehended ,
    With out the addition of G or A the out come remains static.@= 0.

    Did [ A ] or [ G ] come from Nothing ? 0 + ? = A
    [AG]=Ag

    RRR
    The Done
    There for can be only given an value of ……

    ArgonTheAware replied on June 24th, 2008 7:42 pm:

    How is that nothing? At the top it’s mathematical symbolism, if you want to break it apart into it’s elements then it’s a lot of other things and those are also things. But show me where it becomes nothing. Any example you can give will always contain something so your whole premise is invalid to start with

    roadrunrnch replied on June 24th, 2008 8:30 pm:

    Argon;
    [Any example you can give will always contain something]

    That is what I have been saying,
    Nothing with out [ ? ] will remain nothing..
    Something is always somrthing.
    Nothing with out any something at all is nothing.

    My post was ” look into her eyes and tell me you don’t see GOD.”

    So then the Guys stated that Marinas Eyes evolved out of NOTHING
    not a god.
    THE Vast empty ,
    NO something at all.
    Not a Molecue . NOTHING!
    Mostly no god.

    RRR
    clueless

    melikadothechacha replied on June 24th, 2008 8:32 pm:

    I see what you are getting at.
    Absolutes. The mathmetician
    in me understands the need
    for proofs to be exact to be
    considered valid. This all
    falls down because the rules
    are different in physics. The
    physicist isn’t interested in
    an exact outcome, knowing
    that hysteresis is inherent
    when applying math calcs
    to what a physical system
    is actually doing. Absolute
    proof to a physicist is still
    going to be plus or minus
    a few points as compared
    to the calculus.

    God has not been
    proven, or disproven,
    mathematically, or
    through physics.

    Doesn’t mean it isn’t
    possible, just very
    improbable.

    ArgonTheAware is
    correct in that the
    example of logic
    you used in your
    example isn’t clear
    you do need to
    qualify premises
    with words, as in
    some, few, many,
    etc. to know if a
    fallacy of logic exists
    in a derived premise.

    Like Feud said,
    Sometimes a cigar
    is just a cigar! :mrgreen:

    ArgonTheAware replied on June 24th, 2008 8:44 pm:

    Oh I figured that there had to be a fundamental flaw in there somewhere since whoever said that something can evolve out of nothing is guilty of horribly reducing the subject. Besides being blind to the divine if they can’t see the infinite depths in Marina’s eyes

    pennsyltucky9 replied on June 24th, 2008 11:40 pm:

    Hi Argon.

    Nobody said that except roadrunrnch. Anyone could see that the elements that made up our planet were obviously present when life began as microbial cells in the primordial ocean. He’s pretending that that’s all that is known because that’s all he knows. This discussion has beeen evolving for 3 videos. Go back and check through all the comments in “HOT” and “MUTT” vids for the whole sequence.

    micheldiego replied on June 24th, 2008 3:44 pm:

    H20, CH4, NH3, and H2 are suficient:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller-Urey_experimen t

    ArgonTheAware replied on June 24th, 2008 4:11 pm:

    I left out Nitrogen, but the others you mentioned are compounds and can be combined from the other elements

    roadrunrnch replied on June 24th, 2008 4:24 pm:

    H20, CH4, NH3, and H2 are sufficient:

    OK……..and Who [ what ] built the machine
    Where did H20, CH4, NH3, and H2 come from????????
    pooFF??? Out of the ether. where did the ether come from.

    Why is God coming form ( ) any harder to take the your idea?

    RRR
    The Dimm

    roadrunrnch replied on June 24th, 2008 4:35 pm:

    Your mind can NOT comprehend , ” Nothing.”
    The vastness of NOTHING is enough to make you insane to conceive.
    Try think of nothing……if you are thinking of in the blackness of nothing?

    Wrong that is something. Absents of all Thought. Energy, Matter.
    ……….>NOTHING<………

    ArgonTheAware replied on June 24th, 2008 4:58 pm:

    Try not to confuse the terms since the cosmos is at they say in Zen “Neti Neti” or Not This, Not That” but both and neither.

    http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=44612365&s ize=l

    But that also includes and enfold the manifest domain so you have to keep them in perspective of which you’re dealing with the absolute or the relativem the insanity comes from confusing them.

    melikadothechacha replied on June 24th, 2008 5:09 pm:

    absolute zero: the temperature where all motion and time stops.
    the coldest achieved in the labs is within a few millionths of a degree difference. To produce a true absolute zero result, it is estimated, would require all of the energy in the solar system!
    And don’t forget, empty vacouos space is rampant with brownian motion currents, which act with a physical force, produced by the creation and subsequent destruction of sub atomic particles. :mrgreen:
    Whatever happened to Bill Nye the Science guy?

    micheldiego replied on June 24th, 2008 5:42 pm:

    About who built the machine you did not read the link:
    the machine just “simulate lightning through the atmosphere”

    Then you are confusing 1) the eye evolution 2) the life aparition, 3) the universe creation.
    1) I think you already had an answer on the eye.
    2) Here you see (with your own eyes) how easy the life apparition is. If you want to better understand (once you read the link), you could eventually investigate order from noise, and chaos theory, by googling it you will find out how disorder can make organisation easier and how inespected results can appear in a deterministic system.
    3) If you really care about the universe creation, I let somebodyelse get the info to give you some insight, don’t want to argue till the end of time on different matters.

    About my mind comprehending nothing, I find it rather easy. I have even experienced it, just before being born I was nothing, so I know perfectly what it is. And I don’t see what is the link here between “nothing” and god or etymology?

    roadrunrnch replied on June 24th, 2008 8:55 pm:

    ChaCha has given me the answer I needed.
    Most are not able to comperhen the value of 0
    They will aways try to add something to nothing.
    For enstance ;
    “About my mind comprehending nothing, I find it rather easy. I have even experienced it, just before being born I was nothing,” ( See what I am talking about? )
    No, you were something just not a human . You were and are a lot of something. 0=0 aways

    RRR
    The 0

    ArgonTheAware replied on June 24th, 2008 9:08 pm:

    A long way to go from the 3rd person perspective of chemistry to the 1st person of mathematical abstraction to end up in the 2nd person of the divine in Marina’s eyes.

    roadrunrnch replied on June 25th, 2008 10:30 am:

    I am responding here because I am to lazy to find the OP.
    Your response of time starts with my birth and ends with my death?
    I would point you to Solipsism, These are my thoughts too.

    I am, by looking back at our posts, not arguing the same point as you. I am trying to point out the spark point of time and all matter.
    And you and others , are pointing out evolution of life on the earth after life was established.
    As you would agree is billions of trillions of years apart. So there is no chance of a consent .

    In a last effort to end this let me just make one concession, God started and evolution took over.

    micheldiego replied on June 24th, 2008 3:47 pm:

    Want to play creating the elements of life in a bulb?
    http://www.millerureyexperiment.com/

    roadrunrnch replied on June 24th, 2008 4:13 pm:

    to your reply]

    God seems to be the sticking point.
    Lets try this ; Gravity, Prove / disprove.

    Gravity;
    see it?
    hear it?
    smell it ?
    You just feel it and see it’s action on other matter.

    GOD;
    see it?
    hear it?
    smell it ?
    You just feel it and see it’s action on other matter
    and yet you can prove it does not exist…??

    Prove to me there is gravity, this is what you ask of me.
    Proving there is not. Is this what you are trying to do with GOD?

    RRR
    The insane

    roadrunrnch replied on June 24th, 2008 4:42 pm:

    Oh hey
    And from the life the experiment creates comes the human Eye?

    ArgonTheAware replied on June 24th, 2008 4:51 pm:

    You’re leaving out the other quadrants that’s where your insanity stems from category errors and reducing everything to only parts

    You asked about specific elements and I gave you them but if you wanted a more comprehensive answer for what else is necessary for life then you have to include more perspectives.

    http://integralwiki.net/index.php?title=AQAL

    If you want to go into the other aspects of what is necessary for life then you have to include more than just chemisty since that’s only the lower right quadrant

    roadrunrnch replied on June 24th, 2008 5:18 pm:

    OK OK OK OK OK:

    Words are fucking us up. lets try.

    A=All that is
    0=absolute nothing

    ……0+0=0
    ……A+0=1
    ……0+A=1
    ……0+0+A=A
    ……A+A+0=A2
    ……0+0+0=0
    synopsis:
    Is as thought, 0+0 always equals, 0
    and by adding A and / or 0 to any equation the
    out come is the same.

    Can you prove this false?

    RRR
    The Confused

    roadrunrnch replied on June 24th, 2008 5:21 pm:

    sorry A+A=A Not 1 I am stupid after all

    RRR
    THE :oops:

    roadrunrnch replied on June 24th, 2008 5:22 pm:

    A+0=A shit

    ArgonTheAware replied on June 24th, 2008 5:49 pm:

    The proof is that your premises are false since there is more than your sets emcompass

    You’re still leaving a lot out, since that’s only the 3rd person perspective. Trying including the 2nd and 1st person also.

    http://www.amazon.com/One-Two-Three-God/dp/1591795 311

    roadrunrnch replied on June 24th, 2008 6:40 pm:

    You’re still leaving a lot out, since that’s only the 3rd person perspective. Trying including the 2nd and 1st person also.
    NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO!

    THERE IS NO leaving out ………..Focus,,,

    I am TRYING TO show that , something can not happen in NOTHING.

    Remember….0+0=0 There is no something to leave out !

    nothing…………000000000000000000000+0=0
    ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((0)))))))))))))  )))))))))))))))))))))))))

    ArgonTheAware replied on June 24th, 2008 6:54 pm:

    That’s the false assumption since there is always something rather than nothing so that it’s only fragments of a whole and never just nothing.

    ArgonTheAware replied on June 24th, 2008 7:07 pm:

    :twisted: Go ahead an try to focus on nothing :wink: and try to prove it :twisted: Then I’ll show you evidence that it does contain something :lol:

    pennsyltucky9 replied on June 25th, 2008 12:10 am:

    Cool!

    Nice work, micheldiego.

    micheldiego replied on June 24th, 2008 4:41 pm:

    Come on there is a huge difference between god and gravity, as you said for gravity: “You just feel it and see it’s action on other matter”. And I bet that each time you fall on the floor you feel it badly.
    But god? You can’t feel it by any sense and you can’t see any of his action on any matter can you?
    So now regarding prooving or not prooving, of course I can proove you the existence of gravity just by pushing you through the window from the third floor. And as we are here speaking of reality, I can call some scientific theory and predict the terminal velocity and energy dissipated when you impact the floor, and anyone doing bthe math will find the same numbers.
    You can’t proove me the existence of god. And neither can I proove that Santa Clauss does not exists, and as it is a matter of faith it is a good thing that we don’t have the same “perception”. It prooves that imagination can create any fantasy or “perception” of the reality, or poetry, any faith belief or disbelief are possible…

    roadrunrnch replied on June 24th, 2008 4:55 pm:

    All I need to prove GOD exist is Prove IT does not.

    The fact that You are unable to prove that Santa Claus does not exists,
    Is apparent. You really need to start out on something you can conceive .
    Try : Marina , Is She a real Woman of just the figment of our over active minds, An enigma?

    RRR
    The Evil

    pennsyltucky9 replied on June 24th, 2008 5:01 pm:

    Apparently, any failure to decisively prove that something DOESN’T exist provides positive proof that it exists (at least on the planet roadrunrnch).

    What a waste of time this guy is. He should try to get an education some day. I’ll tell you one thing: I’m sure glad I live next door to Santa Claus. Many people think he is a myth. Can you imagine?

    roadrunrnch replied on June 24th, 2008 5:35 pm:

    PT9

    You are still not getting it…. S_L_O_W?

    You can not have Nothing and use something to prove it excites.

    THERE IS NO (((((((SOMETHING IN NOTHING.)))))))……..FOR FUCKS SAKE.

    RRR
    The wondering why are they so thick?

    roadrunrnch replied on June 24th, 2008 5:52 pm:

    this is just trying to get a horse to drink. You can drag’um, push ‘um
    shove it’s head into the water. They will not drink. Only when It is ready to drink, will it.

    RRR
    The Tired

    ps GOD excites=E E+0=A

    micheldiego replied on June 24th, 2008 7:06 pm:

    Hi pennsyltucky9, what RR is trying to tell us I think is the Saint Thomas d’Aquinus argument called “maxime verum”. As “nothing” is impossible, must be something “always”. Everyting pass is born and die, so anything is nothing. But as nothing is not possible, must be something (not “anything”) always existing and this is god.
    If nothing exists then god exists. I think Kant has debunked this argument, don’t remember how exactly.
    But it is easy to see that the argument only works when you put the existence or inexistence of nothing in a timeframe. The argument uppose a “before” a time when everyting does not exist except something (god), and a “creation”.
    The problem is that if the universe does not exist, time don’t exist neither. Time and space and the current reality where things exists is totally conistent. “Before” the “creation” is not only a place where nothing is, but also a moment where time does not exist.
    RR the “nothing” you are speaking about is not only “nothing” but also “notime” no place no time nothing. So RR do you think there “was” a god in such a no-moment and no-place?

    ArgonTheAware replied on June 24th, 2008 7:33 pm:

    There have been a few advances since Kant that include evidence like String Theory and M-Theory plus experiences beyond space/time into Non-dual awareness that show that not to be the case.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-dual

    roadrunrnch replied on June 24th, 2008 11:45 pm:

    “maxime verum ” you say this is no-time and no-matter? All I come up with has to do with the Law. I will call it maxime verum. And at the maxime verum ( because there is no before, no-time) at that point [ 0 ] something happened.
    That something [ 0 ], is what I call ” GOD.” ( my god nothing to do with religion or some guy in the clouds watching over us.)
    And you call .”.Something “.
    The ( IT ) that started time and produced matter to create all that is.
    Should I change the name I use to ‘Starter” ?

    Argon is still trying to get to no-time no-matter. String /, M theory always something, He is trying to inject something into no-time no-matter. keep going Argon, keep going

    captainjack replied on June 24th, 2008 5:26 pm:

    ……………………….Califorfnium - Cf

    Well you might be right! That is an important element.

    Californication Season One…

    roadrunrnch replied on June 24th, 2008 5:40 pm:

    Had to laugh

    capman911 replied on June 24th, 2008 6:02 pm:

    Jack what channel does that program come on :grin:

    captainjack replied on June 24th, 2008 9:47 pm:

    I don’t know. I don’t have TV. I just use the internet for entertainment and a very large collection of DVDs. Weird hu, or smart? :wink:

    Warren replied on June 25th, 2008 3:32 pm:

    Same here catainjack. I have books, books on tape/cd and a very large collection of VHS/DVD’s. You can watch whole episodes of older TV shows on the internet if you felt like it- you still get commercials though.

    captainjack replied on June 25th, 2008 7:17 pm:

    Yea those damn commercials. I still think I need to own a new Infinity EX. I think my life would be so much better when I drive the new Infinity EX. Hey I have to go and do a test drive of the 2008 Infinity EX 35 before they are all gone. Maybe I can sell my yacht and buy a new 2008 Infinity EX. …. NOT!!!!! Wow that was close. They almost had me believe I need that hunk of metal.

    Well I better get back to posting. I have to get all this done before I go out and buy a new car… :twisted:

    micheldiego replied on June 25th, 2008 9:43 am:

    Hi RRR,
    Thanks for keeping this chat fiendly, I appeciate.

    About “god” if I understood what you said, it seems to me that it all goes to the unknown density of the universe:
    A) If the density of the universe is low the universe is expanding “forever” and the big bang maybe well be an “initial” point in time and space, an anomaly. Maybe then there is such thin as a “creation” that as you said is dificult to understand since we are not use in getting “something” from “nothing”. There is then diferent ways in naming this “anomaly”. Some will point out to a “god” with paternal figure and a free will in creating universe. Apparently it is not your case, apparently you see the “anomaly” as something unknowable but perhaps not as something with own will. Anyway I bet you could understand that some can imagine that the “anomaly” could be “something” and not “someone”. And maybe you can even imagine that the “something” could be a property of the universe itself. resuming: if there is such thing as a creation to explain the anomaly caused by the transition from no time and no space to universe we could refer to 1) a god as an individual with will “doing” something 2) a “physical” event a thing not an individual “doing” something 3) an inherent property of the universe, who “per se” can be or not be and switch from one mode to another without intervention of 1) or 2)
    B) If the density of the universe is high, the gravity will end expansion at some point and the universe will contract again till coming back together to a unique point of infinite density resulting in a bing crunch. Then it is possible that there is not such thing as a “creation”, but a serie of expansions and contraction of a huge beating drum/heart of gigantic proportion, time and space always have existed and will exists forever sometime expanding sometime contraction and each zillions years passing throug a unique point simultaneously big bang or big crunch.

    About my own experience of “nothing” it is of course refering to my reality. What is “the” reality? The universe, my existence, the words naming things? Here we could debate, but egoistically speaking my understanding is that before I was born stricly nothing existed. The age of the universe is my age and once I’m dead it will end. So I still think that I have experienced “nothing” and will experience it again.

    micheldiego replied on June 25th, 2008 9:50 am:

    I just had second thoughts and I noticed that ancient greeks had three words to say time each one with different properties: the time flowing, the time of the opportunity and the time as a cycle.
    Perhaps it is the sign that they already knew that time could be at the same simultaneously or alternativly cyclical and linear, with a will of the opportunity or indiferent to anything else. The last measures of the density of the universe are giving the exact density were universe can or expand infinitly or contract at some point (or both maybe?)

    roadrunrnch replied on June 25th, 2008 10:52 am:

    My sticking point with an expanding Universe is , What is it expanding in to.

    Is time cyclical or/and linear? This is the first element that needs to be established, everything hinges on this.

    We are caught up with being right, more then in being right, at the expense of the truth.

    micheldiego replied on June 25th, 2008 12:00 pm:

    Responding here to your last two posts:
    Regarding solipsism it is not so “of-topic” in my mind because I consider it together with a certaiin sort of materialism. If I think that mind needs matter to exist, and don’t buy the duality of soul-body then my solipsism is not only a solitude of the mond but also of the body. What I see is that there is no such thing as survival of the matter nor survival of the “soul”, “I” will not survive, nor in matter nor in spirit (which are the same). So when comparing to the eventual “apparition” of the universe it is not off-topic, because I personnaly experienced already the “anomaly” of having at somepoint a mind and a body when I perfectly know that “before” or “after” there was nothing and there will be nothing. In that sense the “anomaly” is not so extraordinary to need to be called with “god” names. 0+0=A is not so frightning each time I notice that 0+0 =Micheldiego. That why I can perfectly think that being or not being is an inherent property of Micheldiego , and may also weel be an inherent property of the universe.
    About your second answer, maybe we should think with a oriental mind where one thing and his opposite is possible.
    As logical twisted minds, maybe thinking in quantic mechanics could help, when noticing that something can ACTUALLY be in two different place at the same time (as an example). So is there a truth? Is time or cyclical or linear and not both?

    Bob replied on June 25th, 2008 12:17 pm:

    I don’t see how you can state that 0+0=micheldiego.
    Isn’t it the case that (Mama/2)+(Papa/2)=Mapa or Pama->micheldiego?

    micheldiego replied on June 25th, 2008 2:06 pm:

    From mama or papa or Bob’s point of view yes, from micheldiego’s point of view no, because before I existed NOTHING existed, no mama no papa no Bob no nothing. This solispsist point of view is a way I used in the discussion with RRR to try to aprehend the emptyness of the existence in a time and place where there is nothing and not time. By just thinking of you before you were born (your mind and your body) you can get something similar to what was the universe before being “created”, in the case of the universe has been “created”, because it could be “cyclical” and existing for ever from big bangs to big crunchs (or the oposite?)

    Bob replied on June 25th, 2008 3:21 pm:

    The reason I asked is that, I seem to remember reading about an anomaly in the amount of matter existing in the universe; one theory to explain this is that, right after the big bang, matter and anti-matter were created in equal amounts, but since then, anti-matter has decayed or transmuted in some way so there is more matter than there should be.
    If this were true, then
    -M(Anti-matter/Pater)+M(Matter/Mater)=0 (Nothing/Void),  
    Big Bang,
    -> Matter + Anti-matter = A (All of existence)

    Does that work or am I raving mad? :lol:

    micheldiego replied on June 25th, 2008 3:56 pm:

    OK I got it now and it make sense. But I am not sure that including anti-matter in the equation helps :?: .

    I was speaking of something else where there is no anti-micheldiego.

  22. pat_the_dog on June 24th, 2008 2:35 pm

    Hi Marina,

    When things are a bit disorganised, why do we say that they’re at “sixes and sevens”?

    Woof, woof….

    melikadothechacha replied on June 24th, 2008 5:18 pm:

    Our friends from across the pond are best suited to answer this one. :mrgreen:

  23. mr.brooks on June 24th, 2008 2:18 pm

    the origin of this word
    Hydrophilic

  24. fourminand20 on June 24th, 2008 2:16 pm

    Hey Marina!
    Lets learn about the word “etymology” itself. I’m sure there must be an interesting story behind the word that describes the history of words. A redundant topic?

    elvenfunk replied on June 24th, 2008 3:16 pm:

    I can tell you the origin. Ok but I won’t! But I’ll say that it is a double-linked word coming from Greek! :) I hope I haven’t ruined the party!

    fourminand20 replied on June 24th, 2008 4:53 pm:

    No- You haven’t ruined the party. I’ll conspire to post another word that has more investigative value. I knew that the word was borderline Sesquipedalian from the beginning…..

  25. karsrkewl on June 24th, 2008 1:47 pm

    the origin of the word HAWAII :shock:

  26. melikadothechacha on June 24th, 2008 1:33 pm

    Baby, do you need some tech support? :mrgreen:

    capman911 replied on June 24th, 2008 1:52 pm:

    I don’t think she’s talking to us today. Humm all of the smilies have gone by by.

    melikadothechacha replied on June 24th, 2008 2:28 pm:

    error reading server?
    must be the hardware

    umm ,, her last comments
    were 13 hrs ago Could be
    she’s having trouble, too.

    what’s the right word?
    saboteurs?

    I guess she’s a target
    now she’s #5 at GT4!

    Pretty soon, she’ll need more than one bodyguard!
    (one conspicuous, one inconspicuous, at least) :mrgreen:

    Bob replied on June 24th, 2008 2:30 pm:

    Time to start making your own. :smile: :grin: :lol:

    roadrunrnch replied on June 24th, 2008 2:23 pm:

    Do you live near LA
    She just might need some expert GEEK help.
    Her in-house GEEK is having some difficulty.

    ChaCha train to the rescue

    melikadothechacha replied on June 24th, 2008 2:44 pm:

    I live in south FLA, but I can use
    the remote assistant, piece of cake.
    i could echo the problem machine
    run some diagnostics. Who made it?
    Different servers have different bugs.
    These problems come up during
    the housekeeping cycle, hard drives
    act up, all kinds of FUN! Sometimes
    it’s just the controller card, which can
    mean the data is safe. But other times?
    Oy! :mrgreen:

    Marina replied on June 24th, 2008 3:44 pm:

    How long did it go down for? Was it Error Establishing Database Connection?

    capman911 replied on June 24th, 2008 4:22 pm:

    Did anyone ever answer your question. If not probably about 15 minutes. Plus there are still issues with a error 404 page coming up when you click on you’r site.
    Mike

    melikadothechacha replied on June 24th, 2008 4:42 pm:

    I was having that message, plus
    sometimes a page came up with
    no comments, or, the site was
    not accepting comments
    Pretty much the same from
    page to page. It has been
    better in recent hours, but
    there was a long stretch
    between the posted message
    saying it would be 20 mins,
    ’til now. A little bit like waiting
    in line for Pirates of the Caribbean
    ride at Disney World.

    Hey there girly girl! :grin:
    You need to keep Arnold away
    from the computer!! :???:

    melikadothechacha replied on June 24th, 2008 5:23 pm:

    We’re still getting some really long wait states when submitting comments - just so’s you know. :mrgreen:

    melikadothechacha replied on June 24th, 2008 5:26 pm:

    is it back? comments totally being rejected
    Message: ! Failed to add your comment

    capman911 replied on June 24th, 2008 5:49 pm:

    It is doing the same to me too. Rejecting the replys. Or taking a long time to load them.

  27. melikadothechacha on June 24th, 2008 1:33 pm

    WOW! It accepted my comments!

    melikadothechacha replied on June 24th, 2008 4:51 pm:

    I forgot the lesson, already Doh!
    I did get to read EVERYBOY’s comments
    though, so I learned the answer to the
    homework is either seppuku or kamekaze.
    Thought kamikaze meant “divine wind”
    or some such. Harry Carey used to to
    the baseball commentary. Guess that
    might be why Americans pronounce
    hara kiri incorrectly. :mrgreen:

  28. melikadothechacha on June 24th, 2008 1:32 pm

    ok - testing testing

    capman911 replied on June 24th, 2008 5:25 pm:

    What does a cyrilic keyboard do :?:

    melikadothechacha replied on June 24th, 2008 5:41 pm:

    that’s a keyboard with all the funny russian letters on the keys!
    Y’know upside down “R” and stuff. Load the cyrilic keyboard driver and your in business. You can still load the driver - standard 102 key, but it makes sense if you can see the characters on the keys as you type them. :mrgreen:
    same goes for japanese, chinese, hebrew, etc.

    capman911 replied on June 24th, 2008 5:47 pm:

    Thank you Sir Melikadothechacha :cool: I dub the a night because it’s almost 9:00 here. :lol:

  29. roadrunrnch on June 24th, 2008 1:20 pm

    They have changed again, there were others ………ooooh scary

  30. capman911 on June 24th, 2008 1:17 pm

    The better to see her my son :cool:

  31. roadrunrnch on June 24th, 2008 1:09 pm

    look bigger adds .>>

  32. capman911 on June 24th, 2008 1:06 pm

    I see that too. I had problems when I refreshed the page it told me no data base found. Then sent me to a blank page. Still just a few bugs to work out. :cool:

  33. roadrunrnch on June 24th, 2008 12:48 pm

    Still having problems? :roll:

  34. superdanilchik on June 24th, 2008 12:29 pm

    дорогая мариночка,даже если ты постоянно занята, тебе удалось смотреть как россия прекрасно играет в еврочемрионате по футболу :cool: ?…..i’m always looking forward to watching at least one more video in Russian :grin: it would be cool if you decided to investigate the origin of ”Russian roulette” or if you do not particularly like this,i will be looking for something else to propose you, meanwhile i would also like you to discuss the origin of etymology,if someone has already requested this term :?: ,i join this request!

    capman911 replied on June 24th, 2008 1:07 pm:

    I am going to have to learn Russian. It’s such a beautiful language. But the lettering kinda confuses me :wink:

    melikadothechacha replied on June 24th, 2008 5:21 pm:

    It’s easy if you have a cyrilic keyboard
    (good luck finding one in the US) :mrgreen:

    lividemerald replied on June 24th, 2008 10:43 pm:

    Cyrillic looks surreal. I wonder what wonderful drug St.Cyril was taking when he thought up this fascinating letter system?

    superdanilchik replied on June 25th, 2008 8:34 am:

    PRIVEEEEET,MIKE! :cool: SOOOO cooooool that you are so deeply interested in our beautiful Russian langauge…i really wish you could start as soon as possible since i think that you will like it so much! however believe me: the CYRILLIC alphabet will be the easiest thing to learn,it is not so difficult as it seems,things will be getting a little bit more complicated when you will have to write in cyrillic italic… the grammar will be definetely the most difficult thing ,as a matter of fact it works such as mathematics with a thousand of rules and exceptions…anyway if you will have some questions i will be ready to help you,and MARINA too,i think!

    capman911 replied on June 25th, 2008 1:17 pm:

    Thanks for the help Superdanilchik. I found a web site that sells cyrillic key boards and or stick on letters in cyrillic that can be attached to your existing key board. They are very cheap in price also. I think I will buy Rossetta Stone for Russian to help me also. Talk at you Later. :smile:

  35. joshuwar on June 24th, 2008 12:16 pm

    Hey! I want to know the history behind the word “Kapish/Kapeesh”. I hear this word a lot in gangster films and wanted to know where it came from!

    Thanks :cool:

  36. sulley1234 on June 24th, 2008 12:05 pm

    Hi. I was wondering what the origin of spelunking is. I went with a couple of friends exploring caves and this word popped up a lot

    capman911 replied on June 24th, 2008 4:34 pm:

    Hello Sully,
    I not going to answer you’r question I am leaving that up to Marina. But spelunking sounds like a dirty word doesn’t it :?:

    lividemerald replied on June 24th, 2008 10:43 pm:

    Any lunk can spel it.

  37. pinkcanon on June 24th, 2008 11:47 am

    Seppuku is my answer to the homework. Seppuku is the ritual assisted suicide inwitch a person sat in a ring of friends at dawn wrote their parting last words and their was choped off. Sometimes the person would cut their own belly at the same time. P.S for extra credit I think the answer I JAPAN. It is not used by them rather NIPPON and NIHRON are used. I hope I’m teacher’s pet :lol:

  38. rreppy on June 24th, 2008 11:47 am

    The “polite” word for hara-kiri is seppuku. Right?

  39. politricks5 on June 24th, 2008 11:26 am

    How about the word “Phenomenon”? From where did that come?
    It sounds Vietnamese.
    And for dessert I shall have the Phen omenon.

    Also, my friends don’t believe me, but aren’t jujubees used for making Kosher honey?

    elvenfunk replied on June 24th, 2008 3:19 pm:

    I’m not supposed to tell you if I know the answer, right? Ok I won’t say.
    But I know! :grin:

    politricks5 replied on June 24th, 2008 4:07 pm:

    edd zackery :mrgreen: (that’s Japanese for ‘exactly’)

    lividemerald replied on June 24th, 2008 10:47 pm:

    “Phenomena” is a Dario Argento film starring a young Jennifer Connelly and the late veteran actor Donald Pleasence. Jennifer is bee-utiful in this film, which has both creepy moments and some really good scares.

  40. vyrtig0 on June 24th, 2008 11:14 am

    Whats the origin of Palm Tree?

    lividemerald replied on June 24th, 2008 10:47 pm:

    The origin of my palm trees are Star Nursery, circa 2004.

  41. capman911 on June 24th, 2008 9:45 am

    Marina if that is you’r belly in the video, you covered it up with that darn start button.