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CampKohler - Sacramento CA
MemberPosted 11 months ago # -
CampKohler - Sacramento CA
MemberForum HTML
The visual tag buttons at the top of the dialog box do not produce standard HTML tags. They are tags custom to BBPress. Instead of normal angle brackets the tags are formed from square brackets. All tags are formed at the current location of the cursor, except those marked "Forms at begining of text", which tags are inserted at the beginning of the msg and must be moved to where the author needs them to be.
These examples have a space inserted in them so that they will be visible instead of executing. In order from the left, the tags produced by the buttons are:
[ b][ /b]
[ i][ /i]
[ u][ /u]
[ s][ /s]
[ url=http://][ /url] (Forms at beginning of text.)
[ quote][ /quote]
[ img]http://[ /img] (Forms at beginning of text.)
[ list][ /list]
[ list=1][ /list]
[ *][ /*]
[ center][ /center]
[ code][ /code]The close button supplies any closing tag not yet obtained by clicking a tag button.
The manually-typed HTML tags permitted, which are listed below the dialog box, are, left to right:
< bbcode>< /bbcode>
This is bbcode text.
< blockquote> < /blockquote>This is blockquoted text.
< code> < /code> (No example available yet)
< em> < /em> This is emphasis text.
< strong> < /strong> This is strong text.
< strike> < /strike>This is strike text.
< center> < /center>This is centered text.
< u> < /u> This is underlined text. (This tag is deprecated [obsolete]. Users will think it is a link, so don't use it.)
< hr> (Horizontal rule is shown immediately below.)
I can't get the code text to work yet.
This is code text.Posted 11 months ago # -
CampKohler - Sacramento CA
MemberThe preceding msg is incomplete and I will have to repost it later. Too bad that there is no way to delete it after the edit timer expires. I did learn that:
The edit timer is one hour in the forum. If you are working on a message that requires testing. It is best to open two appearances of the forum, one in the sandbox to test and one wherever you wish to publish your results. If you need to do more than one hour of testing, copy all before the hour is up (pasting it into an outside editor to save it if necessary), replace the text msg with a period (the final edit) and then start a new msg and paste it back in again for another hour's work.
Whether or not a msg has a reply does not effect the timer.
Posted 11 months ago # -
Greatest Potential
MemberAh, so those are the url tags: [ url=http://][ /url] (Forms at beginning of text.)
I was looking for those
Posted 11 months ago # -
Greatest Potential
MemberHere, let me test those quote tags
I'am not an animal!
Posted 11 months ago # -
Greatest Potential
MemberSome examples of underlined text & bold: Must you always place emphasis on everything? Hell yes!
Posted 11 months ago # -
Greatest Potential
MemberI better test that url tag too:
http://www.wikihow.com/Fly-a-Kite -Posted 11 months ago # -
popzzz
Member
Hmmmmmmmm .....Posted 11 months ago # -
Greatest Potential
Memberhow do you do the picture thingies? gifs?
Posted 11 months ago # -
Greatest Potential
Memberpicture thingie test:
Posted 11 months ago # -
CampKohler - Sacramento CA
MemberI prevail on youse guys to practice in the sandbox, else this topic will grow to the size of Ethiopia and make it hard to find anything. Don't forget, you have an hour-long edit window, so you can play with a lot of things by simply editing the last sandbox post over and over; you don't have to create a new post for each test.
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LINKING TO PLACES IN THE FORUM
In this msg, a space is inserted in each link that is to display and not execute so that you can see it. The space should be omitted when constructing links. Manual tags are shown (as seen below the dialog box), but the tag buttons above the box may be used, of course.
TOPICS
To link to a specific topic, it's: "< a href="http://www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/[modified topic name here] >[Displayed text here]< /a>", where the modified topic name consists of all the words in the name separated by hyphens, e.g. "A wonder discussion" = "a-wonderful-discussion" and "I hate punctuation (especially the [square brackets])' = "i-hate-punctuation-especially-the-square-brackets". Notice that no punctuation marks appearing in the title appear in the modified title. Hovering over any topic title in the Latest Discussions list(s) will reveal the modified topic title at the bottom of your browser window.
MESSAGES
To link to a specific post in a topic, it's "< href="www.hotforwords.com/forums/topic/[modified topic title here]#post-[message number here]>[Displayed text here]< /a]". Thr URL, including msg number, can be seen at the bottom of your browser window by hovering over the number sign (#) that appears at the bottom of each msg following the days-ago number.
Under certain circumstances where a msg is not formed (hacking?) and so the number sign is not visible, like this one, you must use View Source (Windows: right-click on the page for the Context menu and choose View Source) to see the topic's HTML and search [use Ctrl-F] for the msg (or an adjaent one) and it's number.
DISPLAYED TEXT
If you think the current method of showing link text — a slightly different color — is not satisfactory and wish to underline it as is normally done, enclose the link text in U tags, e.g. < u>Link text here< /u>.
Posted 11 months ago # -
popzzz
MemberHmmmmmmmm .....
I'm not so sure that you are helping anything and not just adding to the clutter in the forums.
All this has already been covered elsewhere .....
Posted 11 months ago # -
CampKohler - Sacramento CA
MemberIf you have some information to contribute, such as where something is covered, please feel free to do so. As you did not and I can't read minds, I had to research it myself. Then I published it so others would know. Sorry, if it offended your sensibilities.
Posted 11 months ago # -
Captain Jack
MemberCampKohler, Why is this important?
Posted 11 months ago # -
CampKohler - Sacramento CA
MemberLinked from Ponzi-scheme comments in response to ChaCha's concern and M's reply on HFW links: (blanks inserted)
ChaCha writes < a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpHWr7GgzMg">(sorry ! sorry ! sorry !)< /a>
Then WP records that as < a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpHWr7GgzMg" rel="nofollow" class="extlink" target="_blank">(sorry ! sorry ! sorry !)< /a>
I don't know why ChaCha thought the link was inop; it works. I suppose M saw all the extra stuff that WP added and thought he wasn't doing it correctly. The added stuff is:
rel="nofollow" - Tells search engines "don't go there," so as not to increase the target's ratings in those search engines. In all fairness, if we are using someone's page for the entertainment value, I don't see why they should not get credit for the use if there is credit to be had. (I don't remember seeing this attribute before the revision. Is it recent?)
class="extlink" - Defines the link as being one that will go outside of HFW, and what WP will do with that information I don't know.
target="_blank" - Tells the browser to open the new site in a new browser window.
WP will add the above three attributes automatically, so if you are looking at the HTML for your link to see what you did, that is why it is not exactly what you typed.
Posted 11 months ago # -
CampKohler - Sacramento CA
MemberCJ: Who said it was important?
- Does it have to be important?
- If it has to be important, how important does it have to be?
- Does it have to be more important than saying, "Hi, Marina?"
- How is importance to be measured and expressed?
- Who is to measure the importance?
- Are we to submit requests for importance analysis and measurement?
- To whom are these requests to be submitted?
- Are forms available for submissions?
- Where may the forms be obtained?
- Has the correct use of the forms been documented?
- Has the correct use of the forms been published?
- Where may the instructions for the forms be obtained?
- How long will it take to process the forms and evaluate the text?
- If it takes more than an hour to receive the importance, will it be too late to do anything about it (edit window timer)?
- If it is too late, then assume the importance is OK.
Posted 11 months ago # -
CampKohler - Sacramento CA
Member.
Posted 10 months ago # -
Me Lika Do The Cha Cha
MemberI get it. Those were old bugs from the initial setup.
@CK - thanks for the helpful tidbits
Posted 10 months ago # -
Greatest Potential
Member><
Posted 10 months ago # -
Che Rambler
MemberMarina do you own the servers/hard drive that all this info is stored or are you renting server space from a large company?
Posted 9 months ago # -
CampKohler - Sacramento CA
MemberTransferred from John's Blitz lesson comment. (Underlines inserted in entities to prevent execution; they are deleted in actual use.)
The standard IBM PC keyboard provides the APL quote, which is represented in HTML by entity &_#34; (appearing as "). There also exists the curly (left and right) quotes one sees in the print media, namely &_#8220 and &_#8221;, appearing as “ and ”, respectively.
Of these three, you are using the last one, but your keyboard should be generating only the first one. I am very interested exactly which keystrokes you are using to get your quote marks. Ditto Capman.
Posted 9 months ago # -
CampKohler - Sacramento CA
MemberChe Volet: HFW is hosted by an outfit in Florida, so I doubt that she bought a box* and shipped it there. Probably HFW is just a slice of time on one machine, with all the other slices being other sites they are hosting on the same machine.
If you obtain a DOS prompt (for Windows XP:
Start | All Programs | Accessories | Command Prompt), typetracert hotforwords.com [Enter], you will see your tickle flying across the country and winding up at something called HOSTDIME. Now Google them and you will see what's what. I suspect that the guy M used to design HFW hooked her up with them. If not him, whoever her ghost Webmaster is did.BTW, notice that the end of the tracert says
quad.hotforwords.com. Does that mean that there are four sites on the server HFW is assigned to? I would like to know if my guess is right, but M (or somebody advising her) is unlikely to reveal.**--- ---
*If M did provide the hardware, imagine the problems of getting the host staff to be familiar with it well enough to do repairs, have the correct parts on hand and so forth. It would be a logistical nightmare if every Tom, Dick and Harry customer had it's own unique hardware. No, they probably have standardized, very compact servers that can be swapped out logically (vs. physically). The bigger the hosting outfit, the more likely this is to be so. This is not to say that you can't do it; you can get anything you want if you are willing to pay, but it would be prohibitively costly and the reliability would not be as great.**He/she has this "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" mentality, which IMHO, is silly. We can't all be Webmasters and networking gurus, so I think it quite obvious that M has "people." I can't imagine what the advantage would be in not having users correspond directly with a Webmaster or other staff. Maybe when M writes her memoirs someday, she will tell us why she thought the secrecy to be necessary. {CK reads the answer on his deathbed and, with his last breath, croaks out "Yesss! I knew it! Gaaaack!}
Posted 9 months ago # -
CampKohler - Sacramento CA
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Posted 9 months ago # -
leonard
MemberGood job CampKohler-Sacramento CA: "I have got to let my clay dry into sand; box of grains for me" Thanks for this help and peace out TOO......
Posted 7 months ago # -
Greatest Potential
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