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Why is football called soccer in the United States?
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Posted on July 6, 2008 · Filed Under Lessons
Why is football called soccer in the United States?
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Posted on July 6, 2008 · Filed Under Lessons
A soccer ball walks into a bar. The bartender kicked him out
you should become a striper at my strip culb in las veges
I was showing off your soccer vid to someome & noticed you pulled off a front double biceps pose, at 17 sec in…very nice, didn’t catch it first time through.
The teacers pet is #269 !!!
Wow. It might pay for me to proof read my comments before i hit enter.
because its a nick name
I may have requested this word
but only to be funny(?)
cool, Most viewed today
ohhhh, nice ass!
Talking of words that the Americans use differently - why is jam called jelly in the US, but jelly is something different in Britain?
And then there are words which are the same but said differently. In England we usually say the word oregano as oregahno - with the stress on the “a”. But I remember a Star Trek film where William Shatner says “oreganoh” withe the stress at the end. When that came on the screen my wife and I looked at each other as if to say “what?” - then we realised what the devil he meant.
Nick
hello
Here in the US we pronounce that oh-REG-a-no.
That’s what I was trying to say - not very well
I like b-AY-sil… it’s my favo(u)rite ‘urb…
Baysil Fawlty, Torquay, England.
Just keep in mind that Shatner is a Canadian. Maybe that’s why he said it that way.
I……LOVE……..AREGANO…!!!
JIM !! I’m a doctor, not a farmer.!!
In my lifetime in the UK it has always been called Football - it used to be nicknamed Soccer, but this fell into disuse because of Americans calling it Soccer period - the nickname for Football is now Footie.
There are also two Rugby codes over here - Rugby Union and Rugby League - coming from the north west of England I prefer Rugby League, but living in Wales I can only talk about Rugby Union with my friends and colleagues
x for teacher x
Miss M what about the letters XoXoXoXos which mean love and kisses. How did this originate
.
I know about 143 and what it means but the other eludes me.
But Spain was the Champion.
At least we failed against the best team.
Still this suck, I had so much hopes with Hiddick
Hiddink.
Sorry,
Football and rugby are more or less equally popular in England so we do not recognise both sports as variations of old football. Rugby is a seperate sport because the rules have evolved until they have nearly no relation to original football. Because of this the Association Football which became soccer does not need to be recognised as seperate rules so it remained just football.
Well put, mate… but no way are rugger and footy equally popular in UK. Maybe in Wigan or Leiceester or Northampton or somewhere but across the whole country… come on… (me old china)…
I suppose so, but still, compared to soccer and “American Football”(rugby rip off) they are more or less equal but I guess in the UK you’re right.
New words out today: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080707/new_dictionary_word s.html?.v=1
I thought for a minute by reading the headline on the first page of the dictionary, that they had put your name prospero in the dictionary. My mistake, but it would have been an honor to know you for being placed in the dictionary.
Is that your dream catcher you have around you’r neck. If so what are you hoping to catch
MOI
My dream catcher is Jason Varitek
Marina probably backs the Dodgers or the Angels…
Can you please explain the origin of the word “book” Thanks.
another word learned.. thanks
i was waondering if u can explain the origin of the word “sled”
plz..
thanks so much
Thank you for making my second covetted position come true. Being recognized for a word request. I know the others are just as elated as I. Well maybe some of them. I’ll let the ones that live in England do the proper answer for your homework request. I really don’t know where to start looking. So I guess I get an F in homework today.
But I loved the class and learned something again today. It’s weird why we call it football. It’s like baseball, we don’t hit the ball with the bases. Oh well maybe that could be another problem solver. 
Gotta disagree there, capman… baseball is aptly named, surely?
Again the thinking on the board is linear in extremis 
Thanks
What does “shiver me timbers” mean?
ARRRH! MATE “licker where she pees”
Why silverware is called flatware?
Soccer (Football) requires a minimum of equipement… a uniform and a ball. The ball is not optional,.
Australians call the game “soccer” as well.
Mainly because we have a game very popular to our country called Australian Rules Football, which is now known as AFL (Australian Football League).
We also have Rugby League and Rugby Union. These sports can be confusing if you don’t know how each of the game’s rules operate.
Since there has been some sports-related lessons lately (ie soccer, and 15-love in tennis), I have been watching some of the “Tour De France” lately, and I have been wondering about the origin of the word “pelaton”.
From what I have noticed, a pelaton is described as a big/huge group of cyclists in pursuit of (usually) one or few cyclists who had broken away from that big group to establish a big lead.
Sorry if that sounded confusing to anyone
Howya going, mate? I’m English and accused you fellas (below) of taking the piss if you call football soccer.
So apologies and thanks for setting the record straight. So youse call Aussie Rules Football just football then? I only watch rugby and cricket when I’m in your country… Aussie Rules too antipodean for us!
Glad to read yer watching the Tour in Oz. Should be good this year… we got Cavendish riding… v fast sprinter… and Hushovd trains in Wales! Allez Le Tour!
no worries.
Yeah I hope the same with the tour de france. The drug scandals from last years tour de france certainly didn’t help the sport’s reputation. I have heard that maybe in 2 years time Aussies will have their own team, which would be sweet
The funniest thing I remember from last year’s tour de france was where a guy wearing a mankini was running alongside the cyclists. I was glad that there wasn’t any wardrobe malfunctions
Ya sexeeetiiiiime! They say we’ll have our own British team by 2010… we’ve got enough good riders and Millar has enough money
…and by then the Tour may rule cycling (having wrested it from the ICU) so who knows what kind of strange stuff’ll be going on… mankinis as team uniforms? O, the humanity!
thank you Marina you’ve given me the article I’ve been waiting for
The Word Soccer Is…English ?
Germans lost the final, dumm***** .
Russians did very well, except for the first match (after they got the 300000 Euro offer they won
).
In Germany we go for both, Football and Soccer, depends where the match is (England, USA)
. Hum, I think as a German I prefer Football in German it is Fußball so it is easier to remember 
Ja fußball… zehr gut… “soccer” nicht gut…
hehe, “sehr” gut. Slave soccer, free Football.
So Princeton is indecisive on name choosing.
I want to take HotForWord’s sister out for Blueberry Crepes, what is her name
I have a word request, most gamers seem geared on the word Pwned or powned or pawned or PWN. However you wanna spell it, it usually means I kicked you butt at whatever task you’re doing. Got anything for us beyond that so maybe we can finally understand what they are insulting us with?
Thanks so much!
FaylinaMeir
(Fay-lee-na Me-ir) Yeah its made up, sue me!
word: computer or pc
By the way even if many know the etymology of the world hooligans it would be so interesting watching MARINA discussing this word with a nice video
FYI, football violence has virtually disappeared from the domestic game here in England. It’s often a family event these days. And racism has massively declined among English football fans.
We have the best leagues of the best sport in the world…
i do agree with you about the most of what you said,however, things with football fans on the continent are quite different from England as you can easily realize so we can immediately spot the difference between rugby and football supporters
Ya… but the idiots from England who cause trouble OUTSIDE football matches in mainland Europe are NOT football fans. They do not go to watch the game. They go just to fight. They are idiots.
There are are hardly ever any problems from the English INSIDE football stadia these days…
I have travelled from England to matches in France, Italy, Russia, Macedonia, Sweden, Azerbaijan and Ghana and never witnessed any problems among the true English fans who come to watch football.
presumined,forgive me if i’m bothering you but when i was talking about the difference between rugby and football supporters on the continent i wasn’t just talking about English supporters
i was globally talking about idiots coming from any country,unfortunately idiots do not run the risk of extinction in any nation..anyway i love ENGLAND and i have many good English friends with whom i watch both football and rugby even abroad…peace and respect.
Ya… the Germans and Poles are doing a good jog trying to take over from the English hooligans of the 70s and 80s. Meanwhile, I heard hooligan stems from the name of the notoriously unruly Hooligan family from Ireland who emigrated to UK in the 19th century. But, of course, life is way safer in Ireland… even though the Irish drink more than the Brits, the streets in Ireland a safe to walk weekend nights whereas, in Britain, few regular people brave the drunken fighters and pukers who come out en masse in all our big towns and cities every weekend… stay blessed…
job*
”FOOTBALL IS A GENTLEMEN SPORT PLAYED BY HOOLIGANS while RUGBY IS A HOOLIGANS SPORT PLAYED BY GENTLEMEN” ……who agrees with this?
I’ll agree with you, makes sense to me. Hi my friend how are you today, fine I hope. I will see you at the Blu Jam Cafe or Resturant for a meal one day.
CIAO Mike! i’m really fine and sooo glad to hear from you
by the way i think we gave origin to a sort of telepathic communication because i was thinking about the same thing 
and we could even share one meal in one of my three towns: Paris,Moscow,or Turin (Italy) 
I agree, even the audiences are better for rugby matches!!
Are you saying that us football fans who get drunk and throw popcorn at people then throwup on them and curse them out are not gentlemen
Well know I am appalled. 
You are probably right football fans tend to get a little out of hand. 
Act like a hooligan on a football pitch and you are immediately sent off. Rugby players routinely punch each other and stamp on each other. Some where shirts without sleeves so they can’t get grabbed so easily. And occasionally they even break each others’ necks (literally), leaving players paralysed for life.
Also rugby players are notorious in British bars for being loud-mouth, arrogant, violent drunks. And most are probably latent homosexuals.
I think that covers it.
wear*
Well, having played rugby a lot, I can yes, we did get very drunk after the match and we were very loud - but it was good natured, not particularly arrogant. And, as far as I know, none of our team was gay.
Nick
Dear Teacher… With a spoon! Sorry. Had a lapse of self control.
I’ve got a word for you that came to me in that ultimate place of pondering… The shower!
I’m washing my hair, and a little lather gets in my eyes causing me to cry out like a 4 year old girl… Then it hit me. What is “SHAMPOO”? How did that word come to be used for hair soap?
Isn’t a “sham” a deceit, or lie? And isn’t “poo”… Well… Uh… Something that doesn’t smell good?
So “shampoo”… What gives?
right!
shampoo is a word to investigate
Amazing!!!! Another mystery solved by our HotForWords!
Marina, two different questions. One written under the video and another from your mouth. Soccer is still called soccer in England. Rugby was invented in England also and was a sport which allowed holding the rugby ball and running with the same.As for America’s style of football called football, I Am speculating the colonists of America to differentiate from English style soccer and rugby designed their own ball and rules.
Again speculating without looking up the answer, America’s football is about a foot in length measuring end to end, allowing for measuring penalties when no official measurement system was in effect in the early days of the sport. Hence by rolling the football end over end a measurement could be made. Three football lengths to a yard, ten yards to a first down, 100 yards the length of a football field.
New words request: burkett…….persimmon………….cottonwood
Football isn’t called soccer in England.
Well, not any more. There days “soccer” is seen as peculiarly American. But when I was a kid, although the word “soccer” was dying out, you still heard it sometimes - this would have been early 60s. And books, I guess all published before that, but post war used the word soccer a lot.
Dear Marina,
Hi there. Another request from me, about words like “Flip-Flops” and “Sandals” (especially referring to beach sandals), or even the word “Thongs”. Sometimes, the word “Slippers” is still being used in our country (the Philippines) even if we can also use the words “Sandals” and “Flip-Flops” here, nowadays. I hope you can discuss these words to us.
And also, if it is okay with you, will you please show us that you’re wearing a pair of it? Thanks.
-Ahszi
It’s funny, my aunt was all talking about the “World Cup of Soccer” and how Beckham is a SOCCER player and I told her he plays Football because that’s what it’s called in England, and she just insisted that it’s called Soccer in England too, because it’s the “World Cup of Soccer” and I was like… and what station was this on? ESPN? Yes, you see that’s an AMERICAN station so they had AMERICAN titles and AMERICAN announcers… so yeah they’re not gonna call it “The World Cup of Football” and confuse all the American Football fans. She continued to insist she was right, even after my cousin Sharon, in the one time she’s EVER been on my side in an argument, agreed with me.
You and Sharon are right. You’re aunt is sooooo wrong
In England it’s just known as the The World Cup, as it is all over Europe, Asia, South America and Africa. The suffix “of football” is completely unnecessary. The World Cup is the The World Cup.
An analogy: we have a national newspaper in England called The Times which has been publishing since 1785. In the US people call it The “London” Times. This is completely incorrect.
Me born in london….South east….plumsted….37…still in the S.E..area of London…..COR BLIEMY GOVNER ! ….mmmm….why did us Brits stick with FOOTBALL …..the sport is used by the FOOT …its a ball……When you play it s all done BY FOOT CONTROL….so i recon thast Why we call it Foot ball……
My dear marina ! SPAIN BEAT GERMANY ! preety cool for a spainish team that last time WON in the 1960’s ….’ Hat off to them ‘ they done well .
Take it easy……oxoxoxoxo
Luvverly, mate. Watch aat, here comes the perishin’ rozzers!
If you don’t mind me asking presumined what county are you from. I like to keep a list of people who I chat with on their county. I am from America. North Carolina to be exact.
Mike
I live in the east of England, in the countryside about five miles from the sea. I dig it the most.
Dear teacher,
This was a real mystery, so thank you! It is strange that anglo-saxon always abreviate their idiomatic expression or tittle etc… Is there any reason (I mean a linguistic one other than lazyness ! ! ! !)?
Thank you for the lesson.
Amicalement,
Don Felipe Gonzales the curious
I have always wondered were the word MARIACHI comes from…
you know like the mexican music haha
gwillikers on July 6th, 2008 10:52 pm
Hi Marina, Sex Goddess From Russia With Love,
I’m wondering if you can haddle a nice, well-ordered set … something makes me think … DAH!! … and … DAH! … lol …
Here is the nice set: [wiggle, giggle, jiggle]
They all seem related in a way but they are different … how did they originate? In what order did they originate?
HotFor”HotForWords” (that’s me) wants to know.
And maybe you could demonstrate the difference between those three words, so that we could more easily remember them? :>)
Send me a kiss soon. Or a wink, or a hug or giggle or a wiggle or a jiggle or something!
MWAAAA!!
Gwillikers
ps: When did
MWHAAAA…MWAAA… MWAAAA come into being?dearest marina
please investigate the word copenhagen
geographically and then why it is related to chewing tobacco
and your sister, is she in your head?
i recon the sister is like Niki in HEROES tv serires ….where yes its all in her head ….mabe marina got some secret power she do’esnt konw she has?? ….she has to make up a Ghost sister…..
Yes, Marina keeps her locked in her loo.
were does “xxx” come from?
Probably some 12 year old girl came up with that …
28
I am pretty sure I know the answer, however unless Marina says she’s not interested in investigating it, I shall refrain from giving my answer.
Vin Diesel hasn’t a clue. Sorry.
Hey Marina,
Ive got another Word for you… Twat, now heres the reason.
My mother claims that a pregnant goldfish is called a twat. There are other people that beleive this also, however goldfish cannot become pregnant as they are egg layers… whats the connection?
Because soccer is soccer
Marina… I vote for your friends’ place but the best diner in LA County is The Potholder in Long Beach… Eat at the Potholder!
Bizoo and pancakes…
Interesting. How about the origin for fencing or some of the fencing terms? Maybe hockey or other sports that aren’t imminently obvious in their name origin. Thanks Duane
Suggested words:
“copacetic” - an American word often considered slang, but I think it has moved into the mainstream language enough to lose the “slang” designation. It isn’t in my 1971 OED and I haven’t checked the newer edition.
“quiz” - has a great unproven legend.
“beatnik” - usually attributed to columnist Herb Caen in a 1958 article.
“geostationary” and “geosynchronous” - Arthur C. Clarke came up with the idea using the concept for communications satellites in 1945, but when were the words coined?
Could you cite your sources? Maybe in a link next to each entry on the “All the Words and Phrases” page? (In the video about OK you didn’t cover the “Old Kinderhook” and “OK Club” story. Many older etymology books list it as the definite origin. This was thrown into doubt when antecedent use of the term was found. Was the “Old Kinderhook” story omitted for time or has it been eliminated from most modern reference books?)
intergalactic?
And what about TENNIS ?
I would very much like to see your sister once in a while. Your reluctance to show her makes me wonder if she is perhaps even hotter than you. Is my teacher jealous?
her sister is just as hot as she is and she loves me
lcl4, check out the Butterfly-Answer video and the Spitting Image-Answer video in the Lessons menu link up above. Her sister is just as hot, but the evil twin is always butting in.
Hey, ken, Marina’s sister told me she loved me too. I’ve got proof.
Look at the Image-Answer video (2:22). She said, “I love You”.
My middle name is “You” as in ‘Pedanitc You Karl’.
Wonderful explanation Teach. I’ve wondered about this subject from time to time over the years. Nice to finally have it worked out in my head….maybe I can get some sleep now…
As for why it’s not called soccer in England since they invented the word,…..I have no idea. Next time I talk with a friend of mine over there, I’ll have to ask him.
Wonderful lesson, as always, and that’s a beautiful necklace you have on. Is it Native American, or does it signify something for you?
Keep up the great work Teach!
i think you should talk about why people are trying to help tibet escape chinese control
I request the word SHILL. From what I gather the origin is unknown…might be a good challenge, right?
And BTW, football violence has virtually disappeared from the domestic game here in England. It’s often a family event these days. And racism has massively declined among English football fans.
We have the best leagues of the best sport in the world!
football
the open-air game, first recorded 1409; forbidden in a Scottish statute of 1424. The first reference to the ball itself is 1486. Figurative sense of “something idly kicked around” is first recorded 1532. Ball-kicking games date back to the Roman legions, at least, but the sport seems to have risen to a national obsession in England, c.1630. Rules first regularized at Cambridge, 1848; soccer (q.v.) split off in 1863. The U.S. style (known to some in England as “stop-start rugby with padding”) evolved gradually 19c.; the first true collegiate game is considered to have been played Nov. 6, 1869, between Princeton and Rutgers, at Rutgers, but the rules there were more like soccer. A rematch at Princeton Nov. 13, with the home team’s rules, was true U.S. football. The earliest recorded application of the word football to this is from 1881.
soccer
1889, socca, later socker (1891), soccer (1895), originally university slang, from a shortened form of Assoc., abbreviation of association in Football Association (as opposed to Rugby football); cf. rugger, but they hardly could have taken the first three letters of Assoc.
I know you know where this came from, but do I get an A for effort?
Hola from England Marina,
I answered this question on your website message board some time ago. It’s common knowledge here in the Old Country
Some fool started doubting me saying soccer could not be short for Association Football, displaying a singular lack of lateral thought. I simply dismissed this but you’ve answered it beautifully in your video.
Anyhoo, we call it football because, like the word soccer, we invented it and we’ve been playing it since the 1860s. Come on you Blues! (Ipswich Town FC… we beat Torpedo Moscow in 2001 UEFA Cup :wink:)
Bizoo!
presumined, but you originally called it football.. then invented the word soccer as a form of football with feet only.. exported that name to the US.. but somehow shifted back to football in the UK. Do you know why that second change occurred?
Hola again Marina… thanks for letting me rant ad nauseam about The Beautiful Game on your message board…
This my testimony: The word soccer never, ever caught on here in Angleterre… simple as that. It was just some uptight fellows feeling the need for differentiation from rugger… but the people, with their flat caps and bad teeth, kept right on calling it football…
OK America, listen up: We never have and never shall use the term “soccer” in England to describe our game of football. If you use the word soccer in a London bar you get wedgied and deported to Alaska.
But I must say, Marina, if you create a league of your Ass Football (as demonstrated by the picture in your video) I shall move immediately to the US and buy a season ticket…
Bizooooo…
PS We can’t get too emotional here about Russia’s defeat in Euro 2008, btw… if you recall, you guys helped knock out a particular Western European team in the qualifiers… clue: its name begins with E and ends with a “ngland”…
Presumined, how old are you? I’m guessing you’re well under 50. It definitely was called soccer when I was a kid - also called football too - indeed more commonly. But it was evident from the books I read that it used to be called soccer a lot more before I was born.
Go on the blues!
Nick
Marina, I don’t know why the Brits stopped calling it soccer. Soccer was a word still in use when I was a kid - but it was dying out. If you said “soccer” to the other kids they would think you were from a very posh, snobby family. So “soccer” became a word not of the common man I think.
This would be a reason why the word soccer eventually died in Britain. But it doesn’t necessarily explain why it started it’s decline in the first place. I’d have to ask my father - but he’s dead.
Nick
Answer: Mmm…social custom, it gets popular, need to delineate boundaries of the word. I was born in Michigan, and appreciate sweet corn to eat. During my Army term in Germany(1975), I learned that people there thought of sweet corn, as only fit for pigs to eat. So maybe it goes like this: word origins/social custom/popularity. Okay, since I don’t want to feel left out with the word request, here are three: circumcision, female circumcision (also know under other terms for this religious practice), and aphrodisiac. Well with more than 200 videos, guess who has homework now? Plastic M-16?
Hey Marina can u give me the origin of Breasts??
Can someone tell me what a HFW Wall is, over there
, to the right?
Sorry PD, not me. Clueless @ pc.
They won’t change the name because if they did all the soccer thugs and hooligans would riot and that wouldn’t pretty.
Hi bro whatsup, a little shorter version this time.
Isn’t it Spain that riots every time wheither they win or loose. Or just riot for the heck of it. It seems like every time they play they are rioting about something tearing down fences, running out on the field. 
Heya Marina,
requesting:
Word Farfetched
Phrase Pull my finger
they call soccer in Spain Futbol and u pronounced it well
and football in spain is call Futbol Americano
i think that the britsish call soccer football because hey maybe they like the word football better
Souljablacc66 Aka Vgwiz28 <— Youtube Acc
“i think that the britsish call soccer football because hey maybe they like the word football better”
Hola Souljablacc66… your theory about why we say football and not soccer in England is probably the best answer I have ever seen on this site…
Viva football, futbol, fußbal, Le foot, footy (England), fitba (Scotland), The Beautiful Game!
Hey Marina
Just letting you know I did vote for Blu Jam. I go to L.A, weekly so I will have to try them out.
Thanks
Todd
That dress or top KILLS!…that mean its awesome!…so do the pigtails…well put together today Teacher!
Please help if possible. The word ” skipper” used to address the captain of a ship or plane. Sometimes even the commanding officer of military unit and occasionally in the civilian world the boss of dept. or group. How did this word come to this use. Thank You. c.l.p.
Are the poltergeist back again at 2:14?
Yes! That low in protein and toxic to most species,the eucalypt leaf has corrupted the turbocharged network with its ghastly voices. Art Bell to the rescue.
Since you live in L.A and like soccer/futbol, do you too have a man crush on David Beckham? haha
Ya… and Becks keeps saying football instead of soccer in US TV interviews… he’s a true national hero!
Shenanigan
My favorite word,
because it sounds so funky!
I know what it means,
but who was the Irish bloke to invent it?
A funny one I know,
Love you Marina
I second that word. I think I asked about shenanigans a while ago, but not enough people expressed interest. Maybe this time we will be lucky
another word I thought was kind of funny as well is “Ragamuffin”
I put this on the I have a favor, see what you all think?
roadrunrnch on July 6th, 2008 8:45 pm
Oh God could you imagine a Meet Hotforwords breakfast a this place? Like a book signing . Bring her videos , Posters, Book, Autographed Pictures.
A Meet and Greet? Man that could be a big deal.. Catering tents LoTs of Security, A publicist, Maxum Radio promotion, Utube mentions and word of mouth.
Get on it Marina. Damn If I must say so myself Sounds GOOD . \\\\\\\\\\What do all of YOU think./////////
Is your truck able to transport all the stuff… are you discounting your rates or hoping for a %?
I’m too simple I guess. Glad to see you keep working on new ideas, hope you have them all docummented & where neccesary patented. I do want to know when your truck is behind me on the freeway as you seem a little unpredictable at times…thats good right?
Some of the stuff you say RRR , I agree with, Some stuff, I guess goes over my head, & other, I can’t think about
BillyB I just read your bio in jrc’s blog if thats what we call it. the part that struck me the most was your Motto: What I do, doesn’t make much difference, what I teach, does. Billy you can’t get any more meaningful in a comment or motto than that. It’s a great pleasure to have met you on this site.
Mike
I’d show up!…maybe she will after her book comes out so theres something for her to sign…mmmm?
Funny, a similar thought crossed my mind today!
there would have to be two events, one east and
west -shoot, man maybe three - to include Canada!
security isn’t going to be tough, keep the event
low stress, green room environment - no sweaty
bodyguards to blow the decorum. Yeah, been
thinking how to work the group dynamics for
best affect. Lots of possibilities. She’d have to
work her tookie off just to plan it, but it would
pay of with a LOT of zeroes. Roadrunmch,
take some time. Write a detailed outline,
leave fleshing out details, for now. Give
us your idea in a coherent chronologic
series of events, something like a Primavera
construction timeline. What you and I have
thrown in here is all fine, pie in the sky.
Make a serious proposal; all this stuff
is fine but it ain’t free. I thought Pete
Jackson would make a great local host
when she does the New Zealand show!
Set your task to writing this as a business
proposal you would take to a banker,
for a loan to fund this project. Then,
present it here for refinement, criticism,
etc. After that? Not up to me.
This is a nice way to work through
your desire to contribute, much
bigger dream than being a minion
All I meant was, I would keep it very light. I have other sites for abstract thoughts. This is a light site, I get it.
As for the above idea?
I am done, All I am qualified for is the Ideas.
But Marina will need a lot encouragement. ( talk it up )
My Trucking is in Construction , no help .
RRR
The lite hearted
We can’t let her do it any where near Russia. They might want her back for themselves. We can’t have that to happen. She’s Russian American now. To be policticly correct. Just like RRR who is a cool Hinds 57 so to speak as he put it so gracefully the other day. I couldn’t remember all of the origins you were from so I kinda grouped you all in to one. Sorry. RRR. I am a Confederate American myself. My wife is going to NY soon it would be a good time for me to slip out to California to have a meal at the Blue Jam and meet Miss M.
I’m curious about the origin of the word ‘Prix’ in Grand Prix. When did it become the word to refer to a major car race.
Also, I voted for Blu Jam too. I love that place!
Pretty sure it means “prize” in French as in “Big Prize” for winning the race…