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Started 9 months ago by HotForWords
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HotForWords
Key Master

I noticed some people complaining that it's hard for them to know when I have posted a new video. In the past they would go to http://www.youtube.com and I would show up right away, now I don't.

Are my videos not showing up?

Or, could it be that they are subscribed to way more people now and I am getting lost in the shuffle?

So we need to establish if there is really a problem here -
did something change on that subscription notification box?
or do you all have a lot more subscription and I am getting pushed off the subscription box before you have a chance to see me?

Also... if it's NOT a glitch, how do I overcome this issue? Should I upload a video at around the same time each day?

Let's figure this thing out here. Technical problems? Or getting lost in the shuffle? And how do we fix this?

Posted 9 months ago #
Hs4Mm
Member

YouTube allows grouping users into a user list; so you could send out a YouTube-Message-based notification to the group of all subscribers ... but would this be considered spam? Perhaps not since the group would consist of those who subscribed and asked for notification. But some might complain about extra notification.

Posted 9 months ago #
Che Rambler
Member

I went to my original YT channel and the last three videos where there when I clicked on the show all. This latest one 'Sergeant' was in the home page subscription box.
I have few subscriptions on this channel.
So what I will do is monitor and compare activity between the two as you upload new videos. This may tell us something.

Posted 9 months ago #
HotForWords
Key Master

I am mostly interested in my video appearing in the MAIN box when you log into YouTube. But this has to happen PRIOR to your watching the video ON YOUTUBE. Once you watch it, it goes away from that Homepage Subscription box, but remains in the View All area.

Posted 9 months ago #
leonard
Member

Work will set me free...this is fun..thanks Marina*****

Posted 9 months ago #
leonard
Member

This was what it was that showed up today..smelLa,lol

Posted 9 months ago #
Che Rambler
Member

@Marina well then, when I just looked at the view all for the subscription box the only video of yours was 'Love Hurts' no 'Sergeant' video.
This means the 'Sergeant' video never appeared in my Homepage Subscription box.
If I click on 'hotforwords' from the subscription list the 'Sergeant' video is in it's proper place.

Posted 9 months ago #
diemorder
Member

I always see your latest vid in the Subscription box.I have Subscriptions to sixteen users in all and you are the seventh person i've subcribed.
hope that help.

Posted 9 months ago #
Me Lika Do The Cha Cha
Member

I have had no problems with my subscriptions. The big dilemna I am having with Youtube is examplified by their promoting such videos as "Man Eats 22 Live Scorpions", "A Close Shave: Sheep Rescue" and other truly retarded pieces of shit! My solution is to ignore all the pap and dog vomit they push in my face and to only seek out those videos and topics of interest to me.

Posted 9 months ago #
Hs4Mm
Member

The following is just my understanding of how YouTube works; please let me know of any errors/omissions:

On the page youtube:

1) If one has set up one's preferences to show a box called "Subscriptions", then there will be such a box.

1.1) This box has an edit button -- one can select or un-select "Exclude videos I've already watched"

1.2) This box has a clickable "(view all)" button. Clicking this view-all takes one to the page my_subscriptions

On the my_subscriptions page:

2) The "Subscription" item will have a few sub-items, starting with "New Videos" and going on to your acutal subscriptions such as hotforwords.

2.1) Entries in the sub-item "New Videos" will be removed if the video is viewed by double clicking from HFW site. BUT: If you go to Marinas site (hotforwords) and watch the video from there or if you click on the video there and go to its page and watch it and rate it -- the video will NOT be removed from the "New Videos" list! Weird!!

2.2) Entries in the sub-item "hotforwords" will remain.

3) A few things have to be done to get email notifications via YouTube. The page involved is: email

3.1) Email address needs to be correct

3.2) "How Often YouTube Can Email Me" must be set properly.

3.3) Subscription & YouTube Updates must be set correctly including sub-sub-item "Show Subscriptions"

Posted 9 months ago #
Hs4Mm
Member

I have never received any email notification even though I set up my email notifications as shown here I know my email address is correct since I have received YouTube messages directly sent by other users.

Posted 9 months ago #
logischabbaubar
Member

Marina, I've created a new Youtube account today (for several reasons). Then I watched one of your older videos via a link to Youtube on a 3rd-party-side and subscribed your channel on that older video's page. When I went to Youtube's main page, your "Sergeant"-video, and only that video, was offered to me on top of the page in the "Subscriptions"-box. I've cleared cache and cookies before I created the new Youtube-account so Google could not verify that I've seen the "Sergeant"-video on http://www.hotforwords.com before.

Your "Sergeant"-video now appears on pos. 47 of the most watched videos.

When someone is watching one of your videos on http://www.hotforwords.com, Google/Youtube set - in response to the query for that video - some cookies on your website's visitor's computer. Here is a sample http-header returned by google:

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:02:03 GMT
Server: Apache
X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff
Set-Cookie: use_hitbox=72c46ff6cbcdb7c5585c36411b6b334edAEAAAAw; path=/; domain
=.youtube.com
Set-Cookie: VISITOR_INFO1_LIVE=Y4YTTCe-JUY; path=/; domain=.youtube.com; expire
s=Thu, 15-Oct-2009 16:02:03 GMT
Set-Cookie: PREF=f1=50000000; path=/; domain=.youtube.com; expires=Fri, 15-Feb-
2019 16:02:03 GMT
Set-Cookie: GEO=9c1fe73ad6b36bf2697e991acc9698c3cwwAAAAyREXVJ8R4AHvfmkk=; path=
/; domain=.youtube.com; expires=Thu, 19-Feb-2009 16:02:03 GMT
Set-Cookie: watched_video_id_list=4cd761876fd012db7044a8bf54a65573WwEAAABzCwAAA
DZieXFOM3JpSlhF; path=/; domain=.youtube.com
Expires: Tue, 27 Apr 1971 19:44:06 EST
Cache-Control: no-cache
Content-Length: 154709
Keep-Alive: timeout=300
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

These three cookies are also set when someone is accessing the youtube-website directly.

Whenever I am accessing Youtube after having cleared my cookies, I am asked for my international preferences. I am not asked again until I clear all Youtube-cookies. Thus, these cookies are obviously used to reidentify previous Youtube-visitors and restore some of their user-preferences, even if these visitors don't use a Youtube-account.

Google has heavily invested in user-tracking techniques, and these techniques are in use on Youtube. Youtube gives every user a unique ID, stores what this user is watching under this ID and determines what videos to offer to that user upon what that user has watched before.

I wouldn't be surprised if Youtube would use this technique to identify that someone who is just logging in has seen the "Seargeant"-video before on your website so that Youtube doesn't have to offer it again in the "Subscriptions"-box. I must have a reason why Youtube sets a cookie named "watched_video_id_list".

But I'm not a Google insider and not even a cookie expert, I can only guess.

Posted 9 months ago #
Moose and Squirrel
Member

I like the idea of you uploading a video at a certain time each day or every other day which depends on you on the day thing. Then it would give us and idea of when the new video is coming out. As of right now I don't know what to watch for to view a new video. I have to keep looking in the Recent Posts to see what is new or old. That may be why some member are not commenting or showing up late when the video has run for a day because of not knowing when they are posted.
Your videos are showing up in my new video section on my YT page and yes they disappear after I watch them on YT. I know you want to be on the popular page, but we can still follow you on the most viewed and know when you are going to upload when you reach number 24.

Posted 9 months ago #
Capman911
Member

Sorry Marina that Sad Sack comment was suppose to be Capmans. I was logged in as Sad Sack to see if your videos showed up on my new video page in YT.

Posted 9 months ago #
HotForWords
Key Master

logischabbaubar, so you are saying that if you watch the video on my website, a cookie is set that says that you have watched the video and perhaps that's why it doesn't show up on YouTube? Can you test that? I will be uploading a video shortly.. can you watch it on my website first then go to YouTube and see if it exists in the subscription box on the homepage?

Posted 9 months ago #
maxpappy
Member

Marina: I can confirm that. If I view your video on your website, YouTube then knows I have seen it, and it won't appear in the new video section.

Posted 9 months ago #
bsomebody
Member

On my YT channel, I have subscritpitons showing. As far as I can remember, I have never seen new vids posted there. I do get an e-mail from YT, about every week, listing my subs new vids for the last week. Lady M has about five or six vids listed in this e-mail. I do not ever remember any type of notification for a single video. It is different with mijj's vids. I get his one at a time, but I think he sends those to me personally, plus the YT notifications. Like I said, I catch the Lady's vids straight from the HFW site, so maybe that is why I never see them in YT, but I only get updates for James at the same time I get Lady M's, about once per week.

Posted 9 months ago #
logischabbaubar
Member

Marina, I will definitely test that and post my results here. But please keep in mind that I've only made a guess why some of your viewers couldn't find a brandnew video in their "Subscription" box. I don't know accurately what information Youtube/Google is storing, I only know that they must store something.

There are other possible reasons why couldn't find your new videos in their "Subscription"-box. Google's technicians are currently making modifications on Youtube. That's another possible explanation why things aren't working as they should.

Posted 9 months ago #
maxpappy
Member

Marina, just as an experiment, I just kept reloading Youtube until you posted your video, instead of looking on hotforwords.com, as I usually do. Sure enough, your video showed up. So I believe that if you see it here on H4W, then it gets cookied and wont show up on YT. Hope this helps

Posted 9 months ago #
leonard
Member

Marina: I got to rate the new video"several" twice, I think because I had to do that comment test thing and so, since I could not remember whats that exceeding comments thing is..I went back...and got to rate it gain...usually, it is always that I had rated it already...3 - 5 stars rated thus...your student, leonard

Posted 9 months ago #
bsomebody
Member

http://i43.tinypic.com/vym68o.jpg
my current YT home page

Posted 9 months ago #
bsomebody
Member

That's HUGE! sry

Posted 9 months ago #
HotForWords
Key Master

bsomebody... do me a favor and watch Porkie on YouTube, then go back to that New Videos page and see if Porkie does not show anymore.

Posted 9 months ago #
HotForWords
Key Master

I tested it.. new videos only shows what you haven't watched yet.

Posted 9 months ago #
Moose and Squirrel
Member

I went to YT and your new video showed up. I watch it as Capman911 on YT and the video went away on the new video page. I switched over to Sad Sack and the new video page showed your new video. I watched it from HotForWords web site and went back and checked the new video page and the video was gone. So the vidoes seem to disappear whether you watch from YT or from your home site.

http://i42.tinypic.com/fe05fk.jpg

Posted 9 months ago #
bsomebody
Member

@Marina, Yep, I guess that's it. I watched Porkie, and now it is gone from that page.

Posted 9 months ago #
amnoaweegie
Member

Marina, I know I've missed most of this so far but I'm having a slightly different problem. I can't view new videos on hotforwords.com!!! By default it is the HD version and when I click play I get a message saying the video is no longer available. I change to normal resolution and I get to watch it.

Is there a bigger problem with YouTube?

UPDATE: The last entry from you in my subscriptions in YouTube is the last word game (4 reproductive purposes). What are they playing at? Should we all complain to them or what?

Posted 9 months ago #
James
Member

If people have watched a new video on here already then why are they complaining it isnt in the subscription box? If you have seen it here then what the big deal?

Posted 9 months ago #
bsomebody
Member

@James, We are confused. We just want to be sure that Lady M's vids are properly sent to all the subscribers. I had assumed that since I was not getting naughtified, then no one else was, either. Now, I must check to see if that notification arrives BEFORE I watch the vid. We want to ensure that the Lady gets all the views that she deserves.

Posted 9 months ago #
logischabbaubar
Member

Marina, as I've promised, I've tried to verify my theory, and here are the results:

Around 8pm local time, I watched your "several" video on http://www.hotforwords.com, with Mozilla Firefox. I left Firefox open.

Then, I opened "http://www.youtube.com" with an alternative browser that stores cookies etc. in a location that Firefox can't read. I was asked for my international preferences, and I chose German, then logged in with my old account. Your "Several" video was offered me in the "Subscriptions" box, but it didn't have a preview pic.
Screenshot: http://i41.tinypic.com/v8ijnr.jpg

Then, I deliberately waited for about half an hour. I opened the Firefox windows, opened "http://www.youtube.com/?gl=DE&hl=de" in a new tab. Youtube offered me to watch your "Several" video in my "Subscriptions"-box.
Screenshot: http://i39.tinypic.com/15d0spy.png

Therefore, I cannot verify that Google is going that far in user tracking as I suggested. I cannot verify the problems that some other students reported that your new videos aren't offered in the "Subscriptions"-box shown on Youtube's main site either.

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