http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ A place to discuss all kinds of stuff! en Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:36:04 +0000 http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-8840 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:48:34 +0000 Greatest Potential 8840@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>test: <center><font size="50"><font color="blue">TEST</center></font></font> </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-7809 Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:16:49 +0000 leonard 7809@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>Good job CampKohler-Sacramento CA: &quot;I have got to let my clay dry into sand; box of grains for me&quot; Thanks for this help and peace out TOO...... </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-6717 Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:46:50 +0000 CampKohler - Sacramento CA 6717@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>. </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-5751 Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:54:51 +0000 CampKohler - Sacramento CA 5751@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>Che Volet: HFW is hosted by an outfit in Florida, so I doubt that she bought a box* and shipped it there. Probably HFW is just a slice of time on one machine, with all the other slices being other sites they are hosting on the same machine.</p> <p>If you obtain a DOS prompt (for Windows XP: <code>Start | All Programs | Accessories | Command Prompt </code>), type <code>tracert hotforwords.com [Enter]</code>, you will see your tickle flying across the country and winding up at something called HOSTDIME. Now Google them and you will see what's what. I suspect that the guy M used to design HFW hooked her up with them. If not him, whoever her ghost Webmaster is did.</p> <p>BTW, notice that the end of the tracert says <code>quad.hotforwords.com</code>. Does that mean that there are four sites on the server HFW is assigned to? I would like to know if my guess is right, but M (or somebody advising her) is unlikely to reveal.** </p> <p>--- ---<br /> *If M did provide the hardware, imagine the problems of getting the host staff to be familiar with it well enough to do repairs, have the correct parts on hand and so forth. It would be a logistical nightmare if every Tom, Dick and Harry customer had it's own unique hardware. No, they probably have standardized, very compact servers that can be swapped out logically (vs. physically). The bigger the hosting outfit, the more likely this is to be so. This is not to say that you can't do it; you can get anything you want if you are willing to pay, but it would be prohibitively costly and the reliability would not be as great.</p> <p>**He/she has this &quot;Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain&quot; mentality, which IMHO, is silly. We can't all be Webmasters and networking gurus, so I think it quite obvious that M has &quot;people.&quot; I can't imagine what the advantage would be in not having users correspond directly with a Webmaster or other staff. Maybe when M writes her memoirs someday, she will tell us why she thought the secrecy to be necessary. {<em>CK reads the answer on his deathbed and, with his last breath, croaks out &quot;Yesss! I </em>knew<em> it! Gaaaack!</em>} </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-5750 Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:19:34 +0000 CampKohler - Sacramento CA 5750@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>Transferred from John's <a href="http://www.hotforwords.com/2009/02/01/blitz/#comment-107916">Blitz lesson comment</a>. (Underlines inserted in entities to prevent execution; they are deleted in actual use.)</p> <p>The standard IBM PC keyboard provides the APL quote, which is represented in HTML by entity &amp;_#34; (appearing as &quot;). There also exists the curly (left and right) quotes one sees in the print media, namely &amp;_#8220 and &amp;_#8221;, appearing as &#8220; and &#8221;, respectively.</p> <p>Of these three, you are using the last one, but your keyboard should be generating only the first one. I am very interested exactly which keystrokes you are using to get your quote marks. Ditto Capman. </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-5587 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:11:38 +0000 Che Rambler 5587@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>Marina do you own the servers/hard drive that all this info is stored or are you renting server space from a large company? </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/advertising-the-forum#post-4575 Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:28:33 +0000 Greatest Potential 4575@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>It's true. Kids love fun&amp;games. When class time is over we put the toys and crayons and letter blocks away because we respect teacher. </p> <p>1,000,000 bottles of beer on the wall, 1,000,000 bottles of beer...take one down, pass it around, 999,999 bottles of beer on the wall... </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-4520 Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:12:57 +0000 Greatest Potential 4520@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <blockquote><p><strong>&gt;&lt;</strong><center><img src="http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:TBcDhxH_vSniRM:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/31/Color_block.png"></center><strong>&gt;&lt;</strong></p></blockquote> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-4501 Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:50:28 +0000 Me Lika Do The Cha Cha 4501@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>I get it. Those were old bugs from the initial setup.<br /> @CK - thanks for the helpful tidbits &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_lol.gif&quot; title=&quot;:lol:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/advertising-the-forum#post-4457 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:28:50 +0000 Me Lika Do The Cha Cha 4457@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>@classical_hero: Part of Marina's presentation is to allow things to flow organically.<br /> The current setup let's her pick up on her word requests from emails / main page.<br /> @Bob: The kids are just having fun playing. Fun and games, y'know? I notice you like<br /> to post to many of the erstwhile games, and with some skill, that I've seen.<br /> You are welcome to add a forum for any relevant topic you wish. The only structure<br /> is the common sense rules as one would use at the local pub ( Politics, Religion, Philosophy, and other baggage are to be left at the door, thank you ).<br /> I started one for a &quot;Gay&quot; word origin discussion. Not much going on in there...<br /> Hey! How about a real irrelevant game, like 1,000,000 botlles of beer on the wall? &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_mrgreen.gif&quot; title=&quot;:mrgreen:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-3728 Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:25:28 +0000 CampKohler - Sacramento CA 3728@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>. </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/advertising-the-forum#post-3510 Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:23:13 +0000 Greatest Potential 3510@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>Join HotForWords forums<br /> because:<br /> there's no valid defense <img src="http://thumbnails.truveo.com/0005/DE/CB/DECB4994089636B507590D.jpg"><br /> for not arming yourself with a rich vocabulary</p> <p>Bob, thanks for the cafeteria plug! </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/advertising-the-forum#post-3407 Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:49:22 +0000 Bob 3407@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>Great idea CH. There needs to be a bit more structure to the forums too. Maybe a reason that people don't come here much is that there are no instructions and rules to follow, so they feel timid about posting anything in case they are told off for putting it in the wrong place. The word, sentence and picture games are used fairly frequently as it's pretty obvious what goes on there.<br /> Also, as you point out, people may not realise the forums are here if they only read the comments sections of the lessons. I've only just discovered the "Cafeteria" section which has been opened to allow off topic discussions to be held without cluttering up the lesson comments with irrelevant subjects. </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/advertising-the-forum#post-3256 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 06:42:32 +0000 classical_hero 3256@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>I think it would be good for Marina to try and get more people to realise the forums is the best way to get in contact with Marina. I think one way to get the peoples attention is to do a video on the word forum, which means a place where you can exchange ideas. So to get more people to come to the forums is to make it the offical section where words can be suggested. </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-951 Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:34:05 +0000 CampKohler - Sacramento CA 951@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>CJ: Who said it was important?<br /> <ol type="1"><li>Does it have to be important?</li><li>If it has to be important, how important does it have to be?</li><li>Does it have to be more important than saying, "Hi, Marina?"</li><li>How is importance to be measured and expressed?</li><li>Who is to measure the importance?</li><li>Are we to submit requests for importance analysis and measurement?</li><li>To whom are these requests to be submitted?</li><li>Are forms available for submissions?</li><li>Where may the forms be obtained?</li><li>Has the correct use of the forms been documented?</li><li>Has the correct use of the forms been published?</li><li>Where may the instructions for the forms be obtained?</li><li>How long will it take to process the forms and evaluate the text?</li><li>If it takes more than an hour to receive the importance, will it be too late to do anything about it (edit window timer)?</li><li>If it is too late, then assume the importance is OK.</li></ol> </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-949 Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:57:41 +0000 CampKohler - Sacramento CA 949@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>Linked from Ponzi-scheme comments in response to ChaCha's concern and M's reply on HFW links: (blanks inserted)</p> <p>ChaCha writes &lt; a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpHWr7GgzMg"&gt;(sorry ! sorry ! sorry !)&lt; /a&gt;</p> <p>Then WP records that as &lt; a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpHWr7GgzMg" rel="nofollow" class="extlink" target="_blank"&gt;(sorry ! sorry ! sorry !)&lt; /a&gt;</p> <p>I don't know why ChaCha thought the link was inop; it works. I suppose M saw all the extra stuff that WP added and thought he wasn't doing it correctly. The added stuff is:</p> <p>rel="nofollow" - Tells search engines "don't go there," so as not to increase the target's ratings in those search engines. In all fairness, if we are using someone's page for the entertainment value, I don't see why they should not get credit for the use if there is credit to be had. (I don't remember seeing this attribute before the revision. Is it recent?) </p> <p>class="extlink" - Defines the link as being one that will go outside of HFW, and what WP will do with that information I don't know.</p> <p>target="_blank" - Tells the browser to open the new site in a new browser window.</p> <p>WP will add the above three attributes automatically, so if you are looking at the HTML for your link to see what you did, that is why it is not exactly what you typed. </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-947 Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:52:24 +0000 Captain Jack 947@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>CampKohler, Why is this important? </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-946 Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:31:49 +0000 CampKohler - Sacramento CA 946@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>If you have some information to contribute, such as <em>where</em> something is covered, please feel free to do so. As you did not and I can't read minds, I had to research it myself. Then I published it so others would know. Sorry, if it offended your sensibilities. </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-818 Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:03:11 +0000 popzzz 818@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>Hmmmmmmmm ..... </p> <p>I'm not so sure that you are helping anything and not just adding to the clutter in the forums.</p> <p>All this has already been covered elsewhere ..... </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-810 Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:42:29 +0000 CampKohler - Sacramento CA 810@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>I prevail on youse guys to practice in the sandbox, else this topic will grow to the size of Ethiopia and make it hard to find anything. Don't forget, you have an hour-long edit window, so you can play with a lot of things by simply editing the last sandbox post over and over; you don't have to create a new post for each test.</p> <p>----</p> <p>LINKING TO PLACES IN THE FORUM </p> <p>In this msg, a space is inserted in each link that is to display and not execute so that you can see it. The space should be omitted when constructing links. Manual tags are shown (as seen below the dialog box), but the tag buttons above the box may be used, of course.</p> <p>TOPICS</p> <p>To link to a specific topic, it's: "&lt; a href="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/[modified topic name here] &gt;[Displayed text here]&lt; /a&gt;", where the modified topic name consists of all the words in the name separated by hyphens, e.g. "A wonder discussion" = "a-wonderful-discussion" and "I hate punctuation (especially the [square brackets])' = "i-hate-punctuation-especially-the-square-brackets". Notice that no punctuation marks appearing in the title appear in the modified title. Hovering over any topic title in the Latest Discussions list(s) will reveal the modified topic title at the bottom of your browser window.</p> <p>MESSAGES</p> <p>To link to a specific post in a topic, it's "&lt; href="www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/[modified topic title here]#post-[message number here]&gt;[Displayed text here]&lt; /a]". Thr URL, including msg number, can be seen at the bottom of your browser window by hovering over the number sign (#) that appears at the bottom of each msg following the days-ago number.</p> <p>Under certain circumstances where a msg is not formed (hacking?) and so the number sign is not visible, like <a href="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-376"><u>this one</u></a>, you must use View Source (Windows: right-click on the page for the Context menu and choose View Source) to see the topic's HTML and search [use Ctrl-F] for the msg (or an adjaent one) and it's number.</p> <p>DISPLAYED TEXT</p> <p>If you think the current method of showing link text &mdash; a slightly different color &mdash; is not satisfactory and wish to underline it as is normally done, enclose the link text in U tags, e.g. &lt; u&gt;Link text here&lt; /u&gt;. </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-organization#post-419 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:12:22 +0000 Bob 419@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>A very scholarly, as well as entertaining post, CK.<br /> I agree with all you say, but would like to add a suggestion that there be a category called "YouTube" with sub-categories "Video Making Tech-talk" and "YT General".<br /> I don't know if the software will allow that, but it's what I would try to do if I were organising it.</p> <p>Perhaps another idea would be to have a Bar/Lounge Room category for people to gather to play chess and crack jokes or to have discussions that have no relevance to the current word/lesson on the main site. </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-379 Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:52:50 +0000 Greatest Potential 379@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>picture thingie test:<br /> <img src="http://media.bigoo.ws/content/gif/miscellaneous/miscellaneous_309.gif"> </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-378 Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:50:08 +0000 Greatest Potential 378@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>how do you do the picture thingies? gifs? </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-376 Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:32:31 +0000 popzzz 376@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p><li> </li><br /> Hmmmmmmmm ..... </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-375 Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:31:39 +0000 Greatest Potential 375@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>I better test that url tag too:<br /> <a href="http://"><a href="http://www.wikihow.com/Fly-a-Kite" rel="nofollow">http://www.wikihow.com/Fly-a-Kite</a> -</a> </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-374 Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:24:31 +0000 Greatest Potential 374@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>Some examples of underlined text &#38; bold: <u>Must you always place emphasis on everything?</u> <strong>Hell yes!</strong> </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-373 Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:19:48 +0000 Greatest Potential 373@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>Here, let me test those quote tags <blockquote>I'am not an animal!</blockquote> </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-371 Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:17:21 +0000 Greatest Potential 371@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>Ah, so those are the url tags: [ url=http://][ /url] (Forms at beginning of text.)<br /> I was looking for those &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_exclaim.gif&quot; title=&quot;:!:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-321 Sat, 13 Dec 2008 06:47:41 +0000 CampKohler - Sacramento CA 321@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>The preceding msg is incomplete and I will have to repost it later. Too bad that there is no way to delete it after the edit timer expires. I did learn that:</p> <p>The edit timer is one hour in the forum. If you are working on a message that requires testing. It is best to open two appearances of the forum, one in the sandbox to test and one wherever you wish to publish your results. If you need to do more than one hour of testing, copy all before the hour is up (pasting it into an outside editor to save it if necessary), replace the text msg with a period (the final edit) and then start a new msg and paste it back in again for another hour's work.</p> <p>Whether or not a msg has a reply does not effect the timer. </p> http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/forum-technical-operation#post-320 Sat, 13 Dec 2008 05:32:31 +0000 CampKohler - Sacramento CA 320@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <p>Forum HTML</p> <p>The visual tag buttons at the top of the dialog box do not produce standard HTML tags. They are tags custom to BBPress. Instead of normal angle brackets the tags are formed from square brackets. All tags are formed at the current location of the cursor, except those marked "Forms at begining of text", which tags are inserted at the beginning of the msg and must be moved to where the author needs them to be.</p> <p>These examples have a space inserted in them so that they will be visible instead of executing. In order from the left, the tags produced by the buttons are:</p> <p>[ b][ /b]<br /> [ i][ /i]<br /> [ u][ /u]<br /> [ s][ /s]<br /> [ url=http://][ /url] (Forms at beginning of text.)<br /> [ quote][ /quote]<br /> [ img]http://[ /img] (Forms at beginning of text.)<br /> [ list][ /list]<br /> [ list=1][ /list]<br /> [ *][ /*]<br /> [ center][ /center]<br /> [ code][ /code]</p> <p>The close button supplies any closing tag not yet obtained by clicking a tag button.</p> <p>The manually-typed HTML tags permitted, which are listed below the dialog box, are, left to right:</p> <p>&lt; bbcode&gt;&lt; /bbcode&gt; <bbcode>This is bbcode text.</bbcode><br /> &lt; blockquote&gt; &lt; /blockquote&gt;</p> <blockquote><p>This is blockquoted text.</p> </blockquote> <p>&lt; code&gt; &lt; /code&gt; (No example available yet)<br /> &lt; em&gt; &lt; /em&gt; <em>This is emphasis text.</em><br /> &lt; strong&gt; &lt; /strong&gt; <strong>This is strong text.</strong><br /> &lt; strike&gt; &lt; /strike&gt; <strike>This is strike text.</strike><br /> &lt; center&gt; &lt; /center&gt; <center>This is centered text.</center><br /> &lt; u&gt; &lt; /u&gt; <u>This is underlined text.</u> (This tag is deprecated [obsolete]. Users will think it is a link, so don't use it.)<br /> &lt; hr&gt; (Horizontal rule is shown immediately below.)<hr /></p> <p>I can't get the code text to work yet.<code>This is code text.</code> </p>