Chicken little was Right…random for a friend…thanks free hope; have a positive way to live and trust not value of someones-elses money…:-) hens and roosters ha-ha
I consider my self to be a [libertarian] I find both [wings] to be [dis][taste][ful]. it seems that the left wing wants to take my [money] but will let me determine my own [morality], while the right wing will let me keep my [dollar]s but wants to [dictate] how I should act.
It [seem]s that there should be a better way, and I would post a link to it if our lovely host would [consent]…
and now tell me :
why until the end of the war NSDAP was a left wing and after war its called right wing?
media call todays NS politics and supporters extreme right wing ,while socializm is left wing
lol! during a religion in the modern world class took last semester, it explained how liberal and conservative developed caused be the protestant reformation. It explains alot! grizzlies16 i love your mind!
“Left-wing radicals swarm to free foundation money, where they can give gigantic grants to one another and they will never have to do a day’s work.” Ann Coulter
The picture you show of the National Assembly is in fact the Tennis Court Oath. The tennis court was the largest indoor area they could find to have their meeting. Of course its not the tennis you might think of today but rather the original game of tennis known as Jeu de Paumme Royale (fr), Real Tennis (uk), Royal Tennis (au) and Court Tennis (us). And the source of many great words and phrases used throughout today.
I’m definately closer to right wing (McCain/Palin ‘08!), though still close to the middle. I wouldn’t have guessed the etymology of these expressions would have been so simple as how people arranged themselves, still cool to know though.
Is not a good idea considering someone under the left or th right, I think the people maybe likes ideas of both sides… not everything is black or white.
Hello Marina. Good news!!
My request for getting 3 of your video unflagged worked.
I made a list of flagged videos and requested that 3 of them be unflagged. The ones I did not request to be unflagged are still flagged, incl. the Antidisestablishmentarianism video.
Now that I know that YT honors unflagging requests, I will be my honor to get the rest of your videos unflagged.
Hi Marina this is my first request, love the site and the channel, so recently you did the word Loon, well I would like to know the origin of the word Looner, I see many people using it on utube videos etc and am curious as to what this means, I’m sure you will do it justice in your usual way.
why is it that Marina can discuss the meanings and origins of perfectly valid (in the context of linguistics) words and phrases such as cock, vagina, muff diving, clitoris, fellatio, etc .. and we all accept this as perfectly reasonable. (which it is, of course.)
… but as soon as her students are presented with the Dominatrix Test in order to test our comprehension in a meaningful way, we get all flustered and frothy headed.
Surely, words aren’t just dusty old things with definitions to be recited and derivations to be discussed. Surely words are living vibrant things that have meaning and significance in the real organic world. And that includes the taboo words that Marina can examine but seems get us flustered.
does this mean that Marina’s students aren’t really paying attention to their lessons? Does this mean we’re really not interested in what M has to say about these words .. is it that we just like hearing a beautiful woman talk dirty?
below is the test .. maybe someone can comment.
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You are completing this test on behalf of the version of Marina presented in her Videos.
This will help to evaluate Video Marina’s screen character and presence.
Your result for The Could You Be A Good Dominatrix Test …
Woman on Top
You scored 55% Dominance and 53% Technique!
You enjoy being in charge and it shows. You know just what to do to have your partner at your beck and call. And if he should become unavailable, no doubt there are men lined up to do your bidding. Hell, I’m getting interested just typing this.
Whatever you do, don’t change a thing. And give me a shout if you ever want to, um, discuss things.
just needs a small tweak to be appropriate for the test context :
i.e. you were completing it on behalf of Marina.
therefore:
Woman on Top
Marina scored 55% Dominance and 53% Technique!
Marina enjoys being in charge and it shows. She knows just what to do to have her student at her beck and call. And if he should become unavailable, no doubt there are other students lined up to do her bidding.
i actually think this is useful research material for Marina. She can use the results of the tests to determine the imagined type of character her perverted students might prefer her to represent. … and then, of course, she’d portray the opposite type, because that’s what cruel Marina would do.
oh, man..I just realised were talking about chicks in HFW class… Our Dear Teacher’s gonn have us in detention for a week! Damn!… Good!… I mean Damn Good!
A simple reason could be this:
The words you give as an example above have
anatomical and biological meaning, and some
are inherently humorous by their corrupted use.
The whole dominatrix thing is purely sexual and
this test tries to personalise it to the individual
taking the test. Since the questions are about
a deviant sexual nature, as compared to a test
about whether you are a virgin or a sexually
aroused human animal, it is found that one
is more insulted than amused by the types of
questions asked. Slave auctions and naked
house boys are not appealing to my tastes
at all.This test lambasts you with a series
of these questions, leaving no opportunity
to answer in a way which rejects the behaviors
suggested. One example of this type of Q&A
asks the question: “Have you stopped beating
your wife?”. If you have never beat your wife,
there is no truthful answer you can give. It
attempts to pigeon hole you as a wife beater!
Word request: stunned
as in = Leaders in Congress were stunned
when their piece-of -sh*t legislation was rejected.
(Guess I have to quit reading the news, again)
Heck, *I* even *ASKED HIM* to post it…. thought it would be campy fun, but heck, I never even venture into the deep end of my sandbox, let alone some of the places that quiz took me. Welcome to HFW, this morning, ChaCha!
“whole dominatrix thing is purely sexuall”
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well .. that’s your personal feeling .. i feel the dominatrix thing has an underlying foundation of humour.
“the questions are about a deviant sexual nature”
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at no point are you required to indicate an indulgence in what you’d think of as deviant sexual behavior. All the sex in there is standard stuff.. but just in a dominatrix context.
“This test lambasts you with a series of these questions, leaving no opportunity to answer in a way which rejects the behaviors suggested.”
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given that the test is for the Dominatrix Style .. then the questions will be of that nature.
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it’s like criticizing a quiz testing your fighting style for being about aggression.
Well, after reading all the many exchanges between members and the TAs doing their job, this site is very entertaining. I have learned many new words and seen some pretty strange opinions. But, it has stayed within the boundaries of polite which is refreshing to say the least. So, kudos to all below my comment for you all are doing a good job and being respectful to each other. I see some tense exchanges but the comments end on a postive or compromising note which is helpful and does not contribute to an escalating conflict. I am a new member as some have commented and will be around for as long as the good Lord will allow me. Hello everyone from the last frontier or my state of Alaska. I look forward to talking to all of you. My word for the day is TRILLION which I will not expand onto since today was a historic day. Have a good week everyone. NakedBullwinkle
Hmm.. observation: We count our birthdays.
Queries: Why would we do this? Is it some sort of contest to see who can live the longest? If the afterlife (heaven) is so much better, why haven’t we all chosen to drink the Kool-aid? If a contest, might there be soon a means to guarantee a win?
I have read it a couple of times and have no idea what you are saying. You focused on being so clever in your comments that any point you were trying to make seems to be lost or only known by you. So, if you could translate for me since english in my only language, I may be able to retort. You could get in your car tomorrow and drive through a green light and be killed in an instant. I had an experience very similiar to that situation and realize how quickly life can turn in literally one second. I made the right decision and able to write this this annoying response to you. So, when I say when the word Lord and suggest limited time, I am saying that I do possess an immortal soul and it could be snatched away very quickly to the other side or the after life or heaven which I want to be some day. And, I never drank kool aid as a kid and knew better for it tasted like crap until you dumped a crap load of sugar and then tasted like sweet crap. So, I do not drink kool aid as a child and have no interest in anyone suggesting I may be drinking kool aid today if it is referencing my I belief in God, Jesus, and heaven. If that offends anyone, I do not care. It is really just that simple. So, back to you in the studio….
Drink the Kool-aid was a reference to a previous video (click the blue words to see it). I am not taking exception to your religious views, in fact would have to say that we almost agree on the existence of a supreme deity, which point I will not debate. Click the blue words in my initial post for a gentlman from Oxford who suggests the possibility of eliminating aging as a cause of death. Further, I agree 100% that even barring trauma, since the gentleman’s ideas have yet to come to fruition, I may even collapse with a heart attack before I even get to read your reply to this post.
I probably should have opened this one on a new thread. For clarity, the topic I wish to discuss is the possibulity of eliminating aging as a cause of death.
Hi Marina, On the “100-million-video-views” page you said; “I’ll throw in a personal love letter from me mailed via postal mail to the top 10 winners!”. Should I send you my address to the contact page?
At the rate the Dow power-dove yesterday, with inaction, I think we’re probably more on the time scale of days and weeks before catastrophic collapse of the entire US economy. Were I president, I would have imposed martial law on the congress. Not to force them to pass that particular draft of the bill into law, but to pass SOMETHING. “We don’t like this, therefore we shall do nothing” is the option I would prohibit. I would enforce the sole option to congress of not leaving until they say what they WILL pass.
I thought I made a reply to this yesterday but it appears to be gone. I suppose you missunderstood, I am talking about a real time physcial effort to remove there shit off his Moon( GOD’S Moon) they have screwed up a delicate balance in the very nature of the of the makeup of the function of this part of the solar system. He says fixit or its start over time before long. I am not interested in elections, I am not interested in economics, I am not interested in starting any companys, I am interested in the USA repairing something they want but can’t have. But as I have stated above I am just the messenger. stated above.
God sets up governments for his own purposes he can and will and has took them down and destroyed them for his own purposes.But as I have stated above I am just the messenger
You have a suggestion for a better model? Current one is quite complex, and though I barely understand it, it’s the model that’s copied the world around. But presuming this model to indeed obsolete, what to replace it with?
I’m not ready to try to survive through a revolution. I used to be a paramedic, and believe that so long as we have a viable patient, CPR to the ER, any non-contra-indicated therapeutic modalities should be employed. Velvet Green Not the one I was singing, but one that I found instead.
i have to admit .. in the event of economic structural destruction, i’d probably be in the first tranche of people to suffer. but we all have to go sometime, and it might as well be in an interesting context.
“I don’t WANNA play ‘Socioeconomic Collapse’, Why can’t we play ‘Twister’ with Marina, her sister H4W, her sister Lisanova, and Einstein’s trainer Stephanie?”
In a recent email to the Captain, I observed the Spork Family Tree, comparing this site to the grapefruit spoon. This site being like the love-child offspring of a tryst between chatrooms and email.
i’m used to forums .. i originally thought the site would be better structured as a forum .. stupid me .. i think that this is good. there are problems with the details .. e.g … these branches only allow a certain depth … and it’s very hard to maneouver up and down the page when it biggens up. (:smile:)
do you use the coComments thing? .. or do you use the actual site page?
i have the feeling coComments should be good to use .. but when i see it and try to make sense of it, i just can’t get past the feeling that it’s a load of old confusing crap.
BOOZE
TRAIN(did the word exist before the machine)
CAR
TRUCK
VAN
BUGGIE
PEEPING TOM
LEEWAY
CROSS MY HEART AND HOPE TO DIE
DRINK YOU UNDER THE TABLE
JACK OF ALL TRADES
JACK
FOUL
NTH DEGREE
DIBS
HIGH 5
ARCADE
BREAKFAST
FREESTYLE
1. More than 98 percent of convicted felons are bread users.
2. Fully HALF of all children who grow up in bread-consuming households score below average on standardized tests.
3. In the 18th century, when virtually all bread was baked in the home, the average life expectancy was less than 50 years; infant mortality rates were unacceptably high; many women died in childbirth; and diseases such as typhoid, yellow fever, and influenza ravaged whole nations.
4. More than 90 percent of violent crimes are committed within 24 hours of eating bread.
5. Bread is made from a substance called “dough.” It has been proven that as little as one pound of dough can be used to suffocate a mouse. The average North American eats more bread than that in one month!
6. Primitive tribal societies that have no bread exhibit a low incidence of cancer, Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s disease, and osteoporosis.
7. Bread has been proven to be addictive. Subjects deprived of bread and given only water to eat begged for bread after as little as two days.
8. Bread is often a “gateway” food item, leading the user to “harder” items such as butter, jelly, peanut butter, and even cold cuts.
9. Bread has been proven to absorb water. Since the human body is more than 90 percent water, it follows that eating bread could lead to your body being taken over by this absorptive food product, turning you into a soggy, gooey bread-pudding person.
10. Newborn babies can choke on bread.
11. Bread is baked at temperatures as high as 240 degrees Celsius! That kind of heat can kill an adult in less than one minute.
12. Most bread eaters are utterly unable to distinguish between significant scientific fact and meaningless statistical babbling.
In light of these frightening statistics, we propose the following bread restrictions:
1. No sale of bread to minors
2. A nationwide “Just Say No To Toast” campaign, complete celebrity TV spots and bumper stickers.
3. A 300 percent federal tax on all bread to pay for all the societal ills we might associate with bread.
4. No animal or human images, nor any primary colors (which may appeal to children) may be used to promote bread usage.
5. The establishment of “bread-free” zones around schools.
It is a known fact that bread was sent to planet earth to disrupt our diets. Places like Dominoes pizza are unknowing agents of this disruption. The people who make a lot of dough from convincing us to eat this crap should be flattened by a rolling pin, greased up and baked! Next, put them in the space shuttle and send them back home. This has got to stop!
eric812 wants to know about ‘nerd’ I could swear I remember seeing her do a piece or refer to it in another vid, but can’t find it to give them the link… help?
ok .. this is my result for completing the dominatrix test on behalf of the fictional Video Marina … (not to be confused with the actual Marina)
Woman on Top
Marina scored 58% Dominance and 60% Technique!
Woman on Top
Marina enjoys being in charge and it shows. She knows just what to do to have her student at her beck and call. And if he should become unavailable, no doubt there are other students lined up to do Marina’s bidding.
now .. i’ve only been here a relatively short time .. and i’ve been through a couple of self-imposed Marina Video droughts .. but i think thats a fair result for the Marina in the videos.
engineering creativity is the essential impulse and direction, science is a tool used to clear the path.
there is a glamor and purity to science, engineering is hard nosed and dirty. Therein lies the confusion. The spark of creativity is rooted in the dirty reality of engineering .. the otherworldly clinical scientific analysis follows as identified by the engineering requirements.
the guy confuses the relative status of scientists and engineers in society with the elemental significance of their fields.
that’s not a klein bottle! .. a klein bottle is a 4 dimensional object .. that’s an imperfect 3d representation of a klein bottle.
(in the 4d object, the neck loops back into the body of the bottle like a handle – but without crossing the surface .. whereas in the 3d object there’s, naturally, an intersection with the surface of the bottle)
Your result for The Awesome Test of Awesomeness. …
Awesomely Scary
53% Scary, 40% Respected and 0% Cool!
It looks like Scary was your greatest variable! You are awesome like a Greek God, unpredicatable, powerful, generally terrifying… but in a good way! You might frequently lust for awesomeness. You probably surround yourself with loyal subjects, people who you can shower with the effects of your own awesome nature. They need you. You are Awesome!
Awesomely Scary
It looks like Scary was your greatest variable! You are awesome like a Greek God, unpredictable, powerful, generally terrifying… but in a good way! You might frequently lust for awesomeness. You probably surround yourself with loyal subjects, people who you can shower with the effects of your own awesome nature. They need you. You are Awesome!
you know, the crowd in this site isn’t generally community minded .. so i’ll vote for the Dominatrix test so it;s 2 out of 3 so we can begin. (otherwise we’ll be here for hours waiting for another damned vote)
For what it’s worth, my results:
It looks like Respected was your greatest variable! That means you are awe-fully awesome. Folks know you and your awesomeness. You don’t flaunt your powers in front of the general public. You probably don’t want to make others feel bad, and we respect you for that. Not everyone can be as respected as you. You are Awesome!
Awesomely Cool
33% Scary, 27% Respected and 40% Cool!
It looks like Cool was your highest variable! This means that you are awesome fun. You tend to look at the lighter side of things. You don’t take your awesomeness quite as seriously as a Scary Awesome person or a Respected Awesome person. Instead, your awesomeness is merely a byproduct of you enjoying life to the fullest.
… if these people who link to her site are flagged as porn merchants (or similar) .. then this stains the site they link to (i.e. hfw) .. is that the idea?
“This came right after her TV exposure so no telling what kind of nut would want to cause havoc for HFW. I have my own suspicions.”
so .. this is a YouTuber who watched Bill O’Reilly.
The only people who watch Bill O’Reilly for that episode are Bill O’Reilly fans and HFW fans.
And you dont think this is a genuine prude, but someone out to create mischief?
I think most everyone has given up for the night. Because of the video lasting so long. It’s a shame someone did that to Marina’s videos. I think it has a lot to do with the poor ratings from her utube site.
It looks like Cool was your highest variable! This means that you are awesome fun. You tend to look at the lighter side of things. You don’t take your awesomeness quite as seriously as a Scary Awesome person or a Respected Awesome person. Instead, your awesomeness is merely a byproduct of you enjoying life to the fullest. You are Awesome!
Mijj, my friend, to elaborate
search ‘codswallop’
there are two channels listed
one is laaSEXYbebe at one time it liked to an adult “dating” site
but something changed now the link is gone. I suspect YT called
SPAM on his link.
The other is a religious fanatic site called mikhaelangelo it uses a thumbnail of Marina’s actual video.
Tks for giving me a chance to be more accurate
It is possible if someone got a slap on the hand by YT
they may be inclined to seek revenge
If only she could find out who flagged her and for what reason.
This came right after her TV exposure
so no telling what kind of nut would want
to cause havoc for HFW.
I have my own suspicions.
Mijj do you know how to save a whole page in Firefox so I can cut out a picture from with in the page? Say I froze a video and wanted to save the frozen image how could I do that
if you’re only interested in capturing an image that’s completely visible on the webpage, then i dont think you only need to use the screen capture thing that comes with windows, and clip out the bit you need.
… only thing is, im not sure what the screencapture thing is with windows .. i installed a fancier version. .. i think if you key “printscreen” .. that’ll generate a pic of the screen.
but you’ll need a simple image editor to clip out the bit you need
What I meant was that they are usually highly rated. But with most of her videos being flagged it is slowing down the process. Does that make since? It sorta does and it doesn’t. Know what I mean Hmmmmm
oh .. i see .. yeh .. the flagging thing is impeding ppl who want to view and score the vids.
but surely requiring an extra mouse click to get through wouldnt mess things up that much, would it?
(dont forget .. complete novice to the mysteries of youtube)
but if all you wnat to do is capture someting that’s entirely visible on a webpage .. then you dont need anything fancy .. just use the “printscreen” thing … but .. i’m not too sure about how that works …
No not really. It’s just another step people have to take to view the video. But some how Youtube slows down her ratings because of the flagging of the videos even the ones that’s not flagged.
you realise you’re completing this on behalf of Marina? She’s otherwise engaged and has asked for you to do this based upon your understanding of her from her vids.
That was great! When Starbucks first came to
my area, they served decent coffee – then, they
changed it to something more resembling black
swampwater – Yuck! Step 3 – get away FAST!
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This means there will never be another video ever again.
I think M you will have to work out another strategy as after 2 days apparantley there has only been 40, thousand views. Which is totally incorrect . they must be doing views in about 200 every hour. My videos are doing it too. GRR YOUTUBE
I have a love hate relationship with YT. They are the best video site and yet they still an infant company. I think they company would go much further if the upper level management rethinks their strategy.
Hi, just found out about your site and have enjoyed looking at your videos and information here….thanks! I’d like to request some history on the word “whippersnapper” when you have time. Years ago, a librarian attempted to look it up for us and could only find a vague reference in early 1900’s Enlish literature, but no firm origin or definition of the word. Can you scrounge up the truth?
DOES MARINA ENCOURAGE COMMENTS ON REQUESTED WORDS? Since this seems to be an ongoing polemic, I’m sure we would all like to put this matter to rest. Because I was getting a lot of flack when I began commenting on requests, and even TA Mike asked me to refrain from this, I told him that I’d agree provided Marina felt the same way. Capt. Jack then commented on the confusion that can result when even a TA attempts to speak for Marina: He stated, “I do agree about the conflict that could arise from what a TA interprets what Marina’s will is.” He then e-mailed her on my behalf and reported back to me, saying, “Marina does encourage comments on requested words.” He added, “Marina also said she would like to keep this site as organic and freewheeling as possible.”
Look, I fully understand the psychology that develops when a cadre of “old timers” develops on a site. A sense of ownership naturally occurs, part of which is the tendency to dictate to newcomers what they deem acceptable and taboo. In short, they presume to speak for Marina. If ballsy newcomers like yours truly don’t come along now and then and shake up such entrenched behavior, the site ceases to be “as organic and freewheeling as possible.”
On the other hand, this does not mean that we should act completely without inhibition or common courtesy. For example, in basically anonymous forums such as this, some feel justified in “letting it all hang out,” speaking in ways they would never resort to were they sitting in a room filled with men, women, adults, and teens. As is my personal and professional nature, I initially went with the flow and took off the gloves when an adversary did the same. Now that I’m making my point, I assure you this will not happen again. Meanwhile, I’m hardly a pedantic prude; a discussion about profane or vulgar words is one thing, but their gratuitous use here does not reflect well on Marina. Also, I love humor — but not if it’s cruel and at someone else’s expense.
OF COURSE Marina encourages us to contribute to word requests; what dedicated teacher does not take delight in seeing her students helping one another and learning to do research for themselves? Capt. Jack tells me that Marina’s list of requested words has now grown to around two million! With this present inventory alone, she could do several videos a week for the rest of her life and not even scratch the surface of the requests she already has. Cap assures me that no request is ignored, but he missed my point on this. He meant that all requests are considered; but, if someone makes a request and never receives a reply, from their point of view it is ignored.
I have no intention or desire to take over the site or force Marina into exile. As the saying goes, “My Mama didn’t raise me to be no fool.” She could make videos of herself reading the back of a box of Corn Flakes and most of us would still be here, panting for more; but I love the language as much as she does, and I want to help keep her from becoming further swamped by taking on some of the more mundane requests; and, the more we do the same, the more those who make requests will not go away empty-handed. Earlier, I made a request of my own, curious about why we call Deutschland “Germany”; and, to my delight, pedantickarl did a lot of research on his own and gave me a detailed explanation. How proud Marina must be about this sort of extra-credit student homework!
If I’ve gone wrong anywhere here, I hope Marina herself will set me straight. Meanwhile, all I ask is that everyone please honor her wishes and remember that she encourages our participation in word requests and she wants to keep this site as organic and freewheeling as possible. That’s it; your turn. Thanks for your time and thoughtful consideration.
alx replied on February 19th, 2008 4:06 pm:
not an easy question.
“deutsch” (”german”) comes from lat. “theodiscus”. “theodiscus” is a word “invented” by scholars to distinguish latin from, and refer to, the language that the “ordinary” people spoke. it comes from germanic ” *theod-” (”folk”, “people”) + “-isk(a)”. “-isk” is a suffix that “makes” adjectives. so, “theodisk” actually means “folkish”. but, it referred only to the langauge. old high german (about 700 — 1100 ad) knows the word “diutisk” or “diutisc”. that changed over time to “deutsch”.
as for “germany”. I’m not sure. only thing I recall is that it comes from latin “germanus”. “germanus” should be older than “theodiscus”.
as for “france”, I can only guess. a germanic tribe, the franks, settled in an area around what today is toulouse. they replaced the wisigoths who then went further west and settled in a region which is now spain. so, “france” maybe comes from the franks.
right next to franks, to the east, settled another tribe. the allemanni. so, the franks and the alemanni were neighbours. maybe this is where “allemagne” comes from.
Hm ! Toulouse ? No ! The capital of the Franks was Soissons not very far from Chantilly (you know the Crème Chantilly ?)
Toulouse is to Soissons the same as Dallas for Boston in the US.
Welcome to France !
Wow, thanx, aLx! Both you and Karl have definitely linked the two names; but have you found any indication that the Germans themselves use the words “German” or “Germany” with reference to their country or language?
I also feel your additional info on France opens a cornucopia that Marina could harvest fruitfully: How various countries got their names and why our names for them often differ from their present official name
Jeez, nb, don’t you ever lighten up? Likening my post to War And Peace is just fine with you; one’s attention span has nothing whatsoever to do with intelligence; and it’s a proven fact that attention spans in general have declined appreciably because of the deluge of snapshot media bytes. Sheesh.
The reason there seems to be confusion on this issue is that some of us “old-timers” remember Marina herself posting just such an admonition about not answering word requests, as it spoils her opportunity to make a video about that word.
I can remember her doing so on at least two occasions. Maybe her attitude has changed in the meantime as her list of word requests has grown, so I think it would be helpful to have a definitive statement of policy from Marina.
I would also like to suggest that there should be a new “landing page” for visitors arriving at the site, on which is to be found a brief summary of how the site works, to check the past lessons page before making word requests, to avoid flaming, spamming and reacting to spammers and flamers, and any other things which Marina and the TAs think necessary to keep this a pleasant place to visit. I’m not thinking of a long list of rules here, but I cannot believe that organic and free-wheeling is synonymous with anarchy.
Well, Bob, regarding Marina’s policy on requests, I feel we already have a definitive statement from her in this regard: “Marina does encourage comments on requested words.” Seems clear as it can be; but, as I said in my post, if I’m wrong about anything, I trust she will set me and us straight. I also assume we’ll hear from Capt. Jack on this, as well.
I like your idea about an orientation page for newbies. Free-wheeling does suggest anarchy, but we must remember that Russians are far more “discreet” behavior-wise than we are. They are strictly purists regarding their language and the sloppy use thereof, so Marina’s use of these terms undoubtedly falls well short of anarchy.
Ok first off I want to correct some of facts.
“He then e-mailed her on my behalf and reported back to me, saying, “Marina does encourage comments on requested words.” He added, “Marina also said she would like to keep this site as organic and freewheeling as possible.” ”
No I did not email her on your behalf. These were comments of old emails Marina had sent to me on a different subject. I know you haven’t read all the comments on previous lessons but she has stated a bit how she would like to see the site flow.
About what I meant in regards of replying to word requests is like Bob pointed out is that it does spoil her opportunity to make a video on that word or phrase. What she was suggesting is that we start a discussion about the word request. She also wants us to guess what the origin of a word or what we heard on the street as the common etymology of that word. Sure anyone of us can go and get access to the OED and many other books and answer all the requests. That’s easy. But I ask you what fun is that? I too did as you did and tried to answer all the requests. Now I just leave most of them be, which I find it very hard to leave a question unanswered. I do chime in for any words with nautical origins. I even have the sources to back up my claims. But even so Marina has found words with deep nautical origins that I could not find. “BJ” word is one example. None of my books listed it. So Im very cautious when I reply to a word request.
As for Marina’s word list. Yes she will never get though it all. Thats not the goal here. I see this site as a place to learn a bit about the stories behind the etymology of some of these words. Nice to see a video with pictures on the subject and a very pretty philologist teaching me the back story. Marina vs reading the OED, I would pick Marina any day.
As for a policy page or a newbie page. I don’t think it’s going to happen. It would have been up years ago if this was a concern to Marina. It has been suggested many times before. I think thats what Marina was talking about free flowing and organic. No putting people in a box and giving them big rules to follow, just a few guide lines.
I hope my comment makes sense and I hope I didn’t offend you in any way. Im just trying to give you an idea how things are presently working around here. What I mean about presently is that things change here often. This site is very organic and everything I said could all change in one day. Its however Miss M see fit.
I welcome your input in all this. I also look forward to your future comments here on the HFW site. I think I can learn a lot from you.
Nice job Captain and thanks for your comments earlier. I am a avid kayaker and am trying to get more salt in my blood each day (paddling that is). And, here is Alaska, kayaking is a dream come true. Anyone who loves the sea, is all right by me. Have a great week, sir!!!!
I too like Kayaking. I have an inflatable that isn’t too horrible. I plan to get one of those framed inflatables. I really want a nice wooden kayak. I met the guys from Redfish a few weeks ago and I love their stuff. Might have to just get one and buy a bigger sailboat to put it on. What I love about kayaking is it brings you right up with nature, naked so to speak.
Hi, Jack –
Thanks for your feedback: Here’s mine.
The exchange to which I refer occurred as follows (and you can check it out yourself:
1. Mike asked me to stop commenting on word requests.
2. I asked him to check with Marina for me on this.
3. His macho response was, “You got it pal. I’ll e-mail her right now.”
4. I never heard from him again, so when you responded in the same thread, I naturally assumed it was a result of the e-mail he had promised to send her on my behalf. Since you now say this was not so, why have I never heard about Marina’s response to the e-mail he supposedly sent her on my behalf?
What has happened, though, is that he has launched a rather paranoidal diatribe against me (see near the bottom on this page) in which fianchetto1 played my advocate, to which Capman911 replied, “So your saying Jack and I should just sit back and let the good doctor take over the site. If you will go back to the last couple of videos he has answered most of the word requests….” His bogus assertion paints me as vacuuming up requests like a Hoover from Hell. You also imply that I tend to answer most requests, while you “tend to let most of them be.” FYI, Jack, I do exactly the same as you. I also feel that whatever info I impart regarding words can never interfere with the kind of back stories Marina’s research provides. I assure you that I, too, am very cautious when I reply to a word request, and I’ve answered less and less since I first joined up.
Finally, surely you must admit that your statement, “Marina does encourage comments on requested words” clearly implies that she wants us to comment on the words requested and not on how we should relate to word requests in general. If the latter was indeed her intention, then I assume you can direct me to the thread that was subsequently opened inviting input on this subject. My guess is that there isn’t one; and, were there to be one, it would only open Pandora’s Box and create bad blood the likes of which both Marina and you surely want to avoid. I’d be very surprised if any of us wants to engage in a partisan battle on this or any other subject. What we want is to know quite clearly what Marina wants us to do; so now I agree with Bob’s confusion about her past injunctions against us answering word requests, and what’s needed now is a clear and unequivocal pronouncement from her that will clear up this matter once and for all.
All tolled, and though I’m certain it is not your intention, I’m afraid your comments here have thrown the whole issue right back into the Dark Waters of Nebulousness. Meanwhile, rest assured that I feel no animosity whatsoever toward you for any of your comments; you’re a peach of a chap, fuzz and all!
Neither offense intended nor taken, drshi, but I am almost as new here as you, and, as such, the quintessential “Low man on the totem pole”. To be specific, the part that’s about 2m underground.
So, FWIW, while I do post here liberally and freely, I am yet to be a “made man” here by a longshot. In other words, you invoke my name at your own risk.
I think both sides make valid points, though not to be mutually exclusive, to wit:
1> I percieve you, drshi to be gregarious, and perhaps a bit overzealous, but so what?? You have neither prevented Marina from doing her thing, nor exceeded your god-given right to post here as you please.
2> I percieve the current staff as perhaps a bit overzealous in remanding the doctor for exercising his constitutional right to free speech.
I reccommend that both sides chill for a bit. Perhaps drshi could cut back a bit, and perhaps we could all be a bit more tolerant of the newbie. Maybe talk to him as the Captain has, with an approach of “Welcome friend, I see you’re new here, so let me help gently tie you up and show you the ropes of being knotty here at HFW” rather than the “DANGER Will Robinson! ALIEN PRESENCE DETECTED!!!” angle that seems to have been thoroughly achieved.
{raise your hand if you remember my reference to “Lost in Space”}
I am also fianchetto1 on YouTube. Post here (maybe I’ll see it and reply) or email me there (I will see it, and shall reply). Praise me if I’m right, dress me down if I am wrong. But in the meantime, insert tongue firmly in cheek, check out the ‘Starbucks’ link I posted up there (^^^) somewhere and let’s all have a riotous laugh at ourselves first!
I love kayaking and doing it in Alaska. If you ever come here, you have to visit Homer, Alaska. I did some great expedtions this year and send you some great pics if you are interested. I have a sixteen foot perception sea kayak and is a real work horse for handling in rough seas and able to haul a lot of gear. I have long legs and recommend this boat for a beginner. I bought it three years ago and is still a great kayak although I am a good intermediate. I would consider my self advance if I could roll a kayak which I cannot do. But, I can do braces, low and high, on both sides and do a lot of edging and extended paddle techniques. We take classes over the winter at some local high school pools where we can work on rescues over just being suspended for extended time while upside down in the cockpit. My trip to Shoup Bay where Shoup glacier is located was the best. It was ten miles from Valdez and had a cabin we could rent that had window staring right at the glacier half a mile away. We could hear the glacier cavetate a couple of times which was awesome. I moved here eight years ago and never looked back. I wish winters went by as fast as the summers but it is not a perfect world. And, the japanese current warms anchorage more than you would think so it is not as cold as you hear and we do not have the six months of darkness that you hear about too. And, we do not have igloos but we are very independent. Lately, there has been much criticism about alaska and alaskans and I have been offended many times by what I hear. Since I live here and know the truth from the stereo types, I suspect if anyone critical of this state or its people would be eating a lot of crow or moose after coming here. And, contrary to popular opinion, I cannot go to carls jr, mcdonalds, wendy’s arbys, Burger King, or Taco Bell and find any meat that starts with names like moose, reindeer, Polar bear, Grizzly Bear, Elk, or Black Bear. What you will find is a large variety of,,,drum roll please, COW!!! Go figure!!! Anyway, thanks for the shout back and enjoyed talking to you and share some kayak info or experiences if you can. My latest one was paddling along a lake shore next to some tall grass and had a moose stick his head out over the water. Since I am only about three feet tall from the water and adjacent to the shore, he almost knocked my out of the boat. He heard something, me, and wanted to see what it was and if he waited one more second, my ass would have been tipped for sure. He was about ten feet in front of me and turn his head right at me. It was a thrill and did a quick paddle sweep to avoid some serious tongue action with a moose So, shout back and keep up the good work, Captain
1. I think he meant not to answer every word request that comes across HFW site. Now you know about how Marina operates, I seen you have been putting more thought into when to respond. Thats great.
2. He did. I got a copy of his email about this. As far as I know there was no answer to his email at this time. Marina is super busy now days. She is swamped. Have you heard about her new book deal? If you knew what she gets done in a day your jaw would drop. And she does this 7 days a week. She is in need of a vacation.
3. Mike was just trying to be friendly. Some of us try to treat everyone as a life long buddy even if they are new. Mike started out as our door greeter. Everyone is his buddy as long as you don’t piss him off. I sure it was just a misunderstanding.
4. Never assume anything. That’s what helps starts wars in other countries. Good, continued communications in time answers all questions and we don’t have to assume anything.
I had commissioned fianchetto1 to reply to all word requests to add the key search word “Request” to the comments so we can find all word/phrase/origin requests. Marina later told me that this was no longer needed for she has a much better system now in place to handle requests.
Comment yes but not answer them with Google or Wiki. She frowns on that. I did just that when I first started. Wow was I put in my place. heheheh. There is no thread on this site about using Wiki but if you watch some of here old game videos she says not to use wiki or google. She just wants us to give her our best guess. Like I said before we have source to answer all the questions. But then whats the point of asking the question? What I find interesting is all the myths Marina she busts. She should be on Mythbusters!!!
Thats really the best I can answer the questions you ask. If I have failed to satisfy answering your questions then Yes its up to Marina to directly answer those for you. She is very busy and she usually get to questions of this sort. Just be prepared to wait awhile. Even I being a TA don’t get answers for weeks later. Thats fine with me. I don’t want to be the blame of her not making a new lesson. You know it typically takes about 8 hours for her to do the research, filming, posting her lessons, and all this is on her second language. She is able to make me look ignorant of my own native language.
Warm and fuzzes to you to! I hope I was able to clear some of the air.
Cornflakes? They’re Great!
With all the politicians playing “gotcha” games,
you would hope we could somehow learn to be
bigger than that, without requiring Marina to wear
a black leather something-something, get out her
big stick and smack on us! Oh the Humanity!
Would you believe that some folks come here
just to “stir the pot”? Well, it happens…mox nix.
After reading the sequential detailing of your posts
above, I gotta ask – what are your intentions?
Here’s a thought, just my opinion – let this one go.
No sense in making mountains out of molehills
“Why can’t we all just get along?” – Rodney King
Well, if you still can’t discern my intention after my diatribe, I guess you just still haven’t heard what you wish they were. As for “Why can’t we all just get along?” the answer because this isn’t Shangri-La, Nirvana, or even Camelot (which wasn’t all hearts and flowers, either). This is the realm of yin and yang, darkness and light, good and evil, and there will always be conflict: it’s the essence of this universe.
It’s what I’ve used ever since I did peer counseling “dr” = doctor and “shi” = the first letters of my last name. “Drshi” is also the Sanskrit word for the seeing force or apprehension principle of creation. That avatar is Merlin the wizard in the legend of King Arthur And His Roundtable.
Your mysticism is my spiritual science. I’m a master yoga therapist and Jungian. Re Merlin’s much publicized demise: people should not believe everything they see or hear when a wizard is involved. I’m not saying that such a thing happened in this case, understand, but I have heard of people faking their own death in order to collect their life insurance. Know what I mean? Say n’more. wink wink, nudge nudge
well .. that’s another amazing coincidence .. about 3 days ago my credit card company caught someone using my card number at a guitar shop in Brighton.
I’m more of a conservative libertarian,,a conservatarian perhaps? Sure wish Bob Bar had won the presidency.
I consider my self to be a [libertarian] I find both [wings] to be [dis][taste][ful]. it seems that the left wing wants to take my [money] but will let me determine my own [morality], while the right wing will let me keep my [dollar]s but wants to [dictate] how I should act.
It [seem]s that there should be a better way, and I would post a link to it if our lovely host would [consent]…
and now tell me :
why until the end of the war NSDAP was a left wing and after war its called right wing?
media call todays NS politics and supporters extreme right wing ,while socializm is left wing
lol! during a religion in the modern world class took last semester, it explained how liberal and conservative developed caused be the protestant reformation. It explains alot! grizzlies16 i love your mind!
just showing my support
“Left-wing radicals swarm to free foundation money, where they can give gigantic grants to one another and they will never have to do a day’s work.” Ann Coulter
See heres an example of a distortion towards charity!!
Face to face, people will beg for more pleasure and comfort….fantastic???
be bold 
May you have the pleasure right with adultery one believes that concept and the other believes in gay marriage.. Go figure! Oxymoronic!
I fly. Therefore, I have both a left-wing and a right-wing.
The picture you show of the National Assembly is in fact the Tennis Court Oath. The tennis court was the largest indoor area they could find to have their meeting. Of course its not the tennis you might think of today but rather the original game of tennis known as Jeu de Paumme Royale (fr), Real Tennis (uk), Royal Tennis (au) and Court Tennis (us). And the source of many great words and phrases used throughout today.
Right Wing
I’m definately closer to right wing (McCain/Palin ‘08!), though still close to the middle. I wouldn’t have guessed the etymology of these expressions would have been so simple as how people arranged themselves, still cool to know though.
HotForWords ‘08!
Right wing, for sure
Lefty. Big time.
Right Wing
Right wing
New vid is up
This site feel like being stuck on the 101 in LA
rush hour traffic.
Some guy with a flag is slowing traffic down.
Oh look
an Austin Healey is driving on the wrong side
of the freeway, oh no it’s only mijj
yip .. [that was me]
hey marina!
i would like to ask you why sunday is called sunday?is it because there is a lot of sun in sunday?:D
i would like an answer
bb george
They’re intelligent, so they’re sexy.
hang on a minute .. that thing over there that says “64868 comments” (at the moment) – i never noticed that before.
is that the total number of comments made in all the threads in this site? – i guess that’s what it means.
getting close to my 74,000+ thread comment record!!
my estimate the other day was something like 55,000, i think .. wya too low.
is this a record for comments to a single video so far?
Hi mijj,
No, there are at least two other videos with a higher comment count.
Gird Your Loins (Game) – 965 comments
http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/05/07/gird-your-loins-game/
Roger – 806 comments
http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/05/12/roger/
ta
HEY MARINA HOW ABOUT THAT EXPRESSION …..
(BEATING AROUND THE BUSH) ??? COME ON DO THIS ONE!!!!
Etymology of Best-man / bondsman?
Why marry the bridegroom, when the best-man is standing beside him?
comment #789 Marina we need a new lesson!!!!
Is not a good idea considering someone under the left or th right, I think the people maybe likes ideas of both sides… not everything is black or white.
I’m comment #785 – perhaps it’s time to split the comments into 200 or 300 per page now?
{raising hand for recognition}
OK, Dear Teacher, to satisfy our curiosity, what kind of girl do you identify with most:
A. Hunting Girl
B. Velvet Green
C. Other (submit your own, in the comments below
):_______
Hello Marina. Good news!!
My request for getting 3 of your video unflagged worked.
I made a list of flagged videos and requested that 3 of them be unflagged. The ones I did not request to be unflagged are still flagged, incl. the Antidisestablishmentarianism video.
Now that I know that YT honors unflagging requests, I will be my honor to get the rest of your videos unflagged.
{.. i know she’s going to walk past without returning the “hello”, but i don’t care ..}
Hi Marina this is my first request, love the site and the channel, so recently you did the word Loon, well I would like to know the origin of the word Looner, I see many people using it on utube videos etc and am curious as to what this means, I’m sure you will do it justice in your usual way.
Thanks
chaospgs
why is it that Marina can discuss the meanings and origins of perfectly valid (in the context of linguistics) words and phrases such as cock, vagina, muff diving, clitoris, fellatio, etc .. and we all accept this as perfectly reasonable. (which it is, of course.)
… but as soon as her students are presented with the Dominatrix Test in order to test our comprehension in a meaningful way, we get all flustered and frothy headed.
Surely, words aren’t just dusty old things with definitions to be recited and derivations to be discussed. Surely words are living vibrant things that have meaning and significance in the real organic world. And that includes the taboo words that Marina can examine but seems get us flustered.
does this mean that Marina’s students aren’t really paying attention to their lessons? Does this mean we’re really not interested in what M has to say about these words .. is it that we just like hearing a beautiful woman talk dirty?
below is the test .. maybe someone can comment.
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You are completing this test on behalf of the version of Marina presented in her Videos.
This will help to evaluate Video Marina’s screen character and presence.
[The Could You Be A Good Dominatrix Test]
It’s the mental gender transition plus fringe lifestyle thade made the hurdle unsurmountable for me
Reminds me of [THIS] 
there, I did it:
Your result for The Could You Be A Good Dominatrix Test …
Woman on Top
You scored 55% Dominance and 53% Technique!
You enjoy being in charge and it shows. You know just what to do to have your partner at your beck and call. And if he should become unavailable, no doubt there are men lined up to do your bidding. Hell, I’m getting interested just typing this.
Whatever you do, don’t change a thing. And give me a shout if you ever want to, um, discuss things.
just needs a small tweak to be appropriate for the test context :
i.e. you were completing it on behalf of Marina.
therefore:
Woman on Top
Marina scored 55% Dominance and 53% Technique!
Marina enjoys being in charge and it shows. She knows just what to do to have her student at her beck and call. And if he should become unavailable, no doubt there are other students lined up to do her bidding.
Thanks…I meant to edit it, but forgot until .ooo1 seconds after pushing the ’send’ button
i actually think this is useful research material for Marina. She can use the results of the tests to determine the imagined type of character her perverted students might prefer her to represent. … and then, of course, she’d portray the opposite type, because that’s what cruel Marina would do.
Remember a prior discussion of body type preferences? Here’s another cutie that trips my trigger.
(the brunette…I’m not into talons and sharp beaks…)
yeh … the nice way of dealing with the parrot i kinda cute too ..
[here's another nice one] … because she’s real nice with her pet.
A simple reason could be this:
The words you give as an example above have
anatomical and biological meaning, and some
are inherently humorous by their corrupted use.
The whole dominatrix thing is purely sexual and
this test tries to personalise it to the individual
taking the test. Since the questions are about
a deviant sexual nature, as compared to a test
about whether you are a virgin or a sexually
aroused human animal, it is found that one
is more insulted than amused by the types of
questions asked. Slave auctions and naked
house boys are not appealing to my tastes
at all.This test lambasts you with a series
of these questions, leaving no opportunity
to answer in a way which rejects the behaviors
suggested. One example of this type of Q&A
asks the question: “Have you stopped beating
your wife?”. If you have never beat your wife,
there is no truthful answer you can give. It
attempts to pigeon hole you as a wife beater!
Word request: stunned
as in = Leaders in Congress were stunned
when their piece-of -sh*t legislation was rejected.
(Guess I have to quit reading the news, again)
Heck, *I* even *ASKED HIM* to post it…. thought it would be campy fun, but heck, I never even venture into the deep end of my sandbox, let alone some of the places that quiz took me. Welcome to HFW, this morning, ChaCha!
“whole dominatrix thing is purely sexuall”
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well .. that’s your personal feeling .. i feel the dominatrix thing has an underlying foundation of humour.
“the questions are about a deviant sexual nature”
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at no point are you required to indicate an indulgence in what you’d think of as deviant sexual behavior. All the sex in there is standard stuff.. but just in a dominatrix context.
“This test lambasts you with a series of these questions, leaving no opportunity to answer in a way which rejects the behaviors suggested.”
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given that the test is for the Dominatrix Style .. then the questions will be of that nature.
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it’s like criticizing a quiz testing your fighting style for being about aggression.
Gotta go, fellas, Thx, mijj, had a great time here in the time-warp chat!
see ya later, fc!
Eh, I know it’s all cliché and everything, but I consider myself more moderate than anything else.
Also, I’m interested in the word “ameliorate.”
That is, I’m interested in seeing a beautiful woman tell me where it comes from, that is.
Too many “that is.” Oops.
Origins of the word “diet” please.
Well, after reading all the many exchanges between members and the TAs doing their job, this site is very entertaining. I have learned many new words and seen some pretty strange opinions. But, it has stayed within the boundaries of polite which is refreshing to say the least. So, kudos to all below my comment for you all are doing a good job and being respectful to each other. I see some tense exchanges but the comments end on a postive or compromising note which is helpful and does not contribute to an escalating conflict. I am a new member as some have commented and will be around for as long as the good Lord will allow me. Hello everyone from the last frontier or my state of Alaska. I look forward to talking to all of you. My word for the day is TRILLION which I will not expand onto since today was a historic day. Have a good week everyone. NakedBullwinkle
“…for as long as the good Lord will let me”
Hmm.. observation: We count our birthdays.
Queries: Why would we do this? Is it some sort of contest to see who can live the longest? If the afterlife (heaven) is so much better, why haven’t we all chosen to drink the Kool-aid? If a contest, might there be soon a means to guarantee a win?
Have fun with this one, I hope!
Perhaps a word request for Halloween: Mortality
I have read it a couple of times and have no idea what you are saying. You focused on being so clever in your comments that any point you were trying to make seems to be lost or only known by you. So, if you could translate for me since english in my only language, I may be able to retort. You could get in your car tomorrow and drive through a green light and be killed in an instant. I had an experience very similiar to that situation and realize how quickly life can turn in literally one second. I made the right decision and able to write this this annoying response to you. So, when I say when the word Lord and suggest limited time, I am saying that I do possess an immortal soul and it could be snatched away very quickly to the other side or the after life or heaven which I want to be some day. And, I never drank kool aid as a kid and knew better for it tasted like crap until you dumped a crap load of sugar and then tasted like sweet crap. So, I do not drink kool aid as a child and have no interest in anyone suggesting I may be drinking kool aid today if it is referencing my I belief in God, Jesus, and heaven. If that offends anyone, I do not care. It is really just that simple. So, back to you in the studio….
Drink the Kool-aid was a reference to a previous video (click the blue words to see it). I am not taking exception to your religious views, in fact would have to say that we almost agree on the existence of a supreme deity, which point I will not debate. Click the blue words in my initial post for a gentlman from Oxford who suggests the possibility of eliminating aging as a cause of death. Further, I agree 100% that even barring trauma, since the gentleman’s ideas have yet to come to fruition, I may even collapse with a heart attack before I even get to read your reply to this post.
I probably should have opened this one on a new thread. For clarity, the topic I wish to discuss is the possibulity of eliminating aging as a cause of death.
OBAMA 08! By the way Marina, who won in the Love Letter contest a while back?
You should have gotten notified by them.. I think you were a winner as well.. there were 10 winners.
Evening young lady, how are you doing?
Hi Marina, On the “100-million-video-views” page you said; “I’ll throw in a personal love letter from me mailed via postal mail to the top 10 winners!”. Should I send you my address to the contact page?
Yes.. please send me your address.
And one last one for today’s failed bailout.
Yep poor old USA, Ide say they got about 7 years to get there shit of his moon, but I Am just the messenger.
off
At the rate the Dow power-dove yesterday, with inaction, I think we’re probably more on the time scale of days and weeks before catastrophic collapse of the entire US economy. Were I president, I would have imposed martial law on the congress. Not to force them to pass that particular draft of the bill into law, but to pass SOMETHING. “We don’t like this, therefore we shall do nothing” is the option I would prohibit. I would enforce the sole option to congress of not leaving until they say what they WILL pass.
I thought I made a reply to this yesterday but it appears to be gone. I suppose you missunderstood, I am talking about a real time physcial effort to remove there shit off his Moon( GOD’S Moon) they have screwed up a delicate balance in the very nature of the of the makeup of the function of this part of the solar system. He says fixit or its start over time before long. I am not interested in elections, I am not interested in economics, I am not interested in starting any companys, I am interested in the USA repairing something they want but can’t have. But as I have stated above I am just the messenger. stated above.
God sets up governments for his own purposes he can and will and has took them down and destroyed them for his own purposes.But as I have stated above I am just the messenger
if you want to really fix it, you gotta break first .. else you’re just patching up a broken down model that’ll get you further into the shit later.
You have a suggestion for a better model? Current one is quite complex, and though I barely understand it, it’s the model that’s copied the world around. But presuming this model to indeed obsolete, what to replace it with?
well . i’m really going for the drama of it all .. i want to see it crash and burn .. and i want ot see all those entrenched structures destroyed.
.. i guess my attitude is, the structures are so embedded that we cant conceive of any real alterntive until it’s all gone.
so .. destroy it all!!
I’m not ready to try to survive through a revolution. I used to be a paramedic, and believe that so long as we have a viable patient, CPR to the ER, any non-contra-indicated therapeutic modalities should be employed. Velvet Green Not the one I was singing, but one that I found instead.
i have to admit .. in the event of economic structural destruction, i’d probably be in the first tranche of people to suffer. but we all have to go sometime, and it might as well be in an interesting context.
{as a reluctant three-year-old child might}
“I don’t WANNA play ‘Socioeconomic Collapse’, Why can’t we play ‘Twister’ with Marina, her sister H4W, her sister Lisanova, and Einstein’s trainer Stephanie?”
2.3 million prisoners in America.
Cigarettes {check}
Lipstick {check}
that’s a very good vid, fianchetto .. i love that visualisation of info stuff.
He does a fine job in communicating visually those unfathomably huge numbers. I am impressed. (Also why I shared it with you guys
)
Someone somewhere requested “trillion” re: the wall street bailout. I remembered the video, but gave it its own thread.
hi! .. you startled me .. i thought this place was empty .. i guess it’s the echoing footsteps that fooled me.
“Boo!”
Actually, I think it has been empty but for me for some time, now.
HELLO…Hello…hello… …hi
In a recent email to the Captain, I observed the Spork Family Tree, comparing this site to the grapefruit spoon. This site being like the love-child offspring of a tryst between chatrooms and email.
.. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak .. klik .. klak ..
{singing} The long restless rustle of high-heeled boots calls…
chatrooms and email, eh?
i’m used to forums .. i originally thought the site would be better structured as a forum .. stupid me .. i think that this is good. there are problems with the details .. e.g … these branches only allow a certain depth … and it’s very hard to maneouver up and down the page when it biggens up. (:smile:)
do you use the coComments thing? .. or do you use the actual site page?
Not trying to say its bad or good, just that it’s weird to get used to. sometimes I want to scream “PICK ONE” and let’s move from there…
No, no cocomments. is it better that way?
i have the feeling coComments should be good to use .. but when i see it and try to make sense of it, i just can’t get past the feeling that it’s a load of old confusing crap.
The word ‘faux’ has always been fun to use.
Could you look into the origin of it, please?
faux = deux plus deux?
nooooooooooooooo!!!!
sorry mijj, couldn’t resist.
Why is this guy putting up these weird posts?
Mission accomplished.
In response to every Marilyn Manson vid ever before, or ever shall be linked here:
Marilyn Einstein
Step back about 3m.
Conversation Piece:
Something on the “hors” to talk about OTHER than its “d’oeuvres”.
BOOZE
TRAIN(did the word exist before the machine)
CAR
TRUCK
VAN
BUGGIE
PEEPING TOM
LEEWAY
CROSS MY HEART AND HOPE TO DIE
DRINK YOU UNDER THE TABLE
JACK OF ALL TRADES
JACK
FOUL
NTH DEGREE
DIBS
HIGH 5
ARCADE
BREAKFAST
FREESTYLE
howls about TRADES ALL OF JACK BY A MASTER OF NUNS
Bread is bad for you!
1. More than 98 percent of convicted felons are bread users.
2. Fully HALF of all children who grow up in bread-consuming households score below average on standardized tests.
3. In the 18th century, when virtually all bread was baked in the home, the average life expectancy was less than 50 years; infant mortality rates were unacceptably high; many women died in childbirth; and diseases such as typhoid, yellow fever, and influenza ravaged whole nations.
4. More than 90 percent of violent crimes are committed within 24 hours of eating bread.
5. Bread is made from a substance called “dough.” It has been proven that as little as one pound of dough can be used to suffocate a mouse. The average North American eats more bread than that in one month!
6. Primitive tribal societies that have no bread exhibit a low incidence of cancer, Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s disease, and osteoporosis.
7. Bread has been proven to be addictive. Subjects deprived of bread and given only water to eat begged for bread after as little as two days.
8. Bread is often a “gateway” food item, leading the user to “harder” items such as butter, jelly, peanut butter, and even cold cuts.
9. Bread has been proven to absorb water. Since the human body is more than 90 percent water, it follows that eating bread could lead to your body being taken over by this absorptive food product, turning you into a soggy, gooey bread-pudding person.
10. Newborn babies can choke on bread.
11. Bread is baked at temperatures as high as 240 degrees Celsius! That kind of heat can kill an adult in less than one minute.
12. Most bread eaters are utterly unable to distinguish between significant scientific fact and meaningless statistical babbling.
In light of these frightening statistics, we propose the following bread restrictions:
1. No sale of bread to minors
2. A nationwide “Just Say No To Toast” campaign, complete celebrity TV spots and bumper stickers.
3. A 300 percent federal tax on all bread to pay for all the societal ills we might associate with bread.
4. No animal or human images, nor any primary colors (which may appeal to children) may be used to promote bread usage.
5. The establishment of “bread-free” zones around schools.
It is a known fact that bread was sent to planet earth to disrupt our diets. Places like Dominoes pizza are unknowing agents of this disruption. The people who make a lot of dough from convincing us to eat this crap should be flattened by a rolling pin, greased up and baked! Next, put them in the space shuttle and send them back home. This has got to stop!
White bread is unhealthy
whole grain bread is ok
The best is SLO WholeWheat Sourdough Bread
Of all people in the world born before 1808, none of those who ate a single slice of bread is alive today.
And now to reminisce about musical Bread.
[FOREPLAY]
Not what you think…well, maybe a little at first…
HI Marina could you please look into the origin of the word cocktail for mixed drink? thank you
re insipid political journalism:
[jon stewart on crossfire]
thought this book might interest you.
ok .. i gotta wait for my friend to turn up … so, in the meanwhile .. let’s find some interesting music to link to …
hows this?
Old, but interesting, I thought.
Marina .. i hope you’re happy … everyone’s scared to take the dominatrix test on your behalf!
eric812 wants to know about ‘nerd’ I could swear I remember seeing her do a piece or refer to it in another vid, but can’t find it to give them the link… help?
Who will make comment #666? Heh heh
ok .. this test is to evaluate Marina’s screen character and presence.
You complete this test on on behalf of the version of Marina presented in the videos.
[The Could You Be A Good Dominatrix Test]
Nope! no-can-do! uh uh !
I’d rather eat a can of worms…
worms, dirt and chew the can
i’m gettin skeered too!
… i’m pushin though the envelope tho.
need help on a question …
.. would Video Marina like to whip or spank a student until:
1. he asked her to stop
2. he begged her to stop
3. he used an agreed-upon code word
4. why would she have to stop, exactly?
I couldn’t complete it, mijj,… please whip me gently, kind master…. (see post below)…
^^ Post # 666 ^^
ok .. this is my result for completing the dominatrix test on behalf of the fictional Video Marina … (not to be confused with the actual Marina)
now .. i’ve only been here a relatively short time .. and i’ve been through a couple of self-imposed Marina Video droughts .. but i think thats a fair result for the Marina in the videos.
Phrase request: Pyrrhic victory. A victory which is so costly that it amounts to a defeat. Where did this phrase come from? Many thanks!
Eric M
I’ll second that one – it sounds like it runs along the same lines as a [Pesky White Elephant] but you never know what her investigation will turn up!
My personal favourite absent minded professor.
how dare he!!! …
1st time: science {.. pah! ..}
2nd time: engineering {.. pah! ..}
ha ! ..
engineering is creation .. science is analysis.
engineering creativity is the essential impulse and direction, science is a tool used to clear the path.
there is a glamor and purity to science, engineering is hard nosed and dirty. Therein lies the confusion. The spark of creativity is rooted in the dirty reality of engineering .. the otherworldly clinical scientific analysis follows as identified by the engineering requirements.
the guy confuses the relative status of scientists and engineers in society with the elemental significance of their fields.
.. the bastard!
word request: engineer
plus
that’s not a klein bottle! .. a klein bottle is a 4 dimensional object .. that’s an imperfect 3d representation of a klein bottle.
(in the 4d object, the neck loops back into the body of the bottle like a handle – but without crossing the surface .. whereas in the 3d object there’s, naturally, an intersection with the surface of the bottle)
I think what he was driving at was that a Scientist is the guy that makes the discovery of the thing,
An engineer would design and enhance the first application of the thing – invention,
and a technician would be the one that uses the production model.
as for the klein bottle, I think he’s just having fun, and trying to make a few bucks with the enterprise.
Your result for The Awesome Test of Awesomeness. …
Awesomely Scary
53% Scary, 40% Respected and 0% Cool!
It looks like Scary was your greatest variable! You are awesome like a Greek God, unpredicatable, powerful, generally terrifying… but in a good way! You might frequently lust for awesomeness. You probably surround yourself with loyal subjects, people who you can shower with the effects of your own awesome nature. They need you. You are Awesome!
0% cool?!? yeh, my name is Fianchetto,
…and I’m a geek.
i cant believe you’re 0% cool!
60% cool that’s Fonzie cool dude
yeh … put us all in a blender and we’d be an awsomely scary respected cool god.
Blender drinks, great
some fruit and a paper umbrella
with false idols
what more can you ask for?
ha ha, you guys don,t even know whats gouing on, these words provided by 1SuperiorAmishNun
To quote Will Rogers, “I belong to no organized party. I am a Democrat.”
Eric M
Awesomely Scary
40% Scary, 40% Respected and 20% Cool!
Awesomely Scary
It looks like Scary was your greatest variable! You are awesome like a Greek God, unpredictable, powerful, generally terrifying… but in a good way! You might frequently lust for awesomeness. You probably surround yourself with loyal subjects, people who you can shower with the effects of your own awesome nature. They need you. You are Awesome!
marina,how are you doing today?hey i noticed you investigated the word geek.why dont you investigate the word nerd.
I could have sworn she did it … something about Dr. Seuss… I would love to link you to it, but I can’t find it….. uh… help? anybody?
ok .. we have a choice .. someone’s going to have to decide for me ..
either .. [Long Scientific Personality Test] …
or
we have a shot at filling out [The Could You Be A Good Dominatrix Test] on behalf of Marina.
votes please. .. as soon as we have three votes ill post the quiz.
The Could You Be A Good Dominatrix Test
you know, the crowd in this site isn’t generally community minded .. so i’ll vote for the Dominatrix test so it;s 2 out of 3 so we can begin. (otherwise we’ll be here for hours waiting for another damned vote)
I vote Dominatrix test,
I like to be a team player
regardless of my evil gravatar
or http://www.helloquizzy.com/tests/the-awesome-test-of-awesomeness test for awesomeness
For what it’s worth, my results:
It looks like Respected was your greatest variable! That means you are awe-fully awesome. Folks know you and your awesomeness. You don’t flaunt your powers in front of the general public. You probably don’t want to make others feel bad, and we respect you for that. Not everyone can be as respected as you. You are Awesome!
Awesomely Cool
33% Scary, 27% Respected and 40% Cool!
It looks like Cool was your highest variable! This means that you are awesome fun. You tend to look at the lighter side of things. You don’t take your awesomeness quite as seriously as a Scary Awesome person or a Respected Awesome person. Instead, your awesomeness is merely a byproduct of you enjoying life to the fullest.
Now! this is a democracy?
ok .. i’ll defer to your choice.
i’m beginning to get an inkling …
… if these people who link to her site are flagged as porn merchants (or similar) .. then this stains the site they link to (i.e. hfw) .. is that the idea?
i get it .. they’re hitching on M’s video titles so their stuff shows up on a search for hers.
is M trying to remove all that? .. that sounds an impossible task.
“This came right after her TV exposure so no telling what kind of nut would want to cause havoc for HFW. I have my own suspicions.”
so .. this is a YouTuber who watched Bill O’Reilly.
The only people who watch Bill O’Reilly for that episode are Bill O’Reilly fans and HFW fans.
And you dont think this is a genuine prude, but someone out to create mischief?
what i mean is ..
… can all this havoc be caused by an individual, or would it take 2 or more to do it?
that makes the difference between a loon with a petty grievance and a conspired effort to undermine HFW.
I think most everyone has given up for the night. Because of the video lasting so long. It’s a shame someone did that to Marina’s videos. I think it has a lot to do with the poor ratings from her utube site.
i’m lost .. what video lasted so long?
what’s the thing about the ratings? i never see her videos there? .. aren’t they usually highly rated?
Yes they are very highly rated. That’s why we all need to visit there and watch her videos and tick the ratings buttons. it boosts her videos greatly.
now wait a minute cap, you said something about a problem to do with poor ratings of M’s vids on youtube. and now you’re saying they’re highly rated.
… are you trying to make me cry?
Have you done a word search of M’s videos at You Tube and seen the people who try to steer you to their site?
could you explain as if to a small stupid child?
if i do a wordsearch for “hotforwords” .. how would i see people trying to steer me to her site.
.. and .. isn’t having people steer you to her site a good thing?
d’oh!
i didn’t read your post properly ..
.. it must have been late.
my awesome result …
Awesomely Cool
20% Scary, 20% Respected and 60% Cool!
It looks like Cool was your highest variable! This means that you are awesome fun. You tend to look at the lighter side of things. You don’t take your awesomeness quite as seriously as a Scary Awesome person or a Respected Awesome person. Instead, your awesomeness is merely a byproduct of you enjoying life to the fullest. You are Awesome!
Mijj, my friend, to elaborate
search ‘codswallop’
there are two channels listed
one is laaSEXYbebe at one time it liked to an adult “dating” site
but something changed now the link is gone. I suspect YT called
SPAM on his link.
The other is a religious fanatic site called mikhaelangelo it uses a thumbnail of Marina’s actual video.
Tks for giving me a chance to be more accurate
Also, Its steers away from her site
It’s people capitalizing on her popularity
for what ever evil reason
It is possible if someone got a slap on the hand by YT
they may be inclined to seek revenge
If only she could find out who flagged her and for what reason.
This came right after her TV exposure
so no telling what kind of nut would want
to cause havoc for HFW.
I have my own suspicions.
What do you mean team effort?
Again, without all the facts one cannot come to a conclusion.
but it’s fun to see the way your mind works
I suspect it takes only one
but again all the facts are not available to me
Mijj do you know how to save a whole page in Firefox so I can cut out a picture from with in the page? Say I froze a video and wanted to save the frozen image how could I do that
i have a print image dodad that’ll scroll down a webpage and stitch it together as one image.
that’s the kind fo think you want, isn’t it?
if you’re only interested in capturing an image that’s completely visible on the webpage, then i dont think you only need to use the screen capture thing that comes with windows, and clip out the bit you need.
… only thing is, im not sure what the screencapture thing is with windows .. i installed a fancier version. .. i think if you key “printscreen” .. that’ll generate a pic of the screen.
but you’ll need a simple image editor to clip out the bit you need
What I meant was that they are usually highly rated. But with most of her videos being flagged it is slowing down the process. Does that make since? It sorta does and it doesn’t. Know what I mean Hmmmmm
oh .. i see .. yeh .. the flagging thing is impeding ppl who want to view and score the vids.
but surely requiring an extra mouse click to get through wouldnt mess things up that much, would it?
(dont forget .. complete novice to the mysteries of youtube)
Does firefox add ons have the program?
well .. the one i use is a windows prog.
but if all you wnat to do is capture someting that’s entirely visible on a webpage .. then you dont need anything fancy .. just use the “printscreen” thing … but .. i’m not too sure about how that works …
.. alternatively .. {.. rushes off to get link …}
this is IrfanView
http://www.irfanview.net/
it’s a free image viewer/ simple image editor (clipping/and similar) / printscreen
it’s handy. like at times like this.
Just downloaded it , Thanks
once you’ve installed it, run it and …
screen capture is under menu->options->Capture/Screenshot
(there’s millions of menu stuff to hunt through so i thought i’d better tell you)
No not really. It’s just another step people have to take to view the video. But some how Youtube slows down her ratings because of the flagging of the videos even the ones that’s not flagged.
it sounds like a conspiracy .. but then .. incompetence always does.
Dominatrix me, baby!
NOW!!! OR I WILL NO LONGER ALLOW YOU TO CONTINUE TO BE MY BITCH!!!!
ok .. here’s the quiz .. ..
you realise you’re completing this on behalf of Marina? She’s otherwise engaged and has asked for you to do this based upon your understanding of her from her vids.
[The Could You Be A Good Dominatrix Test]
Sorry…that one’s just too twisted for me to wrap my brain around.
I guess that answers any question of who ‘wears the pants’ here….
yeh .. .and you aren’t wearing the pants because Marina has taken them off you and wont give them back.
Doesn’t that make you want to punish her?
Actually, I wouldn’t mind if she were to punish me for failing the ‘Dominatrix’ test….severely….
Started the test & couldn’t finish.
Oh I see what your problem is now, a small hint, dogs are dogs, cats are cats, and people are people.
Without all the facts I cannot be analytical.
I do suspect the motive is some type of jealousy
Now is the time we need an intellectual
you mean you suspect the jealousy is linked to the Bill O’Reilly show?
someone is jealous that M was on Bill O’Reilly?
you mean a competitor of the HotForWords channel?
does this kind of thing need team effort, or is it easy enough to be done by an individual?
Perhaps a child, in innocent ignorance, thinks that flagging HFW vids is a good thing?
Or a militant fundamentalist on a mission from God to single-handedly purify the web?
took the test. not a dominatrix. but i’m a fucking ape so why bother pretending?
you were supposed to fill it in on Video Marina’s behalf.
there’s no reason Video Marina wouldn’t enjoy tormenting an ape.
ok … i gotta kwizz!!
.. oh no .. dammit .. search again … (this is to test for dominatrix)
word requests portrait treasure weird
How to Prevent Starbucks from Ever Making Their Own Advertisements in One Easy Lesson
OK. He’s gregarious.
OK. Love him or hate him, not much middle ground.
OK, now NAME THE CRIME.
No ’sticking pasta’ on my watch.
{step one…pour gasoline. step two…strike match.}
Ciao,
Fianchetto
arson
ROFLOL! Thanks, Capman. I walked right into that one!
Arse on fire or just arse’n around with matches?
That was great! When Starbucks first came to
my area, they served decent coffee – then, they
changed it to something more resembling black
swampwater – Yuck! Step 3 – get away FAST!
I had one on Saturday from Starbucks and it was not as good as it once was.
To many years as a fireman told me that one, plus watching CSI
Please also check my last post (29September @ 1659 …waaay down there somewhere buried in all our other junk and stuff)
i think this is the most wonderful thread of discussion that i’ve witnessed!
Wooooof ……….. Spitball to the back of your head tee he
…prepares to take a long, luxurious pee …
….. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh …..
….. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh …..
….
….. ahhhh …..
….. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh …..
….
.. shake shake
….
.. zzzzippp ..
oh ..
.. sorry chev .. i didn’t see you down there!
how about one of your games Mijj
yeh … i was thinking that …
.. i was holding out for a reply from drshi re a comment i made about merlin. I dont think he’s going to respond.
I’ll dig out a good quiz .. oh .. and it’d be great if you completed it on Marina’s behalf.
it was me down here you bassword
no … i was definitely up thread pointingwards.
i’ve just got to say in passing cap .. there’s been some real epic heroic posts in this thread. !!
It wasn’t me it was my new evil
gravatar
that did it
Jack just told me that you might have to contact Gravatar.com to get them to let you do that kind of gravatar
Hi,
I would like to submit the words “Patriot” and “Dames”.
I even found an example at the following youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeiK5C6r2-Y
Thanks for listening,
Gregory
Something Taken Over Kicks Everyones Shit, Jail Rookie.
This is doing my head in 3 days and no new video!! I will personally punch YT server in the face
Probably not,http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/06/18/cracker-game/
Quit waiting for fun to happen!
Sometimes you’ve got to make yer own.
You want a “new” video?
Lessee… ummm…
how ’bout this one?
Torcher (Torture)
WHAT LA TORTURA!! THAT WAS MY MOST PLAYED SONG ON MY IPOD!! I used to love it.. I hardly understand a word
Now you have the words.. in englais!
(are we havin; fun, yet?)
Testing, new scary gravatar
An ugly joker, yea it is. Yes, hmmm.
Yoda speak
Cute the gravatar is
ugly it is not…hmmm
It would be animated if this site was coded for such.
Have you tried to download one. I know James was going to do it at one time.
This is one, the extended hand should wave
Inky, Blinky, Pinky and Clyde
Lets see if it works
I think M has to put special code in this site for it to work.
Marina I have word request: Oblivion
http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/06/18/cracker-game/
Word request: Swag
Oh Marina… What is with the honours
#12 – Most Discussed (Today) – Global
#5 – Most Discussed (Today) – Entertainment – Global
#28 – Most Discussed (This Week) – Entertainment – Global
#96 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Israel
#85 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Russia
#47 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment – Germany
#61 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment – Australia
#57 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment – Canada
#88 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment
#58 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment – Ireland
#96 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment – India
#62 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment – New Zealand
#34 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment – Israel
#53 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment – Global
#69 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment – Spain
#86 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment – Mexico
#39 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment – France
#38 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment – Italy
#54 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment – Japan
#47 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment – South Korea
#60 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment – Netherlands
#37 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment – Poland
#35 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment – Brazil
#34 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment – Russia
#62 – Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment – Russia
#77 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment – Hong Kong
#36 – Premium Most Viewed (This Week) – Entertainment – Taiwan
#69 – Top Rated (This Week) – Entertainment – Global
This means there will never be another video ever again.
I think M you will have to work out another strategy as after 2 days apparantley there has only been 40, thousand views. Which is totally incorrect . they must be doing views in about 200 every hour. My videos are doing it too. GRR YOUTUBE
I have a love hate relationship with YT. They are the best video site and yet they still an infant company. I think they company would go much further if the upper level management rethinks their strategy.
All in favour of an email to youtube say aye
Mega video makes you click on adds before you can watch some videos. There are worse ones out there.
Marina, Grizzly origin.. so now I ask you
what is the origin of the phrase “Sweet fanny adams”
Stay out of this drshi
Put ‘em up! I’ll take you on with one paw
behind my back – no! make that two paws…
SMACK!! ok ok – maybe two paws wasn;t
such a godd idea – you win – LOL!
(I had my eyes closed – nyuk nyuk)
Check out my new gravatar! Y’all better behave I’ve got my EYE on you!
You, spying on us are. Hmmmmmm.
That’s very cool.
Hey thats here line http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/06/18/cracker-game/
her
I was on the news.. My head at the back a little tiny black out of focus thing
Hi, just found out about your site and have enjoyed looking at your videos and information here….thanks! I’d like to request some history on the word “whippersnapper” when you have time. Years ago, a librarian attempted to look it up for us and could only find a vague reference in early 1900’s Enlish literature, but no firm origin or definition of the word. Can you scrounge up the truth?
I second that…I have used it but never knew where it came from
DOES MARINA ENCOURAGE COMMENTS ON REQUESTED WORDS? Since this seems to be an ongoing polemic, I’m sure we would all like to put this matter to rest. Because I was getting a lot of flack when I began commenting on requests, and even TA Mike asked me to refrain from this, I told him that I’d agree provided Marina felt the same way. Capt. Jack then commented on the confusion that can result when even a TA attempts to speak for Marina: He stated, “I do agree about the conflict that could arise from what a TA interprets what Marina’s will is.” He then e-mailed her on my behalf and reported back to me, saying, “Marina does encourage comments on requested words.”
He added, “Marina also said she would like to keep this site as organic and freewheeling as possible.” 
Look, I fully understand the psychology that develops when a cadre of “old timers” develops on a site. A sense of ownership naturally occurs, part of which is the tendency to dictate to newcomers what they deem acceptable and taboo. In short, they presume to speak for Marina. If ballsy newcomers like yours truly don’t come along now and then and shake up such entrenched behavior, the site ceases to be “as organic and freewheeling as possible.”
On the other hand, this does not mean that we should act completely without inhibition or common courtesy. For example, in basically anonymous forums such as this, some feel justified in “letting it all hang out,” speaking in ways they would never resort to were they sitting in a room filled with men, women, adults, and teens. As is my personal and professional nature, I initially went with the flow and took off the gloves when an adversary did the same. Now that I’m making my point, I assure you this will not happen again. Meanwhile, I’m hardly a pedantic prude; a discussion about profane or vulgar words is one thing, but their gratuitous use here does not reflect well on Marina. Also, I love humor — but not if it’s cruel and at someone else’s expense.
OF COURSE Marina encourages us to contribute to word requests; what dedicated teacher does not take delight in seeing her students helping one another and learning to do research for themselves? Capt. Jack tells me that Marina’s list of requested words has now grown to around two million! With this present inventory alone, she could do several videos a week for the rest of her life and not even scratch the surface of the requests she already has. Cap assures me that no request is ignored, but he missed my point on this. He meant that all requests are considered; but, if someone makes a request and never receives a reply, from their point of view it is ignored.
I have no intention or desire to take over the site or force Marina into exile. As the saying goes, “My Mama didn’t raise me to be no fool.” She could make videos of herself reading the back of a box of Corn Flakes and most of us would still be here, panting for more; but I love the language as much as she does, and I want to help keep her from becoming further swamped by taking on some of the more mundane requests; and, the more we do the same, the more those who make requests will not go away empty-handed. Earlier, I made a request of my own, curious about why we call Deutschland “Germany”; and, to my delight, pedantickarl did a lot of research on his own and gave me a detailed explanation. How proud Marina must be about this sort of extra-credit student homework!
If I’ve gone wrong anywhere here, I hope Marina herself will set me straight. Meanwhile, all I ask is that everyone please honor her wishes and remember that she encourages our participation in word requests and she wants to keep this site as organic and freewheeling as possible. That’s it; your turn. Thanks for your time and thoughtful consideration.
alx replied on February 19th, 2008 4:06 pm:
not an easy question.
“deutsch” (”german”) comes from lat. “theodiscus”. “theodiscus” is a word “invented” by scholars to distinguish latin from, and refer to, the language that the “ordinary” people spoke. it comes from germanic ” *theod-” (”folk”, “people”) + “-isk(a)”. “-isk” is a suffix that “makes” adjectives. so, “theodisk” actually means “folkish”. but, it referred only to the langauge. old high german (about 700 — 1100 ad) knows the word “diutisk” or “diutisc”. that changed over time to “deutsch”.
as for “germany”. I’m not sure. only thing I recall is that it comes from latin “germanus”. “germanus” should be older than “theodiscus”.
as for “france”, I can only guess. a germanic tribe, the franks, settled in an area around what today is toulouse. they replaced the wisigoths who then went further west and settled in a region which is now spain. so, “france” maybe comes from the franks.
right next to franks, to the east, settled another tribe. the allemanni. so, the franks and the alemanni were neighbours. maybe this is where “allemagne” comes from.
Hm ! Toulouse ? No ! The capital of the Franks was Soissons not very far from Chantilly (you know the Crème Chantilly ?)
Toulouse is to Soissons the same as Dallas for Boston in the US.
Welcome to France !
Wow, thanx, aLx! Both you and Karl have definitely linked the two names; but have you found any indication that the Germans themselves use the words “German” or “Germany” with reference to their country or language?
I also feel your additional info on France opens a cornucopia that Marina could harvest fruitfully: How various countries got their names and why our names for them often differ from their present official name
My God ! Your text was as long as War and Peace “Voina i Mir” written by Tolstoi “the fat”.
I know; attention spans are not what they used to be.
I guess you are being called Dumb?????? If not, then what??
Must not have watched pithy.
Jeez, nb, don’t you ever lighten up? Likening my post to War And Peace is just fine with you; one’s attention span has nothing whatsoever to do with intelligence; and it’s a proven fact that attention spans in general have declined appreciably because of the deluge of snapshot media bytes. Sheesh.
The reason there seems to be confusion on this issue is that some of us “old-timers” remember Marina herself posting just such an admonition about not answering word requests, as it spoils her opportunity to make a video about that word.
I can remember her doing so on at least two occasions. Maybe her attitude has changed in the meantime as her list of word requests has grown, so I think it would be helpful to have a definitive statement of policy from Marina.
I would also like to suggest that there should be a new “landing page” for visitors arriving at the site, on which is to be found a brief summary of how the site works, to check the past lessons page before making word requests, to avoid flaming, spamming and reacting to spammers and flamers, and any other things which Marina and the TAs think necessary to keep this a pleasant place to visit. I’m not thinking of a long list of rules here, but I cannot believe that organic and free-wheeling is synonymous with anarchy.
Well, Bob, regarding Marina’s policy on requests, I feel we already have a definitive statement from her in this regard: “Marina does encourage comments on requested words.” Seems clear as it can be; but, as I said in my post, if I’m wrong about anything, I trust she will set me and us straight. I also assume we’ll hear from Capt. Jack on this, as well.
I like your idea about an orientation page for newbies. Free-wheeling does suggest anarchy, but we must remember that Russians are far more “discreet” behavior-wise than we are. They are strictly purists regarding their language and the sloppy use thereof, so Marina’s use of these terms undoubtedly falls well short of anarchy.
Ok first off I want to correct some of facts.
He added, “Marina also said she would like to keep this site as organic and freewheeling as possible.” 
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“He then e-mailed her on my behalf and reported back to me, saying, “Marina does encourage comments on requested words.”
No I did not email her on your behalf. These were comments of old emails Marina had sent to me on a different subject. I know you haven’t read all the comments on previous lessons but she has stated a bit how she would like to see the site flow.
About what I meant in regards of replying to word requests is like Bob pointed out is that it does spoil her opportunity to make a video on that word or phrase. What she was suggesting is that we start a discussion about the word request. She also wants us to guess what the origin of a word or what we heard on the street as the common etymology of that word. Sure anyone of us can go and get access to the OED and many other books and answer all the requests. That’s easy. But I ask you what fun is that? I too did as you did and tried to answer all the requests. Now I just leave most of them be, which I find it very hard to leave a question unanswered. I do chime in for any words with nautical origins. I even have the sources to back up my claims. But even so Marina has found words with deep nautical origins that I could not find. “BJ” word is one example. None of my books listed it. So Im very cautious when I reply to a word request.
As for Marina’s word list. Yes she will never get though it all. Thats not the goal here. I see this site as a place to learn a bit about the stories behind the etymology of some of these words. Nice to see a video with pictures on the subject and a very pretty philologist teaching me the back story. Marina vs reading the OED, I would pick Marina any day.
As for a policy page or a newbie page. I don’t think it’s going to happen. It would have been up years ago if this was a concern to Marina. It has been suggested many times before. I think thats what Marina was talking about free flowing and organic. No putting people in a box and giving them big rules to follow, just a few guide lines.
I hope my comment makes sense and I hope I didn’t offend you in any way. Im just trying to give you an idea how things are presently working around here. What I mean about presently is that things change here often. This site is very organic and everything I said could all change in one day. Its however Miss M see fit.
I also look forward to your future comments here on the HFW site. I think I can learn a lot from you. 
I welcome your input in all this.
Captain Jack
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Nice job Captain and thanks for your comments earlier. I am a avid kayaker and am trying to get more salt in my blood each day (paddling that is). And, here is Alaska, kayaking is a dream come true. Anyone who loves the sea, is all right by me. Have a great week, sir!!!!
I too like Kayaking. I have an inflatable that isn’t too horrible. I plan to get one of those framed inflatables. I really want a nice wooden kayak. I met the guys from Redfish a few weeks ago and I love their stuff. Might have to just get one and buy a bigger sailboat to put it on. What I love about kayaking is it brings you right up with nature, naked so to speak.
Hi, Jack –
Thanks for your feedback: Here’s mine.
The exchange to which I refer occurred as follows (and you can check it out yourself:
1. Mike asked me to stop commenting on word requests.
2. I asked him to check with Marina for me on this.
3. His macho response was, “You got it pal. I’ll e-mail her right now.”
4. I never heard from him again, so when you responded in the same thread, I naturally assumed it was a result of the e-mail he had promised to send her on my behalf. Since you now say this was not so, why have I never heard about Marina’s response to the e-mail he supposedly sent her on my behalf?
What has happened, though, is that he has launched a rather paranoidal diatribe against me (see near the bottom on this page) in which fianchetto1 played my advocate, to which Capman911 replied, “So your saying Jack and I should just sit back and let the good doctor take over the site. If you will go back to the last couple of videos he has answered most of the word requests….” His bogus assertion paints me as vacuuming up requests like a Hoover from Hell. You also imply that I tend to answer most requests, while you “tend to let most of them be.” FYI, Jack, I do exactly the same as you. I also feel that whatever info I impart regarding words can never interfere with the kind of back stories Marina’s research provides. I assure you that I, too, am very cautious when I reply to a word request, and I’ve answered less and less since I first joined up.
Finally, surely you must admit that your statement, “Marina does encourage comments on requested words” clearly implies that she wants us to comment on the words requested and not on how we should relate to word requests in general. If the latter was indeed her intention, then I assume you can direct me to the thread that was subsequently opened inviting input on this subject. My guess is that there isn’t one; and, were there to be one, it would only open Pandora’s Box and create bad blood the likes of which both Marina and you surely want to avoid. I’d be very surprised if any of us wants to engage in a partisan battle on this or any other subject. What we want is to know quite clearly what Marina wants us to do; so now I agree with Bob’s confusion about her past injunctions against us answering word requests, and what’s needed now is a clear and unequivocal pronouncement from her that will clear up this matter once and for all.
All tolled, and though I’m certain it is not your intention, I’m afraid your comments here have thrown the whole issue right back into the Dark Waters of Nebulousness. Meanwhile, rest assured that I feel no animosity whatsoever toward you for any of your comments; you’re a peach of a chap, fuzz and all!
Neither offense intended nor taken, drshi, but I am almost as new here as you, and, as such, the quintessential “Low man on the totem pole”. To be specific, the part that’s about 2m underground.
So, FWIW, while I do post here liberally and freely, I am yet to be a “made man” here by a longshot. In other words, you invoke my name at your own risk.
I think both sides make valid points, though not to be mutually exclusive, to wit:
1> I percieve you, drshi to be gregarious, and perhaps a bit overzealous, but so what?? You have neither prevented Marina from doing her thing, nor exceeded your god-given right to post here as you please.
2> I percieve the current staff as perhaps a bit overzealous in remanding the doctor for exercising his constitutional right to free speech.
I reccommend that both sides chill for a bit. Perhaps drshi could cut back a bit, and perhaps we could all be a bit more tolerant of the newbie. Maybe talk to him as the Captain has, with an approach of “Welcome friend, I see you’re new here, so let me help gently tie you up and show you the ropes of being knotty here at HFW” rather than the “DANGER Will Robinson! ALIEN PRESENCE DETECTED!!!” angle that seems to have been thoroughly achieved.
{raise your hand if you remember my reference to “Lost in Space”}
I am also fianchetto1 on YouTube. Post here (maybe I’ll see it and reply) or email me there (I will see it, and shall reply). Praise me if I’m right, dress me down if I am wrong. But in the meantime, insert tongue firmly in cheek, check out the ‘Starbucks’ link I posted up there (^^^) somewhere and let’s all have a riotous laugh at ourselves first!
Ciao,
Fianchetto
I love kayaking and doing it in Alaska. If you ever come here, you have to visit Homer, Alaska. I did some great expedtions this year and send you some great pics if you are interested. I have a sixteen foot perception sea kayak and is a real work horse for handling in rough seas and able to haul a lot of gear. I have long legs and recommend this boat for a beginner. I bought it three years ago and is still a great kayak although I am a good intermediate. I would consider my self advance if I could roll a kayak which I cannot do. But, I can do braces, low and high, on both sides and do a lot of edging and extended paddle techniques. We take classes over the winter at some local high school pools where we can work on rescues over just being suspended for extended time while upside down in the cockpit. My trip to Shoup Bay where Shoup glacier is located was the best. It was ten miles from Valdez and had a cabin we could rent that had window staring right at the glacier half a mile away. We could hear the glacier cavetate a couple of times which was awesome. I moved here eight years ago and never looked back. I wish winters went by as fast as the summers but it is not a perfect world. And, the japanese current warms anchorage more than you would think so it is not as cold as you hear and we do not have the six months of darkness that you hear about too. And, we do not have igloos but we are very independent. Lately, there has been much criticism about alaska and alaskans and I have been offended many times by what I hear. Since I live here and know the truth from the stereo types, I suspect if anyone critical of this state or its people would be eating a lot of crow or moose after coming here. And, contrary to popular opinion, I cannot go to carls jr, mcdonalds, wendy’s arbys, Burger King, or Taco Bell and find any meat that starts with names like moose, reindeer, Polar bear, Grizzly Bear, Elk, or Black Bear. What you will find is a large variety of,,,drum roll please, COW!!! Go figure!!! Anyway, thanks for the shout back and enjoyed talking to you and share some kayak info or experiences if you can. My latest one was paddling along a lake shore next to some tall grass and had a moose stick his head out over the water. Since I am only about three feet tall from the water and adjacent to the shore, he almost knocked my out of the boat. He heard something, me, and wanted to see what it was and if he waited one more second, my ass would have been tipped for sure. He was about ten feet in front of me and turn his head right at me. It was a thrill and did a quick paddle sweep to avoid some serious tongue action with a moose
So, shout back and keep up the good work, Captain 
Pancakes!
1. I think he meant not to answer every word request that comes across HFW site. Now you know about how Marina operates, I seen you have been putting more thought into when to respond. Thats great.
I sure it was just a misunderstanding. 
Good, continued communications in time answers all questions and we don’t have to assume anything.
2. He did. I got a copy of his email about this. As far as I know there was no answer to his email at this time. Marina is super busy now days. She is swamped. Have you heard about her new book deal? If you knew what she gets done in a day your jaw would drop. And she does this 7 days a week. She is in need of a vacation.
3. Mike was just trying to be friendly. Some of us try to treat everyone as a life long buddy even if they are new. Mike started out as our door greeter. Everyone is his buddy as long as you don’t piss him off.
4. Never assume anything. That’s what helps starts wars in other countries.
I had commissioned fianchetto1 to reply to all word requests to add the key search word “Request” to the comments so we can find all word/phrase/origin requests. Marina later told me that this was no longer needed for she has a much better system now in place to handle requests.
Yea what your doing now is great. Minimizing replies. But if you are sure that Marina doesn’t have a back story on the word then go for it and answer the request. Oh and if you see anyone ask for the word F#©|< then refer them to James’s video. He has that word all wrapped up for it gets asked a lot. I myself should reframe from answering even some Nautical requests. I have in the past answered a reply to tell the person that the word has an interesting origin and I will let Marina try to answer the request. If they really need to know they can always email me.
Comment yes but not answer them with Google or Wiki. She frowns on that. I did just that when I first started. Wow was I put in my place. heheheh.
There is no thread on this site about using Wiki but if you watch some of here old game videos she says not to use wiki or google. She just wants us to give her our best guess. Like I said before we have source to answer all the questions. But then whats the point of asking the question? What I find interesting is all the myths Marina she busts. She should be on Mythbusters!!!
Thats really the best I can answer the questions you ask. If I have failed to satisfy answering your questions then Yes its up to Marina to directly answer those for you. She is very busy and she usually get to questions of this sort. Just be prepared to wait awhile. Even I being a TA don’t get answers for weeks later. Thats fine with me. I don’t want to be the blame of her not making a new lesson. You know it typically takes about 8 hours for her to do the research, filming, posting her lessons, and all this is on her second language. She is able to make me look ignorant of my own native language.
Warm and fuzzes to you to! I hope I was able to clear some of the air.
You’re Aces, Cap. Thanx!
Cornflakes? They’re Great!
With all the politicians playing “gotcha” games,
you would hope we could somehow learn to be
bigger than that, without requiring Marina to wear
a black leather something-something, get out her
big stick and smack on us! Oh the Humanity!
Would you believe that some folks come here
just to “stir the pot”? Well, it happens…mox nix.
After reading the sequential detailing of your posts
above, I gotta ask – what are your intentions?
Here’s a thought, just my opinion – let this one go.
No sense in making mountains out of molehills
“Why can’t we all just get along?” – Rodney King
“Why can’t we all just get along?” Didn’t miss M say just that about 2 flame wars ago?
Well, if you still can’t discern my intention after my diatribe, I guess you just still haven’t heard what you wish they were. As for “Why can’t we all just get along?” the answer because this isn’t Shangri-La, Nirvana, or even Camelot (which wasn’t all hearts and flowers, either). This is the realm of yin and yang, darkness and light, good and evil, and there will always be conflict: it’s the essence of this universe.
hang on .. i know what’s going on
you’re Marina enjoying a practical joke!!
.. oh, you!!
(giggle) Oh! You caught me, you naughty boy
Hey drshi, What does your screen name mean and Its hard to see your gravitar. What is it?
It’s what I’ve used ever since I did peer counseling “dr” = doctor and “shi” = the first letters of my last name. “Drshi” is also the Sanskrit word for the seeing force or apprehension principle of creation. That avatar is Merlin the wizard in the legend of King Arthur And His Roundtable.
ah! .. i think we’re all naturally a bit wary of people who’re involved in mysticism.
oh .. btw ..
.. (going from faulty memory) … didn’t merlin die the triple death while escaping the enchantment of the Lady of the Lake?
So are you a Medieval times gamer? You have a website?
TO MIJJ:
Your mysticism is my spiritual science. I’m a master yoga therapist and Jungian. Re Merlin’s much publicized demise: people should not believe everything they see or hear when a wizard is involved. I’m not saying that such a thing happened in this case, understand, but I have heard of people faking their own death in order to collect their life insurance. Know what I mean? Say n’more. wink wink, nudge nudge
you miss my meaning .. i was drawing your attention to the fact that the particular Lady of the Lake for this site is Marina.
… and, if indeed you are merlin, then you’re doomed.
TO CAP:
What’s a “gamer”? What’s a “website”? I LIVED through that era
TO MIJJ
No worries, mate. I’m not Merlin, I just got hold of his Amex Card and stole his identity. I’m Fata Morgana: Now she’ll see me, now she won’t.
well .. that’s another amazing coincidence .. about 3 days ago my credit card company caught someone using my card number at a guitar shop in Brighton.
Oh, was that your card? Dang, I had my eye on a great Gibson.
To Capt Jack:-
To me his gravatar looks like a whirling Dervish!
To Dr.Shi:-
Interesting CV you have.
Can we all just STFU now?? Not in offence.. But this is doing my head in .. I can’t understand a thing.
Good news, James. When I find myself swimming against the tide I usually burn out pretty quickly seek more welcome waters.
sorry