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Giraffe.. or is it camelopard?

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  1. sindri on November 17th, 2008 7:05 am

    I’ve heard of a few inventors and creators who can’t sleep for more than a few hours at a time. That’s as close as you can get I think Marina. Though it seems like you and HFP barely get any sleep anyways.

  2. Bob on October 3rd, 2008 2:39 pm

    I just heard a joke which I have to share:-
    Q. What do you get if you cross a camel with a leopard?
    A. A fire-side rug that you can have a good hump on. :lol:

  3. papawolf on September 7th, 2008 6:59 pm

    I am totally in love, you are an angel.

  4. sniperskaya on August 30th, 2008 10:11 am

    Marina, the name kangaroo has an interesting origin too.
    Fish, whales, sharks, etc., don’t require much, if any, sleep.
    Do ants sleep? Who cares?!

  5. Dez on August 30th, 2008 2:00 am

    Apparently there is a Camelopardalis constellation (first recorded in 1624 by Dutch astronomer Jakob Bartsch). The head of the constellation is near Polaris, and unfortunately the constellation is rather faint. But a point-to-point drawing of the major stars within it does make a crude stick figure of a giraffe.

  6. yankeegato on August 29th, 2008 7:19 pm

    Party animals don’t seem to need much sleep…
    tt

  7. fedrov on August 29th, 2008 6:53 pm

    Where does the F-WORD come from? I mean fuck ofc.. :oops:

  8. lividemerald on August 28th, 2008 10:39 pm

    Marina, what does pigeon-livered mean? I know a Chinese woman who actually takes pride in being pigeon-livered!

  9. leonard on August 28th, 2008 3:45 pm

    sounds cooler is right, borrowed from? sleep is deep

  10. Dez on August 28th, 2008 1:53 pm

    Homework: I’d say it would have to be an animal being chased by hordes of hungry predators, like a turkey on the eve of Thanksgiving. :mrgreen:

  11. animalntaz on August 28th, 2008 1:40 pm

    What “animal” gets the least amount of sleep?

    …Well, I do suffer from insomnia from time to time. :neutral:

    whitebunnyflock replied on August 28th, 2008 2:06 pm:

    for some reason goldfish comes to mind, but honestly I have no clue lol! maybe they have the shortest attention span?

  12. mittheman on August 28th, 2008 1:38 pm

    I would like to know why the English language is full of so many heteronym’s.

    Such as…

    Live
    Abuse
    Duplicate
    Dove
    Elaborate
    Perfect
    Record
    Sewer

    And so on.

    Dez replied on August 28th, 2008 1:50 pm:

    I’d guess it has a lot to do with being a conglomerate as well as an inclusive and growing language.

    mittheman replied on August 29th, 2008 4:22 am:

    If you have to record a song before you can put it on a record and you have to duplicate an item to make a duplicate; then why doesn’t something become elaborate when you elaborate on it. Also, why do you suffer from drug abuse if you abuse drugs?

    Dez replied on August 29th, 2008 12:36 pm:

    I forget how young this crowd is :smile: … Fact is… you don’t have to record a song before you put it on a record. You can record, live, directly to the record… which is how the process was done for generations before magnetic tape was developed. Perhaps you’re wondering what magnetic tape is… don’t worry, it was the technology that preceded compact discs. True, you must duplicate to make a duplicate. It is even possible to elaborate on a topic, making that topic seem elaborate… and if you have abused something you leave evidence of abuse. In the examples you provide you are comparing verb usage of a word to noun (or adjective) usage… with a slight change in pronunciation to identify one from the other. This is not a big mystery. The humorous sewer/sewer difference should illustrate the need for differing pronunciation most admirably.

  13. jamidf on August 28th, 2008 12:58 pm

    In Spanish only exist the word JIRAFA for this animal :smile:

    Dez replied on August 28th, 2008 1:45 pm:

    That would make sense, as there is a great deal of Arabic influence on the Spanish language… 750 years of occupation by the Moors.

  14. mittheman on August 28th, 2008 12:43 pm

    Marina,

    Pardon my obsequiusness, but your physiognomy is breathtaking!

    mittheman replied on August 28th, 2008 12:45 pm:

    Sorry for the mis-spelling.

    Obsequiosness.

    mittheman replied on August 28th, 2008 12:47 pm:

    Obsequiousness!!

    I finally got it right.

  15. yomero on August 28th, 2008 12:27 pm

    Hello Professor Marina. What’s the good word? :wink:

    mergatroidal replied on August 28th, 2008 12:44 pm:

    A neat word at the present moment is probe, and vote isn’t exactly off the top of the list either.                            :arrow:

    mergatroidal replied on August 28th, 2008 12:47 pm:

    Oops, wrong reply …

    prospero811 replied on August 28th, 2008 12:54 pm:

    Legs.

    Capman911 replied on August 28th, 2008 8:19 pm:

  16. danielpool52 on August 28th, 2008 12:09 pm

    923 votes

    pedantickarl replied on August 28th, 2008 12:18 pm:

    933
    Marina vote explosion ahead. Not taking it lying down…

    danielpool52 replied on August 28th, 2008 7:16 pm:

    shes got it there is no competition against her :lol:

  17. joo2goo on August 28th, 2008 11:42 am

    can u investgate miscellanaus plz :wink:

    Fan from egypt

  18. gudlak on August 28th, 2008 11:31 am

    Hello, Marina :mrgreen: will you marry me?

    By the way, I want to know the origin of the word “buzzerbeater”.

    yours sincerely,

    gudlak

    lividemerald replied on August 28th, 2008 9:33 pm:

    I was going to say Jehova’s Witnesses, but…. Never mind! Mi buzzer es su buzzer.

  19. jayvh on August 28th, 2008 11:27 am

    Hi Marina,

    I like to know why there is a difference in english between the words zero, null, nil and even love (in sport).

    mijj replied on August 28th, 2008 12:23 pm:

    yeh .. there’re a lot of words for nothing, aren’t there

    … erm … nothing, naught, nought, nada, zilch, diddly squat, zip, zilch .. etc

    jayvh replied on August 28th, 2008 1:22 pm:

    Yes there are. But I think only zero, null, nil and love are used to describe this -> 0

    cherrybomb replied on August 29th, 2008 1:21 pm:

    I could not help it. When I read this post, I instantly thought of Jethro saying “Uncle Jed that ain’t the family truck, that is my new naught-naught-seven spy car!”

    mijj replied on August 28th, 2008 1:31 pm:

    you mean in a mathematical sense?

    in that sense, i think “null” means “void” or “empty” as in not even 0.

    e.g. .. the “null set”.

  20. Capman911 on August 28th, 2008 11:26 am

    903 votes. Marina is over 900 votes now.

    tayljim replied on August 28th, 2008 11:56 am:

    908

    tayljim replied on August 28th, 2008 12:15 pm:

    933

  21. Capman911 on August 28th, 2008 11:17 am

    I think Charles Trippy is having video problems. His video is under conversion. Maybe they have seen he violated the rules and he’s having to reedit his video.

    http://www.bestweekendevercontest.com/watch/973207 858/What-Weekend?

    Marina replied on August 28th, 2008 11:35 am:

    Charles Trippy has 2 videos… his first one did not compress.. so he uploaded it again. He’s at 337 votes, in the #4 position after one night. So he’s going to probably pass me. He used part of my video in his, with my permission of course :-) But I’d still like to win!

    James replied on August 28th, 2008 12:08 pm:

    Thanks Marina. I think I will be getting a mac soon. I looked at one in a shop.. But I never figured out how to turn the camera on!! Thanks for all of the help you have given me

    James

    xx

    wetsuit5 replied on August 28th, 2008 12:26 pm:

    Even with your permission he is still in violation of the rules. :shock:
    Non “Original” content and “Third Party” content. :twisted:
    If you gave permission you couldn’t sue for using it, but then he couldn’t use it for contest purposes in the first place. :lol: :lol:
    Besides being a REAL CRUMMY video. :mad: :sad:

    prospero811 replied on August 28th, 2008 12:39 pm:

    I think by the rules they have to pick you if you are in the top 3, but the winner is decided by the website without regard to the number of votes. They pick what they think is the best video out of the three.

    buzzword replied on August 28th, 2008 6:29 pm:

    winning would be nice, but your getting good exposure. nice idea to let him use your footage, double exposure.

    pedantickarl replied on August 28th, 2008 11:43 am:

    Hi cap, Trippy has been averaging about 20 votes per hour in the last 12 hours. If Trippy surpasses Marina, all we have to do is keep Marina in the top 3 voted-for videos so she goes to the finals.

    prospero811 replied on August 28th, 2008 12:40 pm:

    Note - if you have more than one email address, you can register on that website multiple times, giving yourself 5 votes per day per email address.

    Capman911 replied on August 28th, 2008 8:28 pm:

    Moose and Squirrel and Capman911 have that part covered about more than one address :twisted:

  22. maxmuller on August 28th, 2008 11:14 am

    Hey Marina,
    if u could help me out with the origin of the word “cigarette”! :wink:

    mittheman replied on August 28th, 2008 12:35 pm:

    French for “Small Cigar.”

  23. xbobx on August 28th, 2008 10:29 am

    How about a sloth? It requires a lot of sleep, I think.

    mittheman replied on August 28th, 2008 12:32 pm:

    A three toed sloth is 14.4 hours.

    lividemerald replied on August 28th, 2008 9:42 pm:

    That’s 4.8 hours for each toe. But wait, if a sloth has three toes per appendage, then the sloth requires 1.2 hours per toe. I know quite a bit about sloths, actually, thanks to my friend Sid.

  24. sparkyinseattle on August 28th, 2008 9:52 am

    Okay, Phrase request please…

    “Freudian slip”

    I still see spots….

    mittheman replied on August 28th, 2008 12:18 pm:

    The unconscious act of making something conscious.

    lividemerald replied on August 28th, 2008 9:44 pm:

    See also references to “Freudian girdle” and “Freudian push-up bra.” Unlike Michael Salvage, Freud wasn’t quite ready to engage in psychological nudity. He felt compelled to leave some of his undergarments on.

    lividemerald replied on August 28th, 2008 9:45 pm:

    I’m such a savage. I misspelled Michael’s last name. :lol:

    lividemerald replied on August 28th, 2008 9:46 pm:

    Just trying to salvage my reputation as a good speller.

    lividemerald replied on August 28th, 2008 9:47 pm:

    Maybe it was a Freudian slip?

  25. prospero811 on August 28th, 2008 9:45 am

    Some fish don’t sleep at all, and 1/2 of a dolphin’s brain goes to sleep, while the other half stays alert to sense predators.

    aLx replied on August 28th, 2008 9:49 am:

    predators? depends on the type of dolphins. some species don’t have any.

    prospero811 replied on August 28th, 2008 10:04 am:

    sharks

    okay4now replied on August 28th, 2008 12:18 pm:

    Just ’cause we can’t see the action while sitting on the beach doesn’t mean that there isn’t any.

    aLx replied on August 28th, 2008 10:13 am:

    umm … you think any shark is gonna mess with him?

    Capman911 replied on August 28th, 2008 10:32 am:

    Your right Alx, dolphins can actually and do kill sharks just by ramming them. Plus they can out swim and out maneuver even a great white.

    prospero811 replied on August 28th, 2008 10:46 am:

    We generally call those “Killer Whales” which, although the species is a member of the dolphin family, they aren’t typically referred to as dolphins. Nevertheless, they sleep the same way (1/2 brain at a time).

    mijj replied on August 28th, 2008 11:15 am:

    [these sharks] certainly ain’t gonna mess with him.

    aLx replied on August 28th, 2008 10:57 am:

    doesn’t matter what you call them, they’re dolphins. and they don’t have to fear any predators.

    prospero811 replied on August 28th, 2008 11:08 am:

    Well, they still sleep half a brain at a time, and since that was the import of the question speculation on natural selection are collateral. Perhaps in the case of the Killer Whale it’s a vestigial feature, or perhaps it provided survival advantages for other reasons.

    pedantickarl replied on August 28th, 2008 11:06 am:

    Hi prospero811, just answering your question down below:

    “Were the rules different before?”

    Yes, the original ending date of the contest was supposed to be this Sat. Aug 30. About a day or two ago, the contest people extended the contest by two weeks to Sept 13.

    aLx replied on August 28th, 2008 11:26 am:

    while the other half stays alert to sense predators

    some species don’t have any

    sharks

    have i ever disputed that they sleep with one half of their brain? frankly, i don’t care if and why they do.

    prospero811 replied on August 28th, 2008 11:44 am:

    Another theory on dolphin sleep is that their method keeps them from suffocating or drowning.

    As I said - the portion about why they sleep with one half of their brain was collateral to the main issue.

    mittheman replied on August 28th, 2008 12:24 pm:

    Bottle Nose Dolphins actually sleep 10 1/2 hours per day.

    A Guppy sleeps 7 hours per day.

    The mammal that sleeps the most is a brown bat @ almost 20 hours per day.

    buzzword replied on August 28th, 2008 6:41 pm:

    how about god! god doesn’t sleep. unless one believes jesus is god, then he probably slept. but then jesus also spoke with god and called him father, so maybe he wasn’t god but the son of god, no wait, he was god but a god that slept and the god the father didn’t have to, so the big god didn’t sleep and the little god did. so one half of god slept while the other half of god didn’t. like dolphins do. yeah, wait… no. never mind.

    danielpool52 replied on August 28th, 2008 7:04 pm:

    :?: you are thinking of time the way we see it maybe there’s another way of seeing it that we don’t know

    BillyB replied on August 28th, 2008 7:27 pm:

    No keep working on it, Don’t give up, our (my) little pea brain can’t take it all in. Our (my) lineal thinking conflicts with my conceptual thinking & then I get tired & go to sleep, or if I’m in the mood to slack off, back to work.
    Jesus slept while the others feared for their lives, in the storm & he was awake while the others couldn’t stay awake, in the garden.

    buzzword replied on August 28th, 2008 7:34 pm:

    yeah billyb, my wife tried explaining the holy trinity to me, didn’t get that. but then she describes compassion, sacrifice and forgiveness. then we started agreeing on things.

    Capman911 replied on August 28th, 2008 8:39 pm:

    You know if humans could do like dolphins and put half their brain to sleep and keep working with the other half think of all the over time you could make. Only if your body could stand up to not resting.

    lividemerald replied on August 28th, 2008 9:50 pm:

    It depends on where you live. Sleepless in Seattle, for example.

  26. sparkyinseattle on August 28th, 2008 9:42 am

    :shock: I see spots….

    Capman911 replied on August 28th, 2008 11:31 am:

    as long as you don’t see dead people :shock:

    prospero811 replied on August 28th, 2008 12:28 pm:

    I see dumb people.

    buzzword replied on August 28th, 2008 6:43 pm:

    every time he looks in the mirror.

  27. CaptainJack on August 28th, 2008 9:38 am

    Im noticing something interesting about the ‘Favorite day of the week’ poll. Ok I know Friday and Saturday were going to be very popular, but I never would have guessed Monday would out rank Wednesday & Thursday. You hear many people talk about the Monday blues. I wonder why this is? :???:

    buzzword replied on August 28th, 2008 9:43 am:

    mondays are the days that many go to work and waste time on the internet. popularity of weekdays decrease after that as people are trying to make up for slaking off earlier in the week and must do increasing amounts of actual work toward friday.

    prospero811 replied on August 28th, 2008 9:47 am:

    Do a lot of people “slake off” at work?

    CaptainJack replied on August 28th, 2008 9:52 am:

    No Prospero, what he meant was that people take steaks off the barbecue when they are done. It’s called staking off. :razz:

    buzzword replied on August 28th, 2008 6:44 pm:

    hey cut me some slack i’m posting while i’m at work.

    Capman911 replied on August 28th, 2008 8:47 pm:

    I never really had a favorite day. Working 24 hour shifts and then off for 24 hours we only worked 10 days a month. But we worked a 56 hour work week. Then we had 4 days off straight every week. Then work three 24 hour shifts again then off 4 days in a row. This for 33 years and it gives you an excellent opportunity to work another full time second job at the same time. So now that I am retired I bring home three retirement checks each month and that doesn’t include Social security yet. :cool:

    sparkyinseattle replied on August 28th, 2008 9:48 am:

    Monday was my favorite when I loved my work and could escape the “starter wife”…. go figure….

    Cashy replied on August 28th, 2008 10:35 am:

    The last Monday in January is apparently the worst day of the year…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KWsnSRUAmk

    The science:
    formula — 1/8W+(D-d)3/8xTQMxNA
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4187183.stm

  28. CaptainJack on August 28th, 2008 9:33 am

    “If voting changed anything, they’d make it illegal.”

    - Emma Goldman -

    buzzword replied on August 28th, 2008 9:38 am:

    ha! thats funny! and so true in a very general kind of way ignoring the times in which voting did change things. u.s. citizens ought to vote more frequently, really.

    prospero811 replied on August 28th, 2008 9:48 am:

    People that vote as I do should vote more frequently. Other people can stay home.

    Capman911 replied on August 28th, 2008 8:53 pm:

    Jack you know for the first time in my life since I have been voting I really don’t know yet who I want to vote for. That kinda scares me a little. I afraid of what the republicans put us through for the last 8 years so I am concerned about voting Republican. I don’t know about Democrat because of Obama and what I personally think of his back ground. If I don’t vote I can’t blame anybody but myself for not voting. This to me is a scary year for America.

    lividemerald replied on August 28th, 2008 9:54 pm:

    On Thursday at the Democratic National Convention, Gov. Bill Richardson said more than a few words in Spanish. Then, almost immediately afterwards, he cried, “Let’s take back America!” I was kind of wondering who “us” referred to…

    lividemerald replied on August 28th, 2008 10:01 pm:

    I’m also a bit perturbed that the campaign slogan for the Obama camp is “Yes we can!” which is a direct ripoff of “Si se puede,” the Hispanic battle cry that a Hispanic lady got all of the delegates to shout earlier at the convention this week. I have nothing against HIspanics. In fact, virtually all my students are Hispanic, and I love them dearly. But the campaign slogan, and the speaking of Spanish at the convention, is speaking to a divided America–one where Americans are no longer asked to speak English. It’s not inclusion; it’s pandering. At least my students will grow up speaking English. Being bilingual is a blessing. Refusing to learn English, and expecting politicians to pander, is simply not getting with the program.

    lividemerald replied on August 28th, 2008 10:03 pm:

    I’m sticking my neck out on politics here. Nothing to do with giraffes, who, uh, stick their necks out… Disclaimer: My name is LividEmerald, and I do not necessarily support this message!

    lividemerald replied on August 28th, 2008 10:04 pm:

    Is it possible to retract our political statements? No, no se puede.

  29. koalabear on August 28th, 2008 9:29 am

    The “Best Weekend Ever” website is a lot faster now.

    Vote for Marina. :smile:

  30. russelllynn32 on August 28th, 2008 9:18 am

    I would like to Request the word ( glib. ):

    koalabear replied on August 28th, 2008 9:30 am:

    and glibc

    lividemerald replied on August 28th, 2008 10:07 pm:

    How about jibjab? (They have a political web site, as we all know.)

  31. furiafox on August 28th, 2008 9:01 am

    Hi, i`m Brazilian and would know the origin of the word LAND.
    I realy like you, good job.
    O lot of kisses

  32. BillyB on August 28th, 2008 8:56 am

    Today’s quote might be poetry

    “Hell is paved with good samaritans.” - William M. Holden

    I’d say a more acurate description would be, the “road to” hell is paved with good samaritans. Run over by the croud, because they were going the wrong way. Slay me, if you will.

    CaptainJack replied on August 28th, 2008 9:41 am:

    I agree with that 100% Billy. :mrgreen:

  33. James on August 28th, 2008 8:47 am

    Thanks for your comment on my video Marina! I want camelopard too. I am getting closer to a mac though. I just hope final cut pro isn’t to hard to use

    buzzword replied on August 28th, 2008 9:23 am:

    dude if you don’t want to spend the money for final cut pro, imovie would work just fine for the basic video your shooting. i can’t afford final cut pro, and i’ve done all my video and audio editing with imovie, it comes with your mac. i’d try imovie out first and then consider the final cut pro purchase.

    100percentjacob replied on August 28th, 2008 9:42 am:

    How much is Final Cut Pro?

    CaptainJack replied on August 28th, 2008 9:48 am:

    About $1,200 US

    foxbow15 replied on August 28th, 2008 10:34 am:

    nah, you can get it 100% free to :mrgreen:

    CaptainJack replied on August 28th, 2008 9:47 am:

    You could always try out Final Cut Express for about $200. See the comparison if Express would fit your needs. http://camcorders.about.com/od/videoediting/a/Fina lCutCompare.htm

    James replied on August 28th, 2008 10:05 am:

    I never knew you had to pay for it.. I thought finalcut came with the mac.. You can probably get off a torrent though

    CaptainJack replied on August 28th, 2008 10:36 am:

    iMovie used to come with the mac years ago. Now its part of ‘iLife’ package. Final Cut is a professional app that was never intended to be offered for free. Yes you can find any popular mac app on torrent. Copy protection on the mac side you will find very lax vs the pc side.

    James replied on August 28th, 2008 12:01 pm:

    One thing that does piss me off is this i in front of everything.. liKe thiS: iTunes iPod iLife. For gods sake apple let iT diE. iT iS so annoyiNg.

    foxbow15 replied on August 28th, 2008 12:04 pm:

    iagree

    foxbow15 replied on August 28th, 2008 10:42 am:

    yeah…mac sucks…I got crazy of that jumping update thing and installed some mac osx 10…..pack ,and now i get THIS message everytime i start it up…..I think i’m gonna reinstall mac ,cause if have no idea how to fix this applecrap

    mijj replied on August 28th, 2008 11:05 am:

    James replied on August 28th, 2008 10:05 am:

    I never knew you had to pay for it.. I thought finalcut came with the mac.. You can probably get off a torrent though

    I would suggest (my personal view) that a torrent source for the sw is valid for a copy that you’d use to asses the sw and develop skills. But, i’d say, once you intend to use the sw to post the material for general public use, get a paid-for copy.

    James replied on August 28th, 2008 11:58 am:

    I am 16. And starting college.. I can’t afford ANYTHING

    Marina replied on August 28th, 2008 12:03 pm:

    James… iMovie comes with the Mac for free and does everything you need. You only upgrade to Final Cut once you have exhausted everything that iMovie does.. but you will be fine for quite some time to come.. then when it’s time for Final Cut.. there are ways (academic for one) to get the program for practically nothing. I cna help you out there.

    protac6 replied on August 28th, 2008 7:00 pm:

    16 starting college?

    mijj replied on August 28th, 2008 12:08 pm:

    oh! :oops: .. of course .. :!:

    http://thepiratebay.org/search/final%20cut/0/99/30 0

    make sure you check the comments :)

    aLx replied on August 29th, 2008 5:03 am:

    what do you want to use your computer for? just surfing the web, making videos, do some text processing?

  34. the chalange on August 28th, 2008 8:47 am

    the animal that sleeps the least is the elephant. no wonder they always look so haggard!

  35. protac6 on August 28th, 2008 8:41 am

    Also Marina can you derive the word “super model”? Are they really “super” to begin with? Whats so differerent between supermodels and models :?: :???:

    Thanks Marina

    CaptainJack replied on August 28th, 2008 10:44 am:

    They just are the tops in their industry. You can use Pro Models vs Armature Models because they both are making money as a profession. Think of it this way. Very popular actors that make the big bucks vs average actors that get very little pay.

    mijj replied on August 28th, 2008 10:59 am:

    Armature Models

    your elec eng background seeped into your post, CJ.

    animalntaz replied on August 28th, 2008 1:09 pm:

    I think it started with, what’s her name? Janice Dickens? That former supermodel who’s looks are now like a roller coaster. Anyway, she claimed to be the first supermodel when she tried exaggerating her model status, back in the ’80s, I think.

    protac6 replied on August 28th, 2008 6:59 pm:

    I always seem to think of like super heroes when I hear the word supermodel. Must be my inner child kicking in. :mrgreen:

  36. protac6 on August 28th, 2008 8:39 am

    OOH OOH OOH! Pick me for the next teacher’s pet Ms. Orlova pleaseeeeee!

    Also did you hear a quote by this one supermodel named Linda Evangelista? It went like “It was God who made me so beautiful, if I weren’t I’d be a teacher.” Good stuff Marina for proving her wrong AND looking better than her!

  37. pig-in-a-poke on August 28th, 2008 8:38 am

    Привет мой дорогой преподаватель,

    Your expert abilities with words reminded me of my believe, rightly or not, that Russians were very good at reading between the lines of the formerly state controlled newspaper, Pravda, thus creating very critical thinkers of the political environment. (Am I over-thinking this? :idea: )

    With this in mind, I wondered if Russians follow the United States’ Presidential election and what their reactions are regarding the candidates.
    Спасибо.

    С уважением,

    Ваш Дорогой Студент

    mijj replied on August 28th, 2008 10:54 am:

    If that’s true, then why hasn’t the average american (or brit) managed to develop the same ability with his own news media?

    Western corporate media has been much better at blinkering opinion than the state run efforts of the ex-USSR. Why is that, i wonder?

    prospero811 replied on August 28th, 2008 12:31 pm:

    I would dispute the premise that the western media has “blinkered” opinion better than the state run efforts of the former Soviet Union. On what do you base that allegation?

    mijj replied on August 28th, 2008 10:56 am:

    (i was referring to: “Russians were very good at reading between the lines of the formerly state controlled newspaper, Pravda, thus creating very critical thinkers of the political environment.”)

    pig-in-a-poke replied on August 28th, 2008 11:58 am:

    Thanks for your reply, Mijj. Perhaps, we buy the “pig in a poke” because we assume we are getting the real deal and don’t look in the bag first. The packaging is so impressive.

    mijj replied on August 28th, 2008 12:57 pm:

    I think, because the USSR state view was so easily disseminated (centralized state control of information), there was no effort to actually make it become the receiver’s viewpoint. The state merely expected it to become the receiver’s viewpoint because it said so.

    Along with that, i presume there was felt little need to get feedback on the effectiveness of the propaganda.

    In the west though (US particularly), there’s much more knowledge of the psychology of effective propaganda. e.g. splash headlines might make a suggestive point one way and it would be contradicted in the body of the analysis. The mass of people are susceptible to the headlines. Those who go into details of political analysis are in the minority. So, propaganda is deniable.

    Of course, G.Bush’s government is more in the style of the Soviet Union, hence it only made half hearted attempts to create effective propaganda and relied more on assertion and intimidation.

    The next US government will be more subtle.

    pig-in-a-poke replied on August 28th, 2008 1:26 pm:

    More subtle? Do you mean like getting knifed in the back instead of the forehead? Either way, you’ve been had. The press should be the entity shouting, “Watch out!” Not, “Ooooh, did you see that? Shock and awe, impressive.” Boneheads!

    mijj replied on August 28th, 2008 7:19 pm:

    i mean more subtle in the way the propaganda works.

    i.e. .. instead of the blustering machismo of the bush years, there will be a hand-wringing concern that certain actions must be taken in the best interests of … etc. … rather than the Bush years hysterical “we have to attack or we’ll be exterminated” type stuff.

    e.g. .. Bush is rightly accused of war crimes committed against Iraq. However, why is Clinton rarely mentioned? .. he’s responsible for the same order of magnitude of deaths in Iraq. By sanctions designed to maintain the crippled state of iraq he also ensured a huge death toll because of lack of essential supplies.
    e.g. “UN figures show that up to 5,000 children a month die in Iraq because of the sanctions against Iraq”
    http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/sanction/iraq 1/2000/clinton.htm

    buzzword replied on August 28th, 2008 8:13 pm:

  38. donis on August 28th, 2008 8:13 am

    hi there…
    i wonder if there is something about word ”Botox”
    maybe it’s just for me, but i think this word is weird + i dont like how it sounds…
    tnx.

    James replied on August 28th, 2008 8:18 am:

    I might need that.

    foxbow15 replied on August 28th, 2008 9:36 am:

    Botulinetoxine…I think it’s like one of the most toxic matter know to humans, and that’s what millions of people inject in their face, kinda weird :lol:

    foxbow15 replied on August 28th, 2008 9:40 am:

    that would be Botulinum toxin in English…

  39. huggles131 on August 28th, 2008 7:01 am

    Marina,
    I would like to know where the phrase, “Knocked up” came from.

    animalntaz replied on August 28th, 2008 1:13 pm:

    Well, it definetly would not come from no “40 year-old virgin”. That’s for sure. :lol:

    lividemerald replied on August 28th, 2008 10:13 pm:

    Doesn’t nacht up mean to stay awake at night?

  40. buzzword on August 28th, 2008 6:55 am

    okay, so argentina and england are arguing about the falklands, u.s. and russian hegemonies are in conflict. this shit seems very familiar. if one is really interested in words and rhetoric and their role in influencing world events, now is a great time to observe and analyze the communications occurring between governments.

    mijj replied on August 28th, 2008 7:40 am:

    .. eh?

    buzzword replied on August 28th, 2008 9:12 am:

    just saying, if one is interested in understanding significant political events by studying rhetoric. the best opportunity is to analyze the earliest communications. frequently popular opinion is based on the headlines that emerge as a response to an escalation in aggressive posturing. i think that many miss the opportunity to understand the basic details of these events that are carried in the most immediate exchanges prior to front page attention.

    i’ve been trying to follow the communications regarding a navy vessel bringing relief materials to georgia. accompanying them was an armed navy vessel. there was a lot of exchanges made regarding which port to enter, one was still in control of russian forces, how close should the armed ship be, what was the relief ship really carrying and so on. as well as the rhetoric by our lame duck president and that of putin and medvedev, the responses of ambassadors and other officials in associated countries.

    this type of information became really relevant when england sunk that ship in the falklands war. to make a really informed judgment i think you have to start analyzing the most immediate rhetoric and stay on top of it and compare it to new information, instead of waiting around for a president or prime minister to tell you what to think.

    mijj replied on August 28th, 2008 9:41 am:

    :oops: I was playin’ dumb ‘cos i’m drawn to the subject. However, i promised to myself i’d keep schtum on politics ‘cos i tend to get a little vicious and shame myself.

    buzzword replied on August 28th, 2008 9:47 am:

    oh… apologies for the diatribe then. i wonder if there is a hotforpolitcs.com?

    aLx replied on August 28th, 2008 9:52 am:

    this is why an attached forum would be a good idea. :X

    prospero811 replied on August 28th, 2008 10:05 am:

    forum attached to what?

    aLx replied on August 28th, 2008 10:14 am:

    attached to this site.