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HotForWords Forums » Forum: Philology and Etymology - Recent Topics http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ A place to discuss all kinds of stuff! en Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:50:27 +0000 leoNard on "Help FLOWER the seeds of WORD POWER!" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/help-flower-the-seeds-of-word-power#post-13346 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:37:16 +0000 leoNard 13346@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" /> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florilegium_early_music_ensemble">a classical music ensemble Florilegium</a><blockquote>Lets Push FLOWERS and WORDS_____-----~~~~-----______and as always thanks to wiki and you-tube and all spirits created by people and the Universal GOD(s) <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_question.gif" title=":?:" class="bb_smilies" /> </blockquote>In medieval Latin a florilegium (plural florilegia) was a compilation of excerpts from other writings. The word is formed the Latin flos (flower) and legere (to gather): literally a gathering of flowers, or collection of fine extracts from the body of a larger work. It was adapted from the Greek anthologia (ἀνθολογία) "anthology", with the same etymological meaning. Medieval florilegia were systematic collections of extracts taken mainly from the writings of the Church Fathers from early Christian authors, also pagan philosophers such as Aristotle, and sometimes classical writings. A prime example is the Manipulus florum of Thomas of Ireland, which was completed at the beginning of the fourteenth century. The purpose was to take passages that illustrated certain topics, doctrines or themes. It is also applied literally to a treatise on flowers or medieval books that are dedicated to ornamental rather than medicinal or utilitarian plants. <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_wink.gif" title=":wink:" class="bb_smilies" /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HKVM1GWTH8">hotforwords vanila...check out "Marina's ice-Cream"...flavor..,</a> <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> ~~~~<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Vestal.JPG">................ *<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_(disambiguation)">Flower (disambiguation)...soul much...A flower is a reproductive structure found in many plants.</a> <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_razz.gif" title=":P" class="bb_smilies" /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEpfH_FVQK0">TONY CAREY - SAN FRANCISCO (BE SURE TO WEAR...)</a>Please share and help "flower the seeds of WORD POWER <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_cool.gif" title="8)" class="bb_smilies" /> <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Flower_poster_2.jpg"> poster with twelve flowers of different families: St Bernards Lilly (Anthericum liliago): Liliaceae Bermuda Buttercup (Oxalis pes-caprae): Oxalidaceae Oleander (Nerium oleander): Apocynaceae Lantana (Lantana camara): Verbenaceae Scarlet Pimpernel (Anagallis arvensis): Primulaceae Verbascum (Verbascum sinuatum): Scrophulariaceae Common Mallow (Malva sylvestris): Malvaceae Spanish Oyster (Scolymus hispanicum): Asteraceae Stork's Bill (Erodium malacoides): Geraniaceae Bindweed (Convolvulus arvensis): Convolvulaceae Blue Gem (Hebe x franciscana): Plantaginaceae Calla Lily (Zantedeschia aethiopica): Araceae................... <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_razz.gif" title=":P" class="bb_smilies" /> ~~~A fLoWeR <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> , sometimes known as a bloom or blossom, is the reproductive structure found in flowering plants (plants of the division Magnoliophyta, also called angiosperms). The biological function of a flower is to mediate the union of male sperm with female ovum in order to produce seeds. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Cassia.jpg">Cassia Fistula. A hermaphrodite flower showing both male and female parts. <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> Flowers are every where and makes a pretty topic for and of philology and etymology. Many flowers have important symbolic meanings in culture. The practice of assigning meanings to flowers is known as floriography....such as within art are representative of the female genitalia, as seen in the works of artists such as Georgia O'Keeffe, Imogen Cunningham and so many more...<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Vanilla1web.jpg"> Vanilla planifolia (an orchid - source of vanilla) This evergreen genus occurs worldwide in tropical and subtropical regions, from tropical America to tropical Asia, New Guinea and West Africa. It was known to the Aztecs for its flavoring qualities. The genus was established in 1754 by Plumier, based on J. Miller. The name came from [u]the Spanish word "vainilla", diminutive form of "vaina" (meaning "sheath"), which is in turn derived from Latin "vagina"......The SOUL is ...The primary purpose of a flower is reproduction. Since the flowers are the reproductive organs of plant, they mediate the joining of the sperm, contained within pollen, to the ovules - contained in the ovary. Pollination is the movement of pollen from the anthers to the stigma. The joining of the sperm to the ovules is called fertilization. All words of this FORUM are to better MANKIND ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Ophrys_apifera_flower1.jpg">~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~.................................................................................... Ophrys apifera, flower <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" /> [ <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_cool.gif" title="8)" class="bb_smilies" /> ]until next time ...home work ? <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Bandel_Rose.jpg"> leoNard on "TORTURE: more than words?" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/torture-more-than-words#post-12403 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:31:21 +0000 leoNard 12403@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_(weapon)">Any-boby- can join this CLUB <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> </a>.....Lets have an analysis of "TORTURE"! .......... <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_razz.gif" title=":P" class="bb_smilies" /> With WORDS!.......... <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4puCtdG3Mk&feature=related">Hey, Yoko has something to say. Take that! </a>........*****...... <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2a/Battle_flag_of_the_US_Confederacy.svg/2000px-Battle_flag_of_the_US_Confederacy.svg.png">...Is symbolism torture??? <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Mongolian_Musician.jpg"> <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" /> :lol: ..........Words and sticks can be a way to learn right!! <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Breaking_Wheel.jpg">I like the breaking wheel, also known as the Catherine wheel or simply the wheel, was a torture device used for capital punishment in the Middle Ages and early modern times for public execution by cudgeling to death.......What are some cool tortures?..... <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Lamanie_kolem_L_001xx.jpg"> :(With life being alive; is torture normal?) Can we write torture? Is democracy torture? Is capitalism anti-torture? Is religion a "good torture"?????...To be honest...from above link.....A club (also known as cudgel, baton, truncheon, night stick, sap and bludgeon) is among the simplest of all weapons. A club is essentially a short staff, or stick, usually made of wood, and wielded as a weapon. Typically, a club is small enough to be wielded in one hand. Clubs that need both hands to wield are called quarterstaffs in English. Various kinds of clubs are used in martial arts and other specialized fields, including the law enforcement baton. The wounds inflicted by a club are generally known as bludgeoning or blunt-force trauma injuries HotForWords on "Just Clichés - one per post" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/just-cliches-one-per-post#post-2446 Sun, 28 Dec 2008 08:06:10 +0000 HotForWords 2446@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ Let's just agree to disagree billydeeuk on "How to pronounce "2010"?" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/how-to-pronounce-2010#post-12427 Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:27:29 +0000 billydeeuk 12427@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ SOURCE: <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/6897583/BBC-stars-discuss-how-to-pronounce-2010.html">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/6897583/BBC-stars-discuss-how-to-pronounce-2010.html</a> How are people going to pronounce the New Year? 2009 has, particularly in the UK, been pronounced as "Two thousand and nine" instead of "Twenty-oh-nine" however a debate is raging as to whether 2010 is "Two thousand and ten" or "twenty-ten". Personally, I pronounce it "two thousand and ten" (even though the London Olympics is I state as "the twenty-twelve olympics") as I just think it sounds nicer. What does everybody else think? buzzword on "the power of words" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/the-power-of-words#post-4875 Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:51:51 +0000 buzzword 4875@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ the power of words is remarkable. please provide links to speeches you value and provide an explanation as to why you value them. they may be video, audio or text based recordings. further contribute to the dialogue by discussing these speeches as well. buzzword on "sports jargon" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/sports-jargon#post-10895 Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:22:06 +0000 buzzword 10895@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ please submit words, terms, cliches, quotes, etc, related to sports. if it is specific to a particular sport, identify that sport. please define the term, its origin and anything else that may provide context for its use. further, one could supply a link or a pic for additional clarification. pedanticKarl on "A HotForWords Online Glossary" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/a-hotforwords-online-glossary#post-8702 Fri, 29 May 2009 04:55:01 +0000 pedanticKarl 8702@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ Glossary Collection Point Back in August 23, 2008, Captain Jack posted the following: Excerpt: <blockquote> Alx (alex), had an idea for a glossary of words that some of us know about but not others. For example the word morpheme. Sure anyone could look it up, but how would you add it to your vocabulary without knowing how to use it in a conversation? Alx sees that a glossary would invoke conversations about these words and help others learn how they are used in our language. I’m presently looking into the possibility of having Marina adding this to HFW. </blockquote> <a href="http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/08/23/new-projects/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/08/23/new-projects/</a> So, perhaps this section of the Forum could be a collection point of interesting words that people know about and perhaps even use, but really don't know what they mean or how those words came about. A lot of us know about misused and abused use of words, and some of those words may be part of an ongoing evolution. Language experts like aLx, Marina and others can assist and guide us in sorting out the wheat from the chaff. Go ahead and submit the words that you would like to see in a HotForWords Glossary and tell everyone why such a word interests you. Thank you in advance for your contribution. <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> buzzword on "minced oaths - one per post" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/minced-oaths-one-per-post#post-8772 Sun, 31 May 2009 19:56:17 +0000 buzzword 8772@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minced_oath">minced oaths</a> one per fricking post. buzzword on "language and culture" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/language-and-culture#post-270 Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:42:56 +0000 buzzword 270@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ this is where i am going with this topic. what does a word or phrase convey about a society or individual? how does language influence perceptions? how is language used to transmit culture? what beliefs and customs influence one's understanding of language and words? have cultures used language to order and maintain ethnic or national identity? what are the forces that change or conserve language? what are some of your questions? HotForWords on "Good Resources for Research ONLINE" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/good-resources-for-research-online#post-252 Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:59:08 +0000 HotForWords 252@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ Here is a list of great resources ONLINE for researching word and phrase origins. <a href="http://www.oed.com">Oxford English Dictionary (OED)</a> - this is my main source, butit costs about $25 a month for a subscription The <a href="http://www.etymonline.com/">Online Etymology Dictionary</a> is a great place to do an initial search on an origin. I find that they match many of my other sources, including the OED and a bunch of my books. <a href="http://www.wordorigins.org/">Wordorigins.org</a>, by the author of a great book called <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0195375572?ie=UTF8&tag=hofowo-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0195375572">Word Myths</a>, this website has great stories on words as well as phrases. <a href="http://www.word-detective.com/">The Word Detective</a>, another great resource. I'll keep adding more in a bit. thoughtonfire on "Following The HotForWord's Calendar" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/following-the-hotforwords-calendar#post-3066 Fri, 02 Jan 2009 20:54:24 +0000 thoughtonfire 3066@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ Great Man, Tomorrow (The Third of January, 1892) is his Birthday. Rest in Peace. Thank you for your Great Work Mr. Tolkien. You created an entire language(s), amazing. (Do you have some words on/for Mr. Tolkien?) alex.tw on "Calendar Etymology" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/calendar-etymology#post-2767 Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:55:18 +0000 alex.tw 2767@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ Let's discuss one thing. Explaining etymology of word "calendar" we have got the logical chain: calendar->calendier->calendarium->calends->kalendae->calare. Look at the "Latin" word "kalendae".According to tradition of Latin Language the letter K was used only rarely, in a small number of loanwords.For example, in wikipedia we can find following:"Latin abandoned the use of K almost completely, preferring C. When Greek words were taken into Latin, the Kappa was converted to C, with a few exceptions such as the term kalendae (calends) and the praenomen Kaeso." (www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K). Do We have unique case of borrowing from Greek? Let's investigate further.There was a famous phrase in Latin "ad kalendas Graecas" Here (www.en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ad_kalendas_Graecas)can be found:"The Kalends (also written Calends) were specific days of the Roman calendar (the first of the month), not of the Greek, and so the “Greek Kalends” would never occur." As you can see there were no any connection of "Kalends" with Greek. So, there are no native latin words beginning with letter K. Word "Kalendae" was borrowed from other language. This word also couldn't come from Greek Language. This way, non-latin word "kalendae" could not origin from Latin word "calare". So, what “kalendae” means? Corvus_moneduloides on "Cheapskate" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/cheapskate#post-2548 Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:24:00 +0000 Corvus_moneduloides 2548@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ So, I discovered this about two and a half hours ago during free association internet browsing and started watching videos and reading comments. I hit the raccoon video and was reading through the comments. Nakedbullwinkle apparently left because his words weren't being used. Marina posted a response and I saw her mention the word cheapskate. She posted that nobody could find its origin. So, I have a grand supposition that comes to me through my area of expertise--biology. I see the word skate and immediately think cartilaginous fish -- chondricthyes. So, I pop through a few websites to find the latin/greek word used for skate. Batis. I then poke around for references to batis and I find a pdf covering food in the ancient world. Batis refers to the thornback ray (Raja clavata). Found at its best in midwinter and to be eaten with cheese and silphium (an extinct plant used as spice; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silphium)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silphium)</a>. What really got me thinking of a connection to cheapskate was the anecdote told by Lynceus "as good eating as an old cloak." cited: <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=FtIXAe2qYDgC&pg=RA1-PA304&lpg=RA1-PA304&dq=greek+batis&source=bl&ots=2-ZUJ2VyTn&sig=l6k4LtoAwU8WrNa4yD6yMV_caJc&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PRA1-PA304,M1" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.com/books?id=FtIXAe2qYDgC&pg=RA1-PA304&lpg=RA1-PA304&dq=greek+batis&source=bl&ots=2-ZUJ2VyTn&sig=l6k4LtoAwU8WrNa4yD6yMV_caJc&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PRA1-PA304,M1</a> I poke around and find that their habitat is saltwater/brine and can be found commonly in the eastern Atlantic, from Norway, south through the mediterranean, the western Baltic, and the western Black Sea and in briny estuaries along those coasts. They are docile and benthic, with a tendency to lie motionless unless closely approached and described as a slow swimmer. cited: <a href="http://www.elasmodiver.com/Thornback%20skate.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.elasmodiver.com/Thornback%20skate.htm</a> Here's where the supposition begins. It's a common, coarse fleshed animal that is described as not all that tasty. So, as food goes, it would be relatively inexpensive. If someone had money, but bought batis, then they are being cheap. Batis is the greek root of skate. Maybe cheap skate originally described a kind of food and went on to become an adjective for penny pinchers. So, there you go. It's plausible. Not that it's anything more than supposition, but it certainly fits nicely. Never count out biology when looking at etymology. Jon