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HotForWords Forums » Topic: Being a "sellout" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ A place to discuss all kinds of stuff! en Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:41:31 +0000 Dalek on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/3#post-12229 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:18:04 +0000 Dalek 12229@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ “It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.” ~Winston Churchill~ Captain Jack on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/3#post-12224 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:31:38 +0000 Captain Jack 12224@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ I see there is a fine line from being a sell out and making a living. I guess it's a matter of perception. If one is promoting products they believe in, what is wrong with that? Though, if there is someone who doesn't believe in the product your promoting then you appear to that person as a Sell Out. I know people hate commercials. They are annoying. Well the bad ones. The good ones are ok. The good ones never really get notice much, but the annoying ones are talked about much. Hence our reactions to bad commercials works against us. I can say I've sold myself out for many years. I worked in marketing and sales. It takes a few years, but in time it starts to eat at you. I feel really bad about products I promoted that later proved to be harmful to their bodies or a over valued. For example, people are not very healthy when consuming fast food. Yet I worked my share of fast food restaurants. I help contribute to their illness. Even death.... I sold products that where designed to fail in 6 months in order to convince people to buy and extended warranty. This was not my choice but ordered to. This is just a tiny sample of some things I've done that I'm not proud of. I took a good bite of the RED pill and got out of that industry. Why? To save my soul from anymore destruction. Now that I skipper boats and teach, I feel much better. Anyone have similar stories about selling out and how that's effected you? cj Anonymous on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/3#post-12011 Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:22:16 +0000 Anonymous 12011@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ That was a different time. People are far different to smokers these days. They are in fact, rude, and very self centered and it was not that way 20 years ago either.. I can say the same thing about people who drive. Now they are quite frankly pathetic with the way they do drive and treat pedestrians. They have sold their souls for their transportation, and they must be, "king of the road". I understand this is going on in every country as well..Very sad a possession is worth more than respect of others on the road, and lives...Road rage is all around today, as most drivers gave their souls and sold out to the power of transportation..Self centered behavior is at an all time high. muggins on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/3#post-12005 Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:35:44 +0000 muggins 12005@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzOIhLJ1C-Y#t=00m18s">It might be better to lead by example.</a> Anonymous on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/3#post-12003 Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:43:19 +0000 Anonymous 12003@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ I understand most of what you say..The rich get richer, and have less values and honesty than poor people for one, and when it comes to any aids to help a smoker quit, that was conveniently forgotten about by the masses, but yes, they say they care when in fact they have sold out to politics. Christians and homos... Now homos...I will call them anything I wish too. They are not,"gay". If that were true, then you would not see them bash others for their beliefs that homosexuality is wrong. The percentage of homos who commit suicide is the largest group of individuals, therefor the myth of them being gay is not acceptable. Perhaps the term faggot is best since they choose to call those who believe differently bigots. I find nothing wrong with those words. Those who take offense to them, that is their problem, much like those who find the word,"fuck" to be unacceptable. And now a word from our sponsor...I love making videos, I really do..I come to this apple store because I just like apple stores, and I do not endorse going to apple stores and buy apple products..Thanks for watching my video I made at apple which is located at bla bla bla.. Ya know my favorite saying,I made this video just for you!What a crock of shit! Ya know, I think I want to be a partner so I can just sell condoms...Ya, that works.... <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" /> muggins on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/3#post-12001 Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:07:44 +0000 muggins 12001@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ Funny. I was in agreement on your cigarette point, stating that "...revenues ought to go towards making the patches less expensive." But, you seem to find disagreement somewhere with that. Maybe it was that I didn't list all the methods used to help smokers quit. Nowhere did I say that govt. gave a rat's ass about the people. Our representatives are concerned with getting re-elected. They do a pretty good job of it, since the re-election percentage, if I recall, was near 90%. To the end of getting themselves re-elected, and also of maintaining their super majority in Congress, they are grudgingly considering throwing a bone to small business, so that small biz will start hiring again. Of all the problems we face, employment is at the top of the list. Democrats would rather not give out tax breaks to sm. biz, because it runs counter to the class warfare nonsense that is really the main thrust of the left. But govt. isn't going to create any real jobs, apart from more bureaucrats and jobs for police, firefighters and teachers, all of which are on the margins, and not going to put a dent in the millions of people out of work in the U.S.. I understand why people are class conscious, as my family are all in that camp and I have to listen to it, but the fact is that class warfare comes back to sting the the very people it's supposed to help. If we want to help the needy, help the needy. If you attack corporations or small business owners, then you'd better understand that those of are people who hire. And I would be very careful making sweeping statements about employers, because in my experience, there have been many capable people in that group. There are things we could do better, and things that could be initiated, such as better food distribution to the hungry, unemployment benefits extension during this harsh downturn, and expanding employment development to include job listings nationwide for those who are willing to leave their depressed locales for locations where there are jobs. It's apples and oranges when comparing Christians and "Homos" as you put it. One is a religious group, another is a sexual orientation group. Using the term "Homo" is disrespectful and you shouldn't use the term. It's just as easy to show a modicum of respect, and it's free. I haven't been following who has been 86ed from uTube. People are imperfect and so are their institutions. The imprisoning of innocents will always happen. The duty of society is to minimize it. You don't know most people. It okay for you to have the opinion that most people don't care, but I think it's grossly untrue. In my experience, I've found that most people do care about others. The problem is that there are a myriad of problems in society and the individual is incapable in being involved in all problems. Anonymous on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/3#post-12000 Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:53:40 +0000 Anonymous 12000@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ <blockquote> muggins says... That cigarette addiction is a king hell bitch. I've seen the consequences of it in the hospitals. Lung destruction. Walking down the hallways with an oxygen bottle. If they raise the taxes on cigarettes, then some of that revenue ought to go towards making the patches less expensive. There may be some good news on the horizon as far as jobs go. </blockquote> You must be joking! Not one of the methods or aids have reduced in price!!! <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_evil.gif" title=":evil:" class="bb_smilies" /> If you think the government gives a rats ass about people who do want to quit, you're in dreamland. Big business is only concerned about making money, just as many are as the partners run their games and try to squeeze out the little youtubers, and those who have something to say of substance! Now God forbid we should ever talk about how bad the economy is. The economy is total bullshit! The government has sold out to the rest of the world and their needs. While tons of us poor people are giving up daily, and have nothing to eat on this day, those fortunate are living high on turkey..What the hell is turkey?? I damn near forgot it has been that long, and I do have so fucking much more to say.. I am tired of putting up with all this crap. Smokers have no rights left. This government does not care, just like every damn one of those partners selling out to products, and shitting on the little youtuber trying to get them all to watch their garbage, and forcing them to abide by the rules as the disregard them as you see by checking out the content on the length of these pathetic videos. What is called a ten minute limit for some, being those who are not partners, means nothing to those partners as they go over the limit time after time. Now then, let us see...Selling out...Hmmm, why is it those pathetic homo videos are never taken down yet the christian channels are? People sold out who own youtube, just like many of the rich people sell out period..Not one is worthy of the money they have in their pockets! Not one! Getting back to the economy...Is it any wonder when many jobs are so far away, out miles and miles the companies have sold out to have their business as the poor people who cannot afford a vehicle, those who cannot get any way to these places because of a lack of transportation and those who have been shafted by this insane government? People who have not been homeless, who have not gone without food for days at a time, and especially those who have not been in jail for a crime they did not do, will never understand.. I tell you this, most people have sold out, because they cannot see the results. They are blind to what is going on. The result is most people do not care! muggins on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/3#post-11999 Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:24:16 +0000 muggins 11999@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ @ star magic That cigarette addiction is a king hell bitch. I've seen the consequences of it in the hospitals. Lung destruction. Walking down the hallways with an oxygen bottle. If they raise the taxes on cigarettes, then some of that revenue ought to go towards making the patches less expensive. There may be some good news on the horizon as far as jobs go. The Democrats are coming to the realization that if they don't do something to create jobs, they stand to lose seats in the mid-term elections. I tried to raise the question about small biz with my representative, Zoe Lofgren during a telephone "town meeting", but I was pre-screen by her aids, and somehow time ran out before I was called on. Small business, which includes most of construction, manufacturing and services in the U.S., does most the of the hiring, yet they have been ignored in this downturn. Small business can't afford to donate to re-election campaign funds like the bigger corporations. Proposals being considered include giving small business a tax break for every person hired, and another is to have a payroll tax holiday. Anonymous on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/3#post-11997 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:32:50 +0000 Anonymous 11997@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ Selling out..You Tube partners are doing that as they hang together over a buck. What they want on youtube is not the way it should be. I see so many partners who hang together, it is simply amazing how pathetic these people are.. When I look at the government, I see this same thing. If a person wants to quit, then why are the prices of those stop smoking aids continually rising?????? Just as soon as another tax hits tobacco, then so goes the price upward on stop smoking aids which is very wrong. What this is doing is insuring people do not stop smoking as they know if they fail in their effort to quit, as many have, then they must be more tobacco and what is taken away is food on the table, clothing, and many other items. And this recession has not hit those who have jobs, no, it has hit the poor..But does anyone care?? HELL NO. Greatest Potential on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/3#post-10035 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:02:36 +0000 Greatest Potential 10035@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ @Damiana Thankfully, I don't make the rules here. Nor do I enforce. I merely try and provide helpful suggestions to improve communication. do have a nice day, gp Damiana on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/3#post-10034 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:55:20 +0000 Damiana 10034@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ @gp according to you, i can't join the conversation, disagree with you or reply to your attacks and/or comments w/o being a troll. that's bullshit. done talking now. >:| Greatest Potential on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/3#post-10033 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:48:03 +0000 Greatest Potential 10033@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ @Damiana Please. We are trying to maintain an open conversation here. This is not a \o/ or a \./. If you feel that you may be comment trolling seek assistance here <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_arrow.gif" title=":arrow:" class="bb_smilies" /> <a href="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/taming-comment-trolls" rel="nofollow">http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/taming-comment-trolls</a> Damiana on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/3#post-10032 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:41:29 +0000 Damiana 10032@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ @gp responding to your off topic dreck is off topic? k.. \o/ Greatest Potential on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/3#post-10031 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:05:06 +0000 Greatest Potential 10031@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ Maintaining integrity in what you do is important. However, pretending you can play in the big leagues without ever being called a sellout out is unrealistic in this day and age and it has no bearing on those who are offering the sell out (without a hitch of course) without any regard for those who concern themselves with being a sell out and have attempted to convince others that they're satisfied with living in a hobo shack and don't mind having ketchup packet soup for breakfast. Greatest Potential on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/2#post-10030 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 10:34:54 +0000 Greatest Potential 10030@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ @Damiana Once again you're off topic *snarf* Damiana on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/2#post-10027 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:26:35 +0000 Damiana 10027@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ @gp <a href="http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e399/Damiana_Deux/Untitled-1.jpg">you</a> <a href="http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e399/Damiana_Deux/Untitled-2.jpg">seek</a> <a href="http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e399/Damiana_Deux/Untitled-3.jpg">anger</a> <a href="http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e399/Damiana_Deux/Untitled-4.jpg">management</a> *narf* Greatest Potential on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/2#post-9982 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:00:14 +0000 Greatest Potential 9982@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ @Damiana <blockquote>how can i respond to your attack when you constantly change it? say whatever, it's all tripe shite..</blockquote> <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> I'm not attacking you Damiana, perhaps you should seek anger management class because you seem to be angry with me and all I've done is commented here. I wasn't even responding to your comment I was responding to alax. ~peace&love~ Damiana on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/2#post-9980 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:50:22 +0000 Damiana 9980@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ @gp more real than you with the faux caduceus. my gravatar is backed by skill.. \o/ how can i respond to your attack when you constantly change it? say whatever, it's all tripe shite.. Greatest Potential on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/2#post-9979 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:43:39 +0000 Greatest Potential 9979@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ @Damiana you get real (& maybe for a change) i'm not the one with the pouting lips gravatar here James on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/2#post-9978 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:29:36 +0000 James 9978@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ Captain jack Money doesn't buy happiness... But it helps <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" /> Really, I find money does make me happy. I would rather be happy with my new phone than pissed off with one that was 10 years old. SELLOUT I have done it.. I used to look at the most popular list just to find videos to make... As usual with anything I make on youtube, it got me nowhere Damiana on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/2#post-9977 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:29:10 +0000 Damiana 9977@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ she saw a beautiful light in that man and it had nothing to do with money or financial security.. ? get real.. if he didn't have wealth and status, there's no fucking way she'd have married him. marrying for money is just another form of prostitution, no matter which gender does it.. Greatest Potential on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/2#post-9976 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:15:00 +0000 Greatest Potential 9976@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ Elisabetta Gregoraci obviously saw a beautiful light in that man and it had nothing to do with money or financial security. She's a sizzler. äläx -- in b/w coffee cup & ash tray on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/2#post-9975 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:23:58 +0000 äläx -- in b/w coffee cup & ash tray 9975@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ meet <a href="http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/fp/Flavio+Briatore+Out+St+Tropez+hTqLucQjZpol.jpg">flavio briatore</a> (59) and his partner, <a href="http://z.hubpages.com/u/177222_f260.jpg">elisabetta gregoraci</a> (29). do you think she would've <a href="http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/18/article-0-019C347300000578-688_468x348_popup.jpg">married</a> him if he was a regular dude, without his money? come on, man. money can buy lives, too. i'm thinking health care / treatments / hospital bills and such. Captain Jack on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/2#post-9974 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 05:52:48 +0000 Captain Jack 9974@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ Can money buy true everlasting happiness? How much money does one need in a life time? Greatest Potential on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/2#post-9921 Sat, 29 Aug 2009 22:03:39 +0000 Greatest Potential 9921@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ Money gets you the things that make life more enjoyable so I don't give a shit about this talk of selling out. If I don't want to hear anymore about that I will wear diamond bling ear plugs, wear synthetic fur, and toss gold coins at servants everywhere I go. Hs4Mm on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/2#post-9918 Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:10:44 +0000 Hs4Mm 9918@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ Do not know the full context, but this guy might be mistaken: <a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/blog/devil_ball_golf/post/Ryan-Moore-the-golfer-who-left-300-000-on-the-?urn=golf,185653">Ryan Moore, the golfer who left $300,000 on the table</a>. Here's what I mean: Personally, there are products (such as brands of cereals, coffee, basketball etc.) that I have been using for several years and would have no qualms about endorsing them for a fee (not that they would seek my endorsement!); likewise, if this guy has been using some brand of golf-equipment/-clothing and is happy with it, he need not feel guilty of advertising for them. Captain Jack on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/2#post-9913 Sat, 29 Aug 2009 19:39:59 +0000 Captain Jack 9913@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ Yes there are people in the world that are willing to sell their souls for millions. In time they may find them selfs truly empty inside. Anonymous on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/2#post-9867 Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:39:21 +0000 Anonymous 9867@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ Look at Cabtree of the 49ers..He wants so much. He is willing to sell his soul, and his whole career for a few dollars more..Shame. What is offered I have no idea, nor do I care. All teams go within restrictions so is he selling out to money and greed instead of having a career?? Get real, we are talking of millions of dollars here. Think about it. Captain Jack on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/2#post-9815 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:24:46 +0000 Captain Jack 9815@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ Hip hip hooray for the self employed! <img src="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/bb-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> preter-dexterity on "Being a "sellout"" http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/being-a-sellout/page/2#post-9798 Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:42:25 +0000 preter-dexterity 9798@http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/ Actually, with the Internet and the growth of access and sale opportunities including CD Baby, Amazon.com, MySpace, and hosts (no pun intended) of others, it's becoming a very conceivable idea for Musicians, Writers, Artists, Comedians, and Comely Philologists to make a handsome living without having to do much "selling out". After that, success only means alot of folks like what you're doing. Also, consider that by laying aside our creative egos and HELPING each other succeed, we help ourselves. Think of this, as well, every time someone who has the dreaded "day job" can trade up to making a living with his/her craft, not only does that 'free up' the day job for someone else, but future success may CREATE additional jobs AND opportunities. PD