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<title>pennsyltucky9 on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>pennsyltucky9</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Paul&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The Ibis abides.  Hope you get a chance to do some paddling while you&#38;#39;re out on the coast, it&#38;#39;s always been therapeutic for me (except once or twice, lol). Just make sure and check your tides and corrections carefully.
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<title>fromvikingstock on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>fromvikingstock</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Kent,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Sounds like you&#38;#39;re well outfitted for the week-end and then some. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It looks like I&#38;#39;m going to have to miss the festival. I&#38;#39;m relying on Spirit Airlines for low cost airfare and their cheap flight scheduling is sort of a grab bag. I got a cheap flight to LA Sept 5th and I&#38;#39;ll be there until the 11th, but I couldn&#38;#39;t get a return late enough to stay for the 12th and 13th. And taking my boat is out of the question. I&#38;#39;ll be thinking of you, though. Hate to miss the Neville Brothers.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I would like to hear more about your music. Do you cover any bands I might have heard, or is your music original? Who do you like, who would you jam with if you could, and who do you listen to when you&#38;#39;re chillin&#38;#39; at home. Send me a link to one of your gig tracks if there are any on YouTube or wherever. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Here&#38;#39;s another preview:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.omegaevents.com/russianriverfestivals/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.omegaevents.com/russianriverfestivals/&#60;/a&#62; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;How is the Ibis?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Paul
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<title>pennsyltucky9 on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>pennsyltucky9</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@ Paul,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;That&#38;#39;s my plan, basically.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The idea I had was to place the 2 &#38;quot;joists&#38;quot; far enough apart that a person could fit between them, then lay a couple short deck boards across the top (just 2 or 3 at each end should do it) and leave an open hole in the middle of the deck/bridge to pull myself up through, using both rails for support like a set of parallel bars you might see in the gym. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Instead of swinging my feet into the canoe directly from the water (too messy), I&#38;#39;d probably sit down onto the decking and drain for a bit or towel off before climbing back into the boat. If I find it too difficult to get out of the water that way (if the deck is too high off the water, or I&#38;#39;m not strong enough to haul my wet ass all the way up and out in one pull) it would be a piece of cake to attach a hanging stirrup loop for the feet and use it as a ladder rung to attain the extra lift.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;My climbing partner will be attending also, and he has a full-sized canoe as well. If we can pull it off, he wants to make a deck big enough to actually lie down on so he can get out of his canoe seat and move around a bit more.  Personally, that seemed like overkill to me, considering that we&#38;#39;ll have to haul a lot more materials and spend considerable time erecting and breaking down the deck.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But he works at a lumberyard and has access to a nice wood shop, so I&#38;#39;m definitely willing to meet him halfway on some of the design issues, at least.  This guy has rescued me more than once, and vice versa. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;We&#38;#39;ll confer tomorrow (Wed.) over some plan drawings and reach a consensus on what we think we can or can&#38;#39;t pull off. Whatever happens, it&#38;#39;ll be a fun project. A preliminary field test will be the utimate decider of the outcome, of course.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Here&#38;#39;s a list of extra gear I&#38;#39;m planning to bring for use on this special operation:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;-Bottom anchor (a one-gallon Clorox jug filled with steel chain) &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;-Standard rain umbrellas for shade (golf-sized is about the maximum necessary)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;-Extra tiedowns: short bungee-cords, long bungee-cords, some strong nylon line&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;-At least 4 spring-activated compression straps for anchoring the deck to the boats&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;-At least 2 long 2x4s for the joists &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;-Some short tongue-and-groove decking boards with holes drilled through the ends for lashing to the joists&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;-Boogie-board, inner tube, or air mattress for enhanced waterborne mobility&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;-A tiny inflatable raft (child-sized) just in case I want to float the cooler or other gear outside the boat&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;-A length of 1-inch tubular nylon webbing for the foot-stirrup ladder&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;As to your parting query:  No.  My roommate is not a girl, she&#38;#39;s a woman.  She&#38;#39;s tentatively planning on attending as well, but not on the &#38;quot;blues&#38;quot; day which I believe is Sunday. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;-Kent
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<title>fromvikingstock on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>fromvikingstock</dc:creator>
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&#60;p&#62;If the two boats are both canoes I would connect them with poles that attach to the gunnels of both boats, making a make shift caramaran out of two separate canoes. To get on board in deep water, you would pull yourself up on the poles in between the boats and then swing your feet into one or the other canoe.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Is your room mate a girl?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Paul
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<title>pennsyltucky9 on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@FVS:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Hey, I&#38;#39;m ready right now.  Too bad I have to wait 6 weeks.  Meantime, some field-test research is in order.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;My roommate and I are planning to run some tests on ways to create a deck that connects two boats side-by-side with some space in between.  If we can figure out an easy way to rig it, with minimal parts, we&#38;#39;d like to devise some sort of catamaran-style deck-type situation that we can use to get in and out of the water without capsizing the boat(s) or swamping it every time.   The parts would all have to be stowable in a standard hull.  Probably some nice strong 12 foot poles or 2x4s with a couple short planks bound into place with webbing or cord would suffice.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It might be more complication than it&#38;#39;s worth, but if the weather is real hot it&#38;#39;s likely that I&#38;#39;ll want to spend some time in the river.  Now I don&#38;#39;t know if you&#38;#39;ve ever tried to crawl aboard a floating canoe from deep water, but if you&#38;#39;re like me you can imagine it&#38;#39;s probably not too damn easy.    &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_rolleyes.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;:roll:&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If we&#38;#39;re watching the concert from the same place we usually get, we&#38;#39;ll be moored in place in deep water and soon surrounded by others so we can&#38;#39;t just take the boat ashore to empty out any water that gets in or we&#38;#39;ll lose our seat.  And I hate having water in my boat. It makes a mess of everything. So building a temporary floating habitat with a nice stable place we can use to haul our soggy asses out of the water every now and then seems like a cool way to go, at least for this event.   &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;That&#38;#39;s our plan, or one of them, anyway.  We have some ideas on the drawing board.
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<title>fromvikingstock on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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&#60;p&#62;Are you getting ready?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.omegaevents.com/russianriverfestivals/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.omegaevents.com/russianriverfestivals/&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>fromvikingstock on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
<link>http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/river-sports-canoeing-kayaking-rafting/page/2#post-9100</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>fromvikingstock</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@pennsyltucky9&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Outdoor benefits are cool. I haven&#38;#39;t played one since I left California. I used to sit in with a band called Tomcat Courtney &#38;amp; the Blues Dusters in San Diego way back when. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Re:&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;center&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;...and try my best not to sing.&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;/center&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;That was my contribution too. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Now I play keyboards at home and cyber-jam like in this session with Beck and Record Club doing &#38;#39;Sunday Morning&#38;#39; by Velvet Underground:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://twitvid.io/abVr&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://twitvid.io/abVr&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Re:  &#38;quot;Exposure before recognition&#38;quot;  So true. But one of my functions on Twitter is amplifying authenticity when I find it. It&#38;#39;s a form of recognition among my small but perceptive group of followers. So send me something. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;And don&#38;#39;t worry about the unemployed musicians working as waiters, waitresses, and busboys. It makes for good food service -- I did it myself for three years in Florida.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62; Paul&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;btw: Livestock have good taste in music.&#60;br /&#62;
and you should get on Twitter for #musicmondays.
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<title>pennsyltucky9 on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
<link>http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/river-sports-canoeing-kayaking-rafting#post-9099</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>pennsyltucky9</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;It was no big deal, Paul.  I played an outdoor benefit for some friends, with a trio I&#38;#39;ve been practicing with for a couple months now.  The singer/songwriter invited me to join, and the bass player is also a close friend, so what the hey. The atmosphere is laid back but the pay is minimal to nonexistant, so it goes.  I play guitar, do some of the arranging, and try my best not to sing.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Were it not for the kids&#38;#39; voices, the planes flying by overhead, traffic on the rural highway, and the wind blasting directly into the mic, we might have gotten a pretty good recording.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Exposure comes before recognition in the dictionary, and the same applies here as well.  We&#38;#39;re so underdeveloped we don&#38;#39;t EVEN have a facebook page. Lol, I&#38;#39;m convinced they&#38;#39;d love us in Japan, France, Germany or Belgium.  But we all have to keep our day jobs.  Gotta make a living.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Meanwhile here we sit, trapped in a land with a million unemployed musicians working as waiters, waitresses, and busboys.   Life is funny that way. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The livestock seemed to enjoy it, anyway.    &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;:-)&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt; 
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<title>fromvikingstock on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
<link>http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/river-sports-canoeing-kayaking-rafting#post-9098</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@pennsyltucky9&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I like the way you talk.&#60;br /&#62;
When you say &#38;#39;play&#38;#39; you mean play as in perform or jam with other musicians? Or &#38;#39;play&#38;#39; as in play mp3s on your ipod? If the former, is there any way I could listen? Or if the latter, maybe you could throw me a link to something you like.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Here&#38;#39;s one of my recently adopted favorites (not from rock and roll but toe tappin&#38;#39; country):&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph49YlxCqi8&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph49YlxCqi8&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#38;quot;It Happens&#38;quot;
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<title>pennsyltucky9 on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
<link>http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/river-sports-canoeing-kayaking-rafting#post-9096</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>pennsyltucky9</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;What have I done to promote rock and roll?   &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I play it.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Yesterday we played for over 4 hours.  What more devotion to the cause can one expect than sacrificing a perfectly good Saturday to the Muses of rhythm economics, volume dynamics and dissonant harmony development?   A rhetorical question, I assure you....
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<title>fromvikingstock on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
<link>http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/river-sports-canoeing-kayaking-rafting#post-9083</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@beevee14&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Hey Beeve, &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I guess I take it back what I said earlier about whitewater people. If you&#38;#39;re into it, there must be room for a level-headed guy in the raft. Nice to hear from you over here on River Sports. I&#38;#39;ve been so busy having fun lately, I hardly have time to tweet. Trying to get out on a lake today before the week-end crowd fills it up. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;About John Mayer, here&#38;#39;s what he&#38;#39;s done lately:&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvrtuAmHHnI&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvrtuAmHHnI&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;What have you done to promote Rock and Roll?  &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;:-)&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;-- FVS --
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<title>fromvikingstock on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>fromvikingstock</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Kent&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I&#38;#39;m not sure what that is on the canoe floor. Might be the extra socks I took along. It was 35 degrees that day. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Compare these two videos:&#60;br /&#62;
Mill Creek after the heavy rain:&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;a href=&#34;http://twitvid.io/abTF&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://twitvid.io/abTF&#60;/a&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
Mill Creek today, two weeks later:&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;a href=&#34;http://twitvid.io/ablP&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://twitvid.io/ablP&#60;/a&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;a href=&#34;http://twitvid.io/ablO&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://twitvid.io/ablO&#60;/a&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
That&#38;#39;s what it takes in Michigan to simulate the tidal action in stream depth you get in coastal areas.
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<title>pennsyltucky9 on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
<link>http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/river-sports-canoeing-kayaking-rafting#post-9079</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>pennsyltucky9</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@BV14: You&#38;#39;re welcome, but I&#38;#39;m kinda partial to the canoe stories.  You want rafting stories, you&#38;#39;ll just have to [dredge] &#38;#39;em up y&#38;#39;own dam se&#38;#39;f.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;@Paul: Okay, just shoot me then.  &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;:)&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt;   Nice photos.  What&#38;#39;s with the shadow on the floor of the boat?  Looks like you&#38;#39;re being attacked by a killer [ptarmigan].
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<title>beevee14 on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
<link>http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/river-sports-canoeing-kayaking-rafting#post-9076</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>beevee14</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hey FVS, whats been happenin&#38;#39;? I like Mayer, but when was the last time he did anything(besides be on TMZ)? I did find that other post. This is from when P9 first became a TA:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;We shot the New River gorge one time and it was great! They had some Class V’s that were crazy. It was wierd because you had to go over one of the worlds highest single span bridges to get to the jump off point. When you looked down, the water was about an inch wide! When they show people BASE jumping off a bridge over a river on tv, it is usually here.&#60;br /&#62;
The raft behind us got stuck in a hole and were surfing. One of the guys got sucked out and popped up next to us about a 1/4 mile down river. He said he got slammed into the boulder that made the hole and had to walk with his hands along the bottom of the raft untill it kicked him out the side! The people were wigging out. We threw a rope, pulled them out and then pleaded with our guide to let us go back up this eddy so we could slide back over the same hole! We tried, but I dont think his heart was in it and I’m pretty sure he thought we were crazy as we did nothing to make him think otherwise the WHOLE trip. We wanted our moneys worth. We also jumped off of this rock that was at least 20-25 feet in the air. You looked at it from the water and thought, &#38;quot;That ain&#38;#39;t shit.&#38;quot; Then you get up there and you think, &#38;quot;oh,SHIT!&#38;quot; I did it though. Even went back to do a flip off of it! This site will have you thinking of things you haven’t thought of in a long time…
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<title>beevee14 on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
<link>http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/river-sports-canoeing-kayaking-rafting#post-9075</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Thanx P9, I&#38;#39;m  surprised you could find that! Was there a post around there about the New River/ whitewater rafting? I thought that one was halfway decent for this forum. Speaking of Ronnies, a story:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;We only worked half-days on Saturdays at my work, so about 10 of us planned a boating excursion one Saturday after work. One guy had a houseboat on the Ohio and we met there. Another guy had a 16 foot open bow nearby so he went and got that. Thats when it got fun. We went out on that the rest of the day tubing and drinking. I remember I was on the tube(upriver) and my man was having his way with everybody, knocking them off of the tube. He got me out there and did everything he could, finally putting the &#38;quot;whip&#38;quot; on me, and just going in circles. I was riding it out, then I flipped! I was still moving pretty good, so I heaved it back over. He was slowing down, thinking I was done for, the look on his face...  8O. He finally got me off, but I made him work for it. Then, I get back in the boat and my friend Mike tells me that during my first roll over, There was a boat full of girls cheering me on! Made me feel good for a second.  &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_razz.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;:P&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt; &#60;br /&#62;
So. We&#38;#39;ve been in the sun since noon. Partying on the water and having a good time. We pull into the dock and one idiot goes to jump out and does a Ronnie! Classic, one foot on the dock and the other on the boat and pushed the boat away. He jacked himself up pretty bad. He needed stitches and was pretty banged up. Come Monday morning, that guy called in sick and another guy called in sunburnt! We had been talking about the boat trip all day Saturday, so our boss was not very happy with the whole situation and let us know it!  &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_evil.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;:evil:&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I also do what P9 says with the canoe handle stabilization technique, and it works very well.
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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&#60;p&#62;Led Zepplin &#60;u&#62;is&#60;/u&#62; Rock and Roll.&#60;br /&#62;
What do you think of @johncmayer?&#60;br /&#62;
I love this:&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi3TLDS7hm8&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi3TLDS7hm8&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;--FVS--
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Here&#38;#39;s an entry written by Beevee14 on June 2, 2009 and re-posted with permission:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;CANOEING! Now your talking! Actually, I live five miles from Miami Whitewater River. Isn&#38;#39;t THAT ironic. We would go canoeing at least once a summer, get hammered, get burned, get hurt and talk about it the rest of the year. While you have to give it respect, it is nothing like rafting! Still a few stories, though: My brother and I were in a canoe and we were tore up from the floor up! The river was high so we were running fast. We were by the side and there was an overhanging branch that more or less knocked us out of the canoe. It got sucked under about five feet of water and went under a branch and got STUCK! We could not get it loose. The river was so fast, anything we did wedged it farter. I mean, it was gone. Never seen anything like it. Well, we got everybody together and kind of made it down to the livery so we could ease on out of there. It worked and Morgans Canoe is one canoe shy(I&#38;#39;m sure thay found it when the river went down). My brother is still pissed because he had his one of a kind Led Zeppelin T-shirt that his girlfriend made all of us tied to the canoe! GONE! Definately a sad day, because MINE was tied on there, too. Sad day, indeed  &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_cry.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;:cry:&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt;  And yes, around here we think Zeppelin is a damn fine group!  &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_mrgreen.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;:mrgreen:&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt;  Ahhhh, so many stories, so little time... BTW, It kills me when people say they DON&#38;#39;T like Zeppelin but they DO like rock-n-roll. I&#38;#39;m like &#38;#39;Damn, have you ever HEARD them?!&#38;#39;
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<link>http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/river-sports-canoeing-kayaking-rafting#post-9072</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Damiana</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;i searched for the definition of &#38;quot;wet louie&#38;quot;, but found nothing. thinking it&#38;#39;s a colloquialism for a sexual act..
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<title>fromvikingstock on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Pennsyltucky9&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;You&#38;#39;re the one who should be making the instructional videos. Maybe when I get there  in September I can shoot you giving lessons on how to party.  &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;:-)&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Just uploaded some photos and videos at &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.flickr.com/..&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.flickr.com/..&#60;/a&#62;.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://bit.ly/CEBd2&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://bit.ly/CEBd2&#60;/a&#62; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Some are of Mill Creek  &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;:-)&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Paul
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 08:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;They forgot some important details in that video.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;When the guy steps out of the boat, notice that he pushes himself off from the gunwale while both feet are on the imaginary shore and the boat doesn&#38;#39;t move.  We all know that&#38;#39;s not what happens when it&#38;#39;s floating.  Look at it again. He would have been in the water right there. Ronnie! &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The other thing I noticed is that there was no mention of using the paddle to steady the boat for entry and exit whenever possible. For example, most of the places where I put in aren&#38;#39;t very deep.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So I reach over the boat and place my paddle into the water right next to it and plant the end of the blade firmly onto the bottom.  Then I hold onto the handle tightly while applying some weight straight down onto it (the shaft is in a vertical orientation).  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;This has the dual effect of both offering me a more-or-less solid object to brace against so I&#38;#39;m less likely to lose my balance (as opposed to a floating one) and keeping the boat from moving away from me.  The paddle anchored to the bottom by my weight traps the boat, immobilizing it.  There&#38;#39;s no way it can move away from me when I step in.  I almost always use this technique for getting in and out of the boat, unless there&#38;#39;s some really deep and exceptionally soft mud.
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<title>Damiana on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
<link>http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/river-sports-canoeing-kayaking-rafting#post-9063</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Damiana</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@fromvikingstock&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;lol! sweet.  &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_wink.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;:wink:&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;i&#38;#39;ve pulled a ronnie. my nikon and i got drenched!  &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_eek.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;8O&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt; &#60;br /&#62;
i&#38;#39;ve heard of a wet willie.. but not a wet louis (what is it?).
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<title>fromvikingstock on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
<link>http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/river-sports-canoeing-kayaking-rafting#post-9062</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Pennsyltucky9&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I saw a big fat lady pull a &#38;quot;Ronnie&#38;quot; once from a boat dock on America&#38;#39;s Funniest Home Videos. It was hilarious. But this guy has the right idea:&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qh2aKELrTg&#38;amp;feature=fvw&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qh2aKELrTg&#38;amp;feature=fvw&#60;/a&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
You can&#38;#39;t pull a &#38;quot;Ronnie&#38;quot; on grass.....&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;hahahahahahahah  &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;:-)&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Why do they call it a Ronnie and not a Wet Louie ?
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<title>fromvikingstock on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Damiana&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I love it when a hot lips Gravatar agrees with me  &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;:-)&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt; 
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<title>pennsyltucky9 on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
<link>http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/river-sports-canoeing-kayaking-rafting#post-9053</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@fromvikingstock  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Yeah I  camped there about six years ago or something like that.  As I recall, it&#38;#39;s a ways up the mountain on a pretty tiny  (often one-lane) road, so don&#38;#39;t bring the biggest RV you can find.  The camping was sweet, but take care not to step on any banana slugs.  They&#38;#39;ll take ya deep!   &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_wink.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;;)&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt; 
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<title>Damiana on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Damiana</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;this thread reminds me of days in canada we&#38;#39;d portage from lake to lake with our canoe. good times.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;white water kayaking and rafting and snow kayaking are big where i live, but i agree with fromvikingstock.. it&#38;#39;s deranged, unless you really know what you&#38;#39;re doing. even then.. so unpredictable.
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>fromvikingstock</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Pennsyltucky9:&#60;br /&#62;
Do you know anything about Armstrong Redwoods State Nature Reserve?&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.parks.ca.gov/default.asp?page_id=450&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.parks.ca.gov/default.asp?page_id=450&#60;/a&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
I&#38;#39;m looking for a place to camp near Guerneville before/during/after &#38;quot;Jazz on the River&#38;quot;.
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<title>pennsyltucky9 on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Here&#38;#39;s an un-word entry I found.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;1183. Ronnie (rŏ-nē)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;a. (n.) While exiting a canoe, when one foot is on the land or dock and the other leg is in the canoe, and both surfaces spread away from each other resulting in the person falling into the water.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;example: My uncle pulled a Ronnie.
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<title>Evan Owen on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I once canoed down the Nooksack River during a hundred year flood in 1991.  Placid as a lake where the water was impounded behind I-5; but when I shot the rapids under the bridge, I dang near got swept into a stand of alder saplings on the riverbank.
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<title>pennsyltucky9 on "River Sports -- Canoeing, Kayaking, Rafting"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>pennsyltucky9</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I almost included a paragraph about rakes (tree trunks or other stationary objects through which the water flows but the boat won&#38;#39;t go) in my earlier entry about hazards where I mentioned sweepers and sills, but I edited it out because the entry was already too long. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62; As you can see, lots of people drown in those situations.  They may think nothing bad can happen as long as they stay afloat, but you really have to know your waterway.  You also have to give the proper respect to the power of floodwater. It takes you places your normal waterway doesn&#38;#39;t go, where there are all kinds of potential land mines to deal with.  A lot of times, you can hardly tell where the main current is passing through a wide ponded area, and suddenly you&#38;#39;ll start moving faster than you wanted toward an obstacle you really don&#38;#39;t want to tangle with, like a line of tree trunks. The water can force a boat sideways up against them, deep-six it, capsize it, crush the hull or bend it in half within seconds.
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Sounds like a good way to meet ladies. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Article on the front page of today&#38;#39;s Ann Arbor News tells how high the water is on the Huron River:&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;I guess I was lucky to escape with only spider bites. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I&#38;#39;m in for the Russian River Jazz Festival -- no matter how you spell the town.
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