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Being a "sellout"

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  • Started 8 months ago by HotForWords
  • Latest reply from Dalek
  1. Greatest Potential
    Member

    Maintaining integrity in what you do is important. However, pretending you can play in the big leagues without ever being called a sellout out is unrealistic in this day and age and it has no bearing on those who are offering the sell out (without a hitch of course) without any regard for those who concern themselves with being a sell out and have attempted to convince others that they're satisfied with living in a hobo shack and don't mind having ketchup packet soup for breakfast.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  2. Damiana
    Member

    @gp

    responding to your off topic dreck is off topic? k.. \o/

    Posted 6 months ago #
  3. Greatest Potential
    Member

    @Damiana

    Please. We are trying to maintain an open conversation here. This is not a \o/ or a \./. If you feel that you may be comment trolling seek assistance here

    http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/taming-comment-trolls

    Posted 6 months ago #
  4. Damiana
    Member

    @gp

    according to you, i can't join the conversation, disagree with you or reply to your attacks and/or comments w/o being a troll. that's bullshit. done talking now. >:|

    Posted 6 months ago #
  5. Greatest Potential
    Member

    @Damiana

    Thankfully, I don't make the rules here. Nor do I enforce. I merely try and provide helpful suggestions to improve communication.

    do have a nice day,
    gp

    Posted 6 months ago #
  6. Anonymous

    Selling out..You Tube partners are doing that as they hang together over a buck. What they want on youtube is not the way it should be.

    I see so many partners who hang together, it is simply amazing how pathetic these people are..

    When I look at the government, I see this same thing. If a person wants to quit, then why are the prices of those stop smoking aids continually rising?????? Just as soon as another tax hits tobacco, then so goes the price upward on stop smoking aids which is very wrong.

    What this is doing is insuring people do not stop smoking as they know if they fail in their effort to quit, as many have, then they must be more tobacco and what is taken away is food on the table, clothing, and many other items.

    And this recession has not hit those who have jobs, no, it has hit the poor..But does anyone care?? HELL NO.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  7. muggins
    Member

    @ star magic

    That cigarette addiction is a king hell bitch. I've seen
    the consequences of it in the hospitals. Lung destruction.
    Walking down the hallways with an oxygen bottle. If they
    raise the taxes on cigarettes, then some of that revenue
    ought to go towards making the patches less expensive.

    There may be some good news on the horizon as far as jobs go.
    The Democrats are coming to the realization that if they don't
    do something to create jobs, they stand to lose seats in the
    mid-term elections. I tried to raise the question about small
    biz with my representative, Zoe Lofgren during a telephone
    "town meeting", but I was pre-screen by her aids, and somehow
    time ran out before I was called on. Small business, which
    includes most of construction, manufacturing and services in
    the U.S., does most the of the hiring, yet they have been ignored
    in this downturn. Small business can't afford to donate to
    re-election campaign funds like the bigger corporations.
    Proposals being considered include giving small business a
    tax break for every person hired, and another is to have a
    payroll tax holiday.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  8. Anonymous

    muggins says...

    That cigarette addiction is a king hell bitch. I've seen
    the consequences of it in the hospitals. Lung destruction.
    Walking down the hallways with an oxygen bottle. If they
    raise the taxes on cigarettes, then some of that revenue
    ought to go towards making the patches less expensive.

    There may be some good news on the horizon as far as jobs go.

    You must be joking! Not one of the methods or aids have reduced in price!!!

    If you think the government gives a rats ass about people who do want to quit, you're in dreamland. Big business is only concerned about making money, just as many are as the partners run their games and try to squeeze out the little youtubers, and those who have something to say of substance!

    Now God forbid we should ever talk about how bad the economy is. The economy is total bullshit!

    The government has sold out to the rest of the world and their needs. While tons of us poor people are giving up daily, and have nothing to eat on this day, those fortunate are living high on turkey..What the hell is turkey?? I damn near forgot it has been that long, and I do have so fucking much more to say..

    I am tired of putting up with all this crap. Smokers have no rights left. This government does not care, just like every damn one of those partners selling out to products, and shitting on the little youtuber trying to get them all to watch their garbage, and forcing them to abide by the rules as the disregard them as you see by checking out the content on the length of these pathetic videos. What is called a ten minute limit for some, being those who are not partners, means nothing to those partners as they go over the limit time after time.

    Now then, let us see...Selling out...Hmmm, why is it those pathetic homo videos are never taken down yet the christian channels are? People sold out who own youtube, just like many of the rich people sell out period..Not one is worthy of the money they have in their pockets! Not one!

    Getting back to the economy...Is it any wonder when many jobs are so far away, out miles and miles the companies have sold out to have their business as the poor people who cannot afford a vehicle, those who cannot get any way to these places because of a lack of transportation and those who have been shafted by this insane government? People who have not been homeless, who have not gone without food for days at a time, and especially those who have not been in jail for a crime they did not do, will never understand..

    I tell you this, most people have sold out, because they cannot see the results. They are blind to what is going on. The result is most people do not care!

    Posted 3 months ago #
  9. muggins
    Member

    Funny. I was in agreement on your cigarette point, stating
    that "...revenues ought to go towards making the patches less
    expensive." But, you seem to find disagreement somewhere with
    that. Maybe it was that I didn't list all the methods used to
    help smokers quit.

    Nowhere did I say that govt. gave a rat's ass about the people.
    Our representatives are concerned with getting re-elected. They
    do a pretty good job of it, since the re-election percentage,
    if I recall, was near 90%.

    To the end of getting themselves re-elected, and also of maintaining
    their super majority in Congress, they are grudgingly considering
    throwing a bone to small business, so that small biz will start hiring
    again. Of all the problems we face, employment is at the top of the
    list. Democrats would rather not give out tax breaks to sm. biz,
    because it runs counter to the class warfare nonsense that is really
    the main thrust of the left. But govt. isn't going to create any real
    jobs, apart from more bureaucrats and jobs for police, firefighters
    and teachers, all of which are on the margins, and not going to put
    a dent in the millions of people out of work in the U.S..

    I understand why people are class conscious, as my family are all in
    that camp and I have to listen to it, but the fact is that class warfare
    comes back to sting the the very people it's supposed to help.
    If we want to help the needy, help the needy. If you attack
    corporations or small business owners, then you'd better understand
    that those of are people who hire. And I would be very careful making
    sweeping statements about employers, because in my experience, there
    have been many capable people in that group. There are things we could
    do better, and things that could be initiated, such as better food
    distribution to the hungry, unemployment benefits extension during
    this harsh downturn, and expanding employment development to include
    job listings nationwide for those who are willing to leave their
    depressed locales for locations where there are jobs.

    It's apples and oranges when comparing Christians and "Homos" as you
    put it. One is a religious group, another is a sexual orientation group.
    Using the term "Homo" is disrespectful and you shouldn't use the term.
    It's just as easy to show a modicum of respect, and it's free.
    I haven't been following who has been 86ed from uTube.

    People are imperfect and so are their institutions. The imprisoning of
    innocents will always happen. The duty of society is to minimize it.
    You don't know most people. It okay for you to have the opinion that
    most people don't care, but I think it's grossly untrue. In my
    experience, I've found that most people do care about others. The
    problem is that there are a myriad of problems in society and the
    individual is incapable in being involved in all problems.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  10. Anonymous

    I understand most of what you say..The rich get richer, and have less values and honesty than poor people for one, and when it comes to any aids to help a smoker quit, that was conveniently forgotten about by the masses, but yes, they say they care when in fact they have sold out to politics.

    Christians and homos... Now homos...I will call them anything I wish too. They are not,"gay". If that were true, then you would not see them bash others for their beliefs that homosexuality is wrong. The percentage of homos who commit suicide is the largest group of individuals, therefor the myth of them being gay is not acceptable. Perhaps the term faggot is best since they choose to call those who believe differently bigots. I find nothing wrong with those words. Those who take offense to them, that is their problem, much like those who find the word,"fuck" to be unacceptable.

    And now a word from our sponsor...I love making videos, I really do..I come to this apple store because I just like apple stores, and I do not endorse going to apple stores and buy apple products..Thanks for watching my video I made at apple which is located at bla bla bla..

    Ya know my favorite saying,I made this video just for you!What a crock of shit!

    Ya know, I think I want to be a partner so I can just sell condoms...Ya, that works....

    Posted 3 months ago #
  11. muggins
    Member

  12. Anonymous

    That was a different time. People are far different to smokers these days. They are in fact, rude, and very self centered and it was not that way 20 years ago either..

    I can say the same thing about people who drive. Now they are quite frankly pathetic with the way they do drive and treat pedestrians. They have sold their souls for their transportation, and they must be, "king of the road". I understand this is going on in every country as well..Very sad a possession is worth more than respect of others on the road, and lives...Road rage is all around today, as most drivers gave their souls and sold out to the power of transportation..Self centered behavior is at an all time high.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  13. Captain Jack
    Moderator

    I see there is a fine line from being a sell out and making a living. I guess it's a matter of perception. If one is promoting products they believe in, what is wrong with that? Though, if there is someone who doesn't believe in the product your promoting then you appear to that person as a Sell Out.

    I know people hate commercials. They are annoying. Well the bad ones. The good ones are ok. The good ones never really get notice much, but the annoying ones are talked about much. Hence our reactions to bad commercials works against us.

    I can say I've sold myself out for many years. I worked in marketing and sales. It takes a few years, but in time it starts to eat at you. I feel really bad about products I promoted that later proved to be harmful to their bodies or a over valued.

    For example, people are not very healthy when consuming fast food. Yet I worked my share of fast food restaurants. I help contribute to their illness. Even death....
    I sold products that where designed to fail in 6 months in order to convince people to buy and extended warranty. This was not my choice but ordered to. This is just a tiny sample of some things I've done that I'm not proud of.

    I took a good bite of the RED pill and got out of that industry. Why? To save my soul from anymore destruction. Now that I skipper boats and teach, I feel much better.

    Anyone have similar stories about selling out and how that's effected you?

    cj

    Posted 3 months ago #
  14. Dalek
    Member

    “It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.”
    ~Winston Churchill~

    Posted 3 months ago #

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